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Test Shows Sticky Porridge Used To Cement Ancient Chinese Wall
China View/Xinhuanet ^ | 2-27-2005 | China View

Posted on 02/27/2005 10:59:51 AM PST by blam

Test shows sticky porridge used to cement ancient Chinese wall

www.chinaview.cn 2005-02-27 20:56:07

XI'AN, Feb. 27 (Xinhuanet)-- The legend that ancient Chinese craftsmen used glutinous rice porridge in the mortar while building ramparts has been verified by archaeological research in northwest China's Shaanxi Province.

In a recent maintenance to the ancient city wall of Xi'an, the provincial capital, workers discovered that the plaster remnants on the ancient bricks were quite hard to remove, said Qin Jianming,a researcher with the Xi'an Preservation and Restoration Center ofCultural Relics.

A chemical test showed that the mortar reacted the same as glutinous rice to the reagent. And infrared spectral analysis alsoshowed that the mortar displayed similar molecule structure to glutinous rice.

"Thus we can conclude that the sticky material was in the mortar," Qin said.

The use of this sticky material, Qin said, helps explain why many ancient Chinese brick structures are still standing.

The walls of Xi'an, the capital of China during several kingdoms and dynasties, were built in the early years of the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644). The construction was based on wall relics of the Sui and Tang dynasties (581-907).

The 13.74-kilometer, 12-meter high ancient wall, which still encircles central Xi'an, is well preserved today.

It is said that ancient construction workers used glutinous rice porridge when building the Great Wall more than 2,000 years ago.

Qin said that the new finding is useful in further study of ancient Chinese brick constructions. Enditem


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To: exnavychick

Maybe it serves the same purpose as the adhesion additives that are sometimes added to mortar and concrete mixtures here in the states. I don't know the exact formulation, but it looks and smells exactly like plain old Elmer's white glue. The additive, the instructions say, helps the mortar or cement stick to existing masonry work. I suppose it seeps into microscopic voids in the surfaces of existing masonry planes and creates a mechanical bond. In the old days, bricklayers and cement workers would mix a thin concoction of cement and water and paint it into crevices and pockets of existing structures before troweling in the concrete or mortar as the project dictated. That would be my guess.


21 posted on 02/27/2005 12:34:04 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Equally offending all people equally - pursuant to the directives of the CRA of 1964)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Sounds like a good guess to me, lol!


22 posted on 02/27/2005 12:35:11 PM PST by exnavychick
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To: exnavychick

Here's something in a similar grain derived application:

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23 posted on 02/27/2005 12:41:58 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Equally offending all people equally - pursuant to the directives of the CRA of 1964)
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To: blam

The lowest bidder strikes again!


24 posted on 02/27/2005 1:18:00 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Hmmm...wonder if would work on the stuff my boys are always breaking around the house, lol!

Thanks for sharing. :)


25 posted on 02/27/2005 1:29:50 PM PST by exnavychick
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
Thanks Blam! I guess the porridge was "just right".
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26 posted on 02/27/2005 3:55:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, February 20, 2005.)
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To: WestTexasWend

I have never seen rice paste. Where did you get it? What can you use it for?


27 posted on 02/27/2005 10:05:06 PM PST by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: blam

Wonder how it would work on roads. Something has to be better than the stuff they use now. In Wisconsin the roads are often a mess from buckling during weather changes and lots of pot holes that they are always having to fill in. Much of the time a road will go for years before it is repaired when it needs it. I think it might be a rip off scheme from the construction companies to keep them in constant work while they suck up our tax dollars. Sometimes the lowest bid is not the best idea if it means inferior product is used.


28 posted on 02/27/2005 10:13:53 PM PST by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: Bellflower

You put salt on the roads there don't you? I would suspect it's the salt.


29 posted on 02/27/2005 10:18:27 PM PST by blam
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To: Bellflower

I use mine for crafts...but rice paste & tissue paper are also great for mending books and documents because it's invisible when dry but very strong. Curators use it.

I ordered mine (Nori) from Lee Valley Tools, a woodworkers specialty catalog, but many craft stores and most art supply houses carry it.

It's supposed to be really easy to make, too... if you do a search for rice paste you'll find recipes online.


30 posted on 02/28/2005 5:34:35 AM PST by WestTexasWend
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To: blam
I read elsewhere that the Romans also used "glutin" in their masonry.. except theirs was wheat..

Rice paste glue has numerous uses.. here's a weird one..
Japanese "ninja" would prepare smoke and dust "bombs" by filling eggs with their various powder concoctions..
The hole in the eggs would then be covered with rice paper dipped in rice paste, which would be just as durable as the egg shell itself..
I have also read of rice paste being used in japanese woodworks, such as cabinet work and furniture joints..

31 posted on 02/28/2005 6:30:12 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: blam
"Spot on The Wall," by Hooflung Porridge? Hmmm. Are they sure that's porridge?
32 posted on 02/28/2005 6:39:56 AM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: blam

Let me guess, they used Fruitcake for the blocks...


33 posted on 02/28/2005 6:40:54 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
"Let me guess, they used Fruitcake for the blocks..."

LOL. If so, that wall's NEVER comin' down. Maybe NASA should check into fruitcake applications...like using slices of it for heat tile replacements on The Shuttle or something.

34 posted on 02/28/2005 4:42:03 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: blam

Bump.


35 posted on 02/28/2005 4:57:25 PM PST by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: WestTexasWend

WestTexasWend, do you know if rice paste is H2O proof?


36 posted on 02/28/2005 11:04:33 PM PST by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: blam

The salt doesn't help but the drastic changes in weather really reek havoc on the roads. They expand and contract and break up. The sidewalks fare better than the roads as they have made into them that take up some of the pressure by building them with the separating cracks in them. After big weather changes many roads have problems and they have to go around with tar and fill in the cracks and pot holes in the next day or so. You have to pay close attention when you drive if you don't want to damage your car. I think it is a matter of bad material too.


37 posted on 02/28/2005 11:13:06 PM PST by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: Bellflower

I don't believe it's waterproof...I'll try to check into that.


38 posted on 03/01/2005 5:01:27 AM PST by WestTexasWend
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39 posted on 04/11/2006 1:03:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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