Posted on 06/09/2014 2:49:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
The historical practice that this occurred in the context of... the Passover seder meal... is metaphor oriented. So this isn’t a big problem to me.
I’d also want to ask those who propound such a view: what do you mean by body, if wine and bread can be it. Any kind of actual definition for body leaves us high and dry here.
Jesus some about this spiritual “lawlessness,” when everyone makes their own rules in Matthew 7:21-23: “Not everyone who says to Me,’Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord,Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them,’I never knew you. Depart from Me you who practice lawlessness!”
Funny, you can't read or count! There are many questions, but I do like to stay focused. These are two important ones.
LOL! Gallup's version of the headline read Gallup: Three in Four in U.S. Still See the Bible as Word of God
Jesus also said He was drinking the “fruit of the vine” not blood.
Matthew 26:29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
Good point... fits with the scenario of Jesus presenting these elements in a metaphorical manner.
There are multiple ways Christian tradition can get lopsided. Does that mean you won’t or can’t get saved anyhow? No. But problems arise that make the walk more difficult.
You like to stay focused all right. To the extent you don’t answer questions and you totally ignore scripture that is posted to challenge you view. It’s not just focused, it’s dodging.
Kind of reminiscent of how C. S. Lewis testified that to him, the church with all its splits, divisions, and quarrels still appeared a formidable unity compared with himself on the outside.
If a strictly literal interpretation is taken, God quantified the minimum level of righteousness required to avoid divine destruction.
And in the case of Catholicism it has led to the inclusion of paganism.
OK, two trick pony? :-)
Believe it or not, not even this is a salvation-crucial issue. Many, many Catholics do accept a personal salvational relationship with the Lord.
It “can” do that, make room for the interference of spirits that aren’t friendly.
They still aren’t more powerful than God, and will not spoil an already cemented salvation. However they make things, well, interesting.
....”The findings reveal the utter chaos in our culture regarding the nature and authority of Scripture”....
As if that’s something new...just an old story that continues to play out in every generation....the enemies tactics never change because they work on an uninformed and unbelieving society.
I think more so today it’s a flat out denial that there is truth, as well as an overall lack of interest in truth as each makes up their own and anything goes.
Further society is in a hyper-active mode.....to “Be still and know that I am God”...is not attractive to lights camera and action.
Waiting on God certainly is helpful. Not everything is resolved in sitcom time frames.
I still think MacArthur himself tends to the hyperbole (using charitable terms here). He is the CEO of a virtual Home Depot full of broad brushes. He too needs to be interpreted :-).
I have no doubt about that. They are however admonished to “come out of her” or partake of her plagues.
So is "The Bible is the literal word of God, because the Bible says so, and God won't let his word be distorted."
It's not about logic, it's about faith. Appealing to Biblical authority has no effect on someone who doesn't share your faith in the first place.
This is pretty much hooey. There is wide sectarian disagreement (in legitimate churches) over what and how much of the Bible is what.
So calling honest disagreement “chaos” is somewhat disingenuous, insisting that only your denomination has the accurate description.
But that's a silly game. The important thing isn't whether the exact word is there, but whether the meaning is.
To your point: Catholics are convinced that Christ is the only mediator between God and man, in these ways 1) only He is mediator by very nature, being both true God and true man. 2) Only His work is necessary, because without Him, there could be no salvation. 3) He depends on no one else for power.
Mary does not fit this description because: 1) Mary is only a creature 2) Her role was not necessary, in and of itself 3) Her whole ability to do anything depends entirely on God.
But there's another level of meanings for "Mediator," meanings which indicate not divine power, but human her cooperation with Christ's mediation.
God freely choose her to make her Mother of the God-man, the Redeemer--on behalf of the whole human race she consented to God's plan of salvation by proclaiming herself the handmaid of the Lord. Mary was associated with her Son by the free decision of the Father, not because He "needed" he cooperation but because he CHOSE her cooperation.
In only this sense could she be (humanly speaking) a cooperator in Christ's Mediation, and this is how Catholics use the word "Mediatrix": Mother of Our Redeemer.
I accept all of Scripture. I believe in Salvation through the freely given Grace from God, and Faith. But Scripture literally says, 'not by faith alone' Clear words. These words of Scripture do not support your man-made belief of "faith Alone" so you either ignore the words of Scripture or change the meaning of the Word of God.
Your theology has to include ALL of Scripture. You can't do that, so you obfuscate. THAT is a one-trick pony.
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