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Women See Scarlet, Men See Red
ABC Net/Discover News ^ | 8-4-2004 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 11/03/2004 3:34:16 PM PST by blam

Women see scarlet, men see red

Jennifer Viegas
Discovery News
Wednesday, 4 August 2004

The world may appear a more colourful place to women, according to a new study that finds many women perceive a greater range of colours than men, particularly shades of red.

The U.S. study, which analysed DNA from populations around the world, is published in the September issue of the American Journal of Human Genetics.

How men and women see the world appears to relate to evolution and how our early ancestors found food.

Men were likely to have been surveying the landscape for prey to hunt. But the researchers theorise that women were gathering fruits, vegetables, insects and other foods they often identified and rated by colour.

The researchers analysed the DNA of 236 people from Africa, Asia and Europe.

The scientists focused on a particular gene, OPN1LW, which codes for a protein, called an opsin protein, involved in detecting red light.

This gene also exchanges amino acids, the building blocks of protein, with a nearby gene involved in detecting green light.

Within the test group, the researchers found 85 variations of the OPN1LW gene, three times more genetic variation than for any other human gene.

Natural selection

The researchers, led by Assistant Professor Brian Verrelli at Arizona State University, who is also a postdoctoral fellow at the University of Maryland, said the high rate of variation was maintained by natural selection.

"Natural selection could have maintained these genetic differences at the red opsin gene thousands of years ago, and this is why we still see them in a large proportion of people today," the researchers said.

"It is estimated that a number of people today, we estimate about 40% of women, have added colour perception ability; however, it is unclear whether natural selection still operates today to maintain it."

Verelli and co-author Assistant Professor Sarah Tishkoff, from the University of Maryland, said that the X chromosomes could have two types of opsin, one perceiving shades of true red, the other shades within the red-orange range.

Men have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome, so they only have one of the two types of red-detecting opsin.

The limit, and possible problems with amino acid exchanges, sometimes result in colour blindness, which now affects 8% of all men.

Women can possess both opsin pigments because they have two X chromosomes.

According to Tishkoff and Verrelli, the 40% of women who have both pigments have superior colour perception for reds, and possibly other colours. This is because contrast allows humans to distinguish different colours.

But visual skills among the sexes could balance out because the same genes that affect colour recognition might also influence depth perception and visual acuity, which some men could excel at over women.

Tasty meal or poison?

In prehistoric times, colour perception could have meant the difference between eating nourishing foods and deadly morsels.

"The added colour perception would be a benefit to [women] and their offspring if it helps with possibly distinguishing edible berries and fruits from green background foliage, to distinguish ripe fruits from unripe ones, or even to distinguish nonpoisonous plants from poisonous berries," the researchers said.

"This added colour perception may explain how hunter-gatherer techniques became so common in humans."

Since the genetic component of vision does not take into account how our brains process colours, it is possible that every person literally sees the world in a somewhat different way.

Animals, fish, birds and insects may see things even more differently. The researchers said that organisms living in the deep ocean, for example, have several types of blue opsins that enable them to see countless shades of blue.


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1 posted on 11/03/2004 3:34:17 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 11/03/2004 3:35:41 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
The world may appear a more colourful place to women, according to a new study that finds many women perceive a greater range of colours than men, particularly shades of red.

Now I know why there is 10,000 shades of nail polish.

3 posted on 11/03/2004 3:39:10 PM PST by demlosers
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To: demlosers

And I own at least 5,000 of them.


4 posted on 11/03/2004 3:41:59 PM PST by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
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To: blam
The world may appear a more colourful place to women, according to a new study that finds many women perceive a greater range of colours than men, particularly shades of red

I am SHOCKED. I thought women's favorite color was GREENE.
5 posted on 11/03/2004 3:54:09 PM PST by The_Republican
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To: blam; Moose4
The world may appear a more colourful place to women, according to a new study that finds many women perceive a greater range of colours than men, particularly shades of red.

