Not even The Oprah is buying this crap.
Posted on 06/07/2021 12:57:35 PM PDT by ealgeone
A journey which unveils the mystery of how theology, history, culture, and politics led to a Biblical mistranslation, the man who tried to stop it, and the impassioned academic crusade of the LGBTQIA+ Christian community-driven to discover the truth.
1946 reveals the ground-breaking research of Kathy Baldock, a Christian Conservative LGBTQIA+ activist and Ed Oxford, an LGBTQIA+ theologian, in their quest to, discover what factors ignited the anti-gay movement within American conservative Christians. The filmmaker, Sharon “Rocky” Roggio, started this pursuit in an effort to find common ground, within scripture, for her and her conservative father, Pastor Sal Roggio. What has been discovered along the way stands the chance to profoundly change the language of inclusion and to better the lives of both conservative Christians and the LGBTQIA+ people they love. The removal of the LGBTQIA+ person from the sin category is akin to this century’s abolition of racial discrimination and the passing of women’s suffrage. There are two sides of history to stand on.
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1946 reveals the ground-breaking research of Kathy Baldock, a Christian Conservative LGBTQIA+ activist and Ed Oxford, an LGBTQIA+ theologian, in their quest to, discover what factors ignited the anti-gay movement within American conservative Christians. The filmmaker, Sharon “Rocky” Roggio, started this pursuit in an effort to find common ground, within scripture, for her and her conservative father, Pastor Sal Roggio. What has been discovered along the way stands the chance to profoundly change the language of inclusion and to better the lives of both conservative Christians and the LGBTQIA+ people they love. The removal of the LGBTQIA+ person from the sin category is akin to this century’s abolition of racial discrimination and the passing of women’s suffrage. There are two sides of history to stand on.
C.S. Lewis said, “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.”
Kathy Baldock, a straight ally, Christian LGBTQIA+ activist, and leading expert on LGBTQIA+ issues in the United States along with Ed Oxford, an LGBTQIA+ Christian researcher and a Masters of Divinity graduate of Talbot School of Theology, have been seeking to answer these questions and more. They are currently in the process of writing, FORGING A SACRED WEAPON: HOW THE BIBLE BECAME ANTI-GAY, by tracing the creation of anti-gay theology in America and analyzing how the Bible has been weaponized against LGBTQIA+ people.
In the summer of 2017, Kathy and Ed’s research* led them to Yale University, where they were the first two people to investigate what caused the 1946 R.S.V.** translation team - the first team in all of history - to use the word “homosexual” in any language. The translation team under the supervision of Dr. Luther Weigle combined two Greek words in the Biblical passage I Corinthians 6:9-10, “Malakoi” and “Arsenokoitai”, resulting in the modern term, “homosexual”. After prolonged research, Kathy and Ed discovered a letter penned by a 21-year old seminary student known as David S. David writes in 1959:
“I write this letter after many months of serious thought and hard work, partly to point out that which to me is a serious weakness in translation, but more because of my deep concern for those who are wronged and slandered by the incorrect usage of this word. Since this is a Holy Book of Scripture sacred to the Christians, I am the more deeply concerned because well meaning and sincere, but misinformed and misguided people (those among the clergy not excluded) may use this Revised Standard Version as a sacred weapon, not in fact for the purification of the church, but in fact for injustice against a defenseless minority group which includes the sincere, convicted spiritually reborn Chirstian who has discovered himself to be of homosexual inclination from the time of his memory. I write this letter with certain homosexual individuals in mind - Chrisitans who would die for their faith, their church, and their lord but who cannot alter their biological state of being. I hope that the committee responsible for considering any possible corrections or revisions of the R.S.V. text may take my case here presented into consideration.”
Additional correspondence between David S. and Dr. Weigle had the profound effect of changing Dr. Weigle’s position; the R.S.V. translation team did in fact replace the word “homosexual” in 1st Corinthians 6:9-10 to “sexual perverts.” Unfortunately, due to poor timing, the change did not take effect in the R.S.V.-Revised until 1971. By then, 25 years had past, and the damage was done. Three other independent teams were already working on other Bible translations, each using the 1946 R.S.V. as their base text. These newer translations become responsible for the spread of the word “homosexual” throughout a multitude of new passages.
