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Science To Test (Jason) Argonaut Myth
Kathimerini ^ | 2-9-2005

Posted on 02/09/2005 11:40:18 AM PST by blam

Science to test Argonaut myth

Gold jewelry found last year in an unplundered Mycenaean royal tomb on the outskirts of Volos will be tested for links with one of the most enduring ancient Greek myths, the Argonauts’ expedition, an archaeologist said yesterday.

The 14th century BC treasure — gold beads from necklaces and jewelry made of gold and semiprecious stones — was found with vases and other offerings in four pits inside the tholos tomb, a beehive-like subterranean structure usually associated with Late Bronze Age royal burials.

According to local antiquities director Vassiliki Adrimi-Sismani, the Culture Ministry has approved tests, to be conducted by June with Louvre Museum experts, to determine the gold’s provenance. “We want to investigate to what extent our area had contacts with the Black Sea, that is to what extent the myth of the Argonauts and the Golden Fleece has to do with the gold we found,” she said. The myth tells how King Jason of Iolkos, near Volos, led an expedition to Colchis, in modern Georgia, to steal a golden ram’s skin. This may allude to trade deals with the gold-rich region.


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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
Thanks Blam.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

21 posted on 02/09/2005 11:01:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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To: blam; Berosus
Regarding all the respondents who speak of the use of a woolen hide to capture the grains -- after it was used for that purpose -- so the story goes -- the hides were burned, which made it possible to collect the gold bits, and also landed all the miners in hot water with PETA.
Histories, book II: Euterpe
by Herodotus
translation by George Rawlinson
transcription by Daniel C. Stevenson
There can be no doubt that the Colchians are an Egyptian race... I made inquiries on the subject both in Colchis and in Egypt, and I found that the Colchians had a more distinct recollection of the Egyptians, than the Egyptians had of them. Still the Egyptians said that they believed the Colchians to be descended from the army of Sesostris. My own conjectures were founded, first, on the fact that they are black-skinned and have woolly hair, which certainly amounts to but little, since several other nations are so too; but further and more especially, on the circumstance that the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians, are the only nations who have practised circumcision from the earliest times... the Syrians who dwell about the rivers Thermodon and Parthenius, as well as their neighbours the Macronians, say that they have recently adopted it from the Colchians... I will add a further proof to the identity of the Egyptians and the Colchians. These two nations weave their linen in exactly the same way, and this is a way entirely unknown to the rest of the world; they also in their whole mode of life and in their language resemble one another. The Colchian linen is called by the Greeks Sardinian, while that which comes from Egypt is known as Egyptian.

22 posted on 02/09/2005 11:06:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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To: SunkenCiv; Darksheare; Darkchylde; tiamat
Cool--wonder if they'll get the same results as Ray Harryhausen when they sow the teeth of Cadmus! :-)

Jason and the Argonauts (1963)


23 posted on 02/10/2005 10:21:52 AM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

At his age, I think Cadmus probably soaks his teeth in a glass every night.


24 posted on 02/10/2005 10:23:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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To: Fedora

LOL!


25 posted on 02/10/2005 10:27:47 AM PST by Darksheare (Red Sun rising, Drown without inhaling. Within, the dark holds hard. Higher than hope my cure lies.)
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To: SunkenCiv

ROFL!


26 posted on 02/10/2005 10:42:09 AM PST by Fedora
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To: blam

The Golden Fleece is what Congress gives the taxpayers.


27 posted on 02/10/2005 2:37:28 PM PST by -=Wing_0_Walker=-
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To: Fedora

Cool!

Bronze-Age jewelry ping!

Thanks!

:-)


28 posted on 02/10/2005 2:55:59 PM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: blanknoone
"With a vigorous shaking you could undoubtably shake it free."

I don't think anyone here has ever sheared a sheep.

I can't imagine anything short of cannon balls falling out of that mat!

29 posted on 02/10/2005 3:01:08 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: Jeremiah Jr; Quix

Ping.


30 posted on 02/10/2005 4:05:04 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: tiamat

Golden Fleece jewelry, LOL!


31 posted on 02/10/2005 4:19:03 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

I'm about to ping you to a thread.

I feel as if I need Rocky and Bullwinkle.

Come on over and you'll see why


32 posted on 02/10/2005 4:22:48 PM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: Fedora

That was a pretty good movie. The girl who played Medea was pretty and she had that "witch" look too.


33 posted on 02/10/2005 4:27:11 PM PST by yarddog
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To: tiamat

Moose and squirrel again, eh? Ees always moose and squirrel. . .


34 posted on 02/10/2005 4:32:41 PM PST by Fedora
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To: yarddog
Yes, it was pretty good. I think when TCM ran a Ray Harryhausen fest recently they said he considered it his best film (though I kind of like a couple of the Sinbad ones he did myself). Besides Medea, Honor Blackman from Goldfinger was also in there.
35 posted on 02/10/2005 4:36:54 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

I had forgotten that. She played one of the Goddesses, can't remember if that was before or after "Pussy Galore".


36 posted on 02/10/2005 5:12:32 PM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog
It was just before: Argonauts was '63; Goldfinger was '64. The reason I thought of it was because I just saw her in a rerun of Columbo that was on the other day as well, LOL!
37 posted on 02/10/2005 5:19:49 PM PST by Fedora
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To: blam

I think it was the Scythians who had a unique method of recovering placer gold. Instead of panning, they would lay a sheep skin on the gravel bed of a stream. The gold would collect in the fleece – hence the “Golden Fleece”.


38 posted on 02/10/2005 5:24:49 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott; All

Speaking of the Scythians, what ever happended to them?


39 posted on 02/10/2005 5:27:03 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: KevinDavis
"Speaking of the Scythians, what ever happended to them?"

Cut down in their prime, I'd suspect...ba dum bump!

40 posted on 02/10/2005 5:37:58 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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