I could've told them that and saved all that money. I'm a beadworker and have a massive collection of Japanese seed beads. Including about 30 shades of green, 10 or 12 reds (can't do much with red) 40-some different blues...my husband just gets that long-suffering look whenever I get back from a bead show and start showing him the fascinating differences between two tubes of green beads. :-)

6 posted on 11/03/2004 4:24:28 PM PST by Foxfire4 (Schadenfreude is bliss)
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To: blam
Since the genetic component of vision does not take into account how our brains process colours, it is possible that every person literally sees the world in a somewhat different way.

I have always wondered about that.

We are taught our colors so we call something blue because we are told that it is blue. But maybe if you were looking through my eyes you would not recognize blue because it would look different then what you think blue looks like.

7 posted on 11/03/2004 4:29:20 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Dear Santa, I am sorry about Donner but one deer looks pretty much like another in the forest......)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
"We are taught our colors so we call something blue because we are told that it is blue. But maybe if you were looking through my eyes you would not recognize blue because it would look different then what you think blue looks like."

I've thought the same myself. My brother asked me the other night how do 'they' know dogs can see in color. "I don't know."

8 posted on 11/03/2004 4:39:54 PM PST by blam
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To: blam; ValerieUSA
This could be correct, at least in my case. I can't get enough of red, so much so, I think I've burned out my retinas.
ValerieUSA

9 posted on 11/03/2004 10:48:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 2Jedismom; 3AngelaD; ...
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10 posted on 11/03/2004 10:50:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: blam
I remember reading many times that men prefer orange-red; while women prefer red with a more bluish hue. Guess you guys just can't "see" the prettier color.

Once in a while I annoy my husband with my theory that one person's "blue" could look purple or green to someone else. Since we can't see through another's eyes; and they have always CALLED that color "blue"...well that's what they see as blue.

He accuses me of thinking too much...LOL.

11 posted on 11/03/2004 10:55:16 PM PST by garandgal
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To: blam

Women have better senses of smell too.


12 posted on 11/03/2004 10:55:59 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think I'm glad I don't know that song. :)


Glad you found your hat, election was successfull, now back to foofoo land. ;)


13 posted on 11/03/2004 10:56:18 PM PST by Chani
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Anyone remember the Cary Grant / Myrna Loy film Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House where Loy runs through a dozen or so shades of paint for the walls in one room, trying to describe the exact one she wants?

When she leaves, the contractor turns to his helper and says one word ...
14 posted on 11/03/2004 10:57:14 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (It's not a nail in the coffin. It's a mountain of nails with a coffin at the bottom.)
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To: k2blader
I could say something, but I won't... ;')
15 posted on 11/03/2004 10:59:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: Chani
Next up on Anachronismosis, Ice Age cave paint colors newly attributed to women... ;') The song is one of Martin Mull's... probably my favorite, although I've not heard all of his (I did see him live in the late 1970s) and haven't heard any of them in over ten years. :')
16 posted on 11/03/2004 11:02:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: blam
Women can possess both opsin pigments because they have two X chromosomes.

I guess the people who did this study do not understand one very interesting genetic fact about women. One of the two X chromosomes in women is TURNED OFF, cases where both X chromosomes are turned on leads some serious birth defects.

17 posted on 11/03/2004 11:02:48 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: SunkenCiv
Very interesting! I have extremely good color acuity and can match a color without having a sample at hand and see the most infinitesimal shade difference between shades of the same color.My mother was also extremely good at this,but said that I was better at it.My daughter is at my mother's level;not mine.I've always thought that it was an inherited trait.
18 posted on 11/03/2004 11:05:35 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Knew...ahem... an exotic dancer named DoubleXX Candy near Ft. Jackson in the 70's.

You just explained it all to me.

She had two serious birth defects.

She could see red though (and green, of course!)


19 posted on 11/03/2004 11:09:22 PM PST by uncleshag (Send the light !)
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To: uncleshag

Your statement is fragmented, could you please be more detailed.


20 posted on 11/03/2004 11:20:42 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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