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Three Ancient Romanian Maps Bolster Accuracy Of "Persian Gulf" Name (Arabian Gulf?)
Tehran Times ^ | 1-15-2005

Posted on 01/15/2005 4:35:16 PM PST by blam

Three ancient Romanian maps bolster accuracy of “Persian Gulf” name

VIENNA (IRNA) -- Three ancient maps kept in a Romanian academy confirm the accuracy of the name Persian Gulf to denote waters off the southern coast of Iran, said an Iranian embassy official in Bucharest Friday. Speaking to IRNA, the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that researches made by the Romanian academy uncovered a map called "Asiac Nova Descripto" dating back to 1584 in which the Persian Gulf is historically referred to as "Mar Mesendin Ol Sinus Persicus."

The Romanian academy is one of the most important and oldest research centers in Romania with a long 140-year history in research.

Another map, also produced in 1584, refers to the Persian Gulf as "Mare Di Mesendin Olim Sinus Persicos," the official said. He said that a third map, called "Asia Ex Mgna Orbis Terre" and dating back to 1612, also refers to the southern waters off the Iranian coast as "Mare Di Mefendin Olim Persicus Sinus."

The inscription made in each of the three maps with respect to the water is indisputable proof that history has always used the name Persian Gulf to refer to those waters and any other name not supported by history would be spurious, stressed the Iranian embassy official.


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There are countries in the region who want to change the name to The Arabian Gulf, of course Iran (Persia), wants no part of the change.

The Persian Gulf was completely dry during the Ice Age...as was the Red Sea.

1 posted on 01/15/2005 4:35:17 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.
2 posted on 01/15/2005 4:36:05 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Persian Gulf, Arabian Gulf... who gives a rat's patootie?

It is just a freeking toilet surrounded by various IslamoFascist hellholes, and populated by homicidal sub-humans practicing the Shi'ite and Wahabi sects of their horror-show moonbat excuse for a religion.

3 posted on 01/15/2005 4:41:46 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: blam

There should be respect for the historical name of the Persian Gulf. Allowing it to change for political reasons is an unwise thing, for it marks the introduction of Bolshevik methods into geography. Using the ideologically nonsensical term "IslamoFascist" also is a reflection of Bolshevik tendencies.


4 posted on 01/15/2005 4:49:33 PM PST by gradient_salient
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To: blam

Get a hobby. Buy a dog. Take a hike.
Who in the name of Heaven gives a damn what they call that spot?


5 posted on 01/15/2005 4:51:09 PM PST by CBart95
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I don't presume to speak for blam, but he/she posts items of archeological interest. That is the point of this as opposed to some political position.


6 posted on 01/15/2005 4:53:51 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: blam

I say we call it the "Gulf of Violent Dumbasses" and then they aal can be happy.


7 posted on 01/15/2005 4:57:34 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: blam

Does that mean that Iran wants to become Persia again and get rid of the Arab-inspired theocracy? For that matter does that mean that they are interested in denouncing the Arab-inspired cult of Muhammed?


8 posted on 01/15/2005 5:00:19 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: blam

I think the Iranian govt has a decided inferiority complex.

They are constantly screaming, "Look here! Look here at what we've done!"


9 posted on 01/15/2005 5:02:22 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Got Wood?)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Come on, FormerACLUmember, tell us how you really feel....{..snicker snicker..}
10 posted on 01/15/2005 5:08:23 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude (Plumbers for Bush....We flushed the Johns)
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To: blam

It is ironic that the Iranians are so persistent about maintaining the name Persian gulf while referring to themselves not as Persians but Iranians.


11 posted on 01/15/2005 5:10:28 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: CBart95; blam
Get a hobby

Old stuff is his hobby. Many of us enjoy and seek out his posts.
If you don't why stick around long enough to make comment?

As usual, thank you Blam.

12 posted on 01/15/2005 5:10:35 PM PST by ASA Vet (I issue a MEJI report on all Trolls.)
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To: blam
Thanks Blam, I'll ping the list later. These source maps are just a bit more than 400 years old, so it's not very compelling. Herodotus traveled in the Persian Empire and referred to the Gulf as being part of the Erythraean Sea, however, I'm a little short of online Herodotus, so that's as far as I go.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
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13 posted on 01/15/2005 5:15:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Spot on!!! What are the GPS coordinates for the nuke?
14 posted on 01/15/2005 5:15:34 PM PST by pointsal
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A map produced in 1584, the year of the first attempt to start a colony at Roanoke Island, hardly proves that the name (Persian Gulf) was always used. Civilization was about 5,000 years old by then. The map says that the body of water was "olim Sinus Persicos" meaning formerly the Persian Gulf.
15 posted on 01/15/2005 5:49:32 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: blam

And the point is ...?


16 posted on 01/15/2005 6:02:34 PM PST by Christopher Lincoln
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the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that researches made by the Romanian academy uncovered a map called "Asiac Nova Descripto" dating back to 1584 in which the Persian Gulf is historically referred to as "Mar Mesendin Ol Sinus Persicus."

But... But... Was it created with Microsoft Word?

17 posted on 01/15/2005 6:41:57 PM PST by The Electrician
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To: CBart95; ASA Vet
"Get a hobby."

Anthropology/archaeology is my hobby.

" Buy a dog."

If you'll check my profile page you'll see a picture of me and my four dogs. The small one just had puppies, so, I have nine dogs presently

"Take a hike."

I take me an my four dogs for a hike to the bay every evening.

Any more suggestions?

18 posted on 01/15/2005 6:49:30 PM PST by blam
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To: The Electrician

No but it was faxed from a Kinko's.


19 posted on 01/15/2005 6:50:25 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Bahbah
"I don't presume to speak for blam, but he/she posts items of archeological interest. That is the point of this as opposed to some political position."

Yes, thanks.

Click on my profile page to see a picture of me and my doggies.

20 posted on 01/15/2005 6:53:52 PM PST by blam
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