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Working on additional info on the verse in question. Suffice to say the movie is in error.
Lies throughout the article. They keep calling her a conservative, for the sole purpose of being propaganda.
Also, the word “not” in the various commandments is an editorial interpolation and should be removed at once.
“It is my goal to change the Christian narrative and liberate the many LGBTQ people living in the dark; oppressed by bad theology.”
Romans 1:26-28:
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Decide for yourselves.
This is a new movie that is attempting to say the word homosexual is a mistranslation of 1 Corinthians 6:9.
This is just another attempt by Satan to distort the Word of God in an attempt to "justify" the chosen sinful lifestyles of homosexuals and lesbians...and who knows what else.
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The verse in question in English and Greek with the key word bolded:
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,
As rendered in the Greek. ἢ οὐκ οἴδατε ὅτι ἄδικοι θεοῦ βασιλείαν οὐ κληρονομήσουσιν; Μὴ πλανᾶσθε· οὔτε πόρνοι οὔτε εἰδωλολάτραι οὔτε μοιχοὶ οὔτε μαλακοὶ οὔτε ἀρσενοκοῖται
Every Greek manuscript has the word ἀρσενοκοῖται.
The word means:
733 arsenokoítēs (from 730 /árrhēn, "a male" and 2845 /koítē, "a mat, bed") – properly, a man in bed with another man; a homosexual.
Combine this with Romans 1:26-27
26For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. (NASB)
The only error being made is on the part of the people producing this mess.
The Bible is consistent on this issue. God created Adam and Eve and sanctioned marriage between only one man and one woman.
Anything else is a lie out of the pit.
God uses plain words. The devil uses sophistry.
She might be a fiscal conservative but she’s not a Bible conservative.
Yep. The whole thing is built on a lie....as all of Satan’s lies are.
...agree...! and showing either my age or my life as a conservative, can some one tell me what all this
“LGBTQIA+” stands for....??
Click the gear settings and turn on the Strong's numbers. That'll make most of the words in the Bible text turn into links. Click the word "effeminate" and you'll see it's from the Greek word "malakos", which means:
1. soft to the touch (I doubt that's a sin)
2. a catamite (a boy in a pedarasitic relationship with a man, in the Greco-Roman world it was used as a sign of affection)
3. a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man
4. a male who submits his body for unnatural lewdness
5. a male prostitute
Hmmmm.... I think it's pretty clear it means the gay thing ain't good for inheriting God's kingdom. But then, I don't claim to be a theologian, nor have a played one on TV.
They're claiming this changed in 1946. Nope. God's Word doesn't change.
It was a sin then and it's a sin today and it will be a sin tomorrow.
God uses plain words. Well Sure. Yet what about Billy Shakespeare? He did write one of the Psalms. When God was busy writing most all of the rest of the King James Bible, did any one tell God that King James was a same sex person? Now of course God knows everything, so I guess he just went along with the fact that King James was getting it done with guys instead of with girls.
And note, I focused on their verses in question. IMHO, the main tell is Romans 1, beginning with verse 16. It looks so much like modern society where we've gone from denying God's existence, to lewd heterosexual behavior, to now homosexual behavior. And if you keep reading you'll see that it doesn't stop there.
We have to win the argument first and foremost with the existence of God. Because we let worldly people "win" that argument in the public, we've opened the door for the other sins.
Kinda hard to tell! But not surprised.
Good grief. If they don’t like what the Bible says, then they should go start their own religion. Why do they always try to twist mine? There are plenty other ones to pick from as well.
The NIV is more explicit “men who have sex with men”. Looks to me like a concerted effort to twist the scripture. Romans Chapter 1 around verse 26 is pretty straightforward also. I have no malice whatsoever to homosexuals and I certainly don’t speak down to them or try to cause them trouble over the issue. But I stand firm in what I believe.
I’ve had a couple of friends of that persuasion. One died from Aids in the early 1980s. One seems to have turned from that lifestyle after a long-term relationship. From what I see, the Bible is clear.
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