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STATS SHOW ANDY RUINED BUSINESSES FOR NOTHING
boblonsberry.com ^ | 12/14/20 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 12/14/2020 5:28:49 AM PST by shortstop

Andy Cuomo made a mistake Friday.

He shared the numbers.

The contact tracing numbers. The ones that show where people are catching covid.

Specifically, he put up a PowerPoint slide that listed the results of the contact tracing of all cases of New York covid between the first of September and the last of November.

That was an interesting slice of time. It began in the quiet days of late summer, with the virus hiding in the depths of its seasonality, and it ended with the first traces of winter, with the virus emerged and spreading dramatically through the population.

It was a period that included low and high, and the sharp spike between them.

And it showed how, over those three months, the virus was spread.

And here’s what it found: None of the sectors of the economy targeted by the government played any significant role whatsoever in covid spread, and government quarantine policy seemed to play a dominant role in the large majority of transmissions.

Translation: We might have been better off in every way if the government had just stayed out of it.

Here are the numbers.

Restaurants and bars, long reviled as the focus of covid transmission, long the target of government restrictions and shutdowns, accounted for just 1.43% of all the covid cases in New York during the dramatic so-called “second surge.”

One point four three percent.

In a state where it is estimated covid-inspired government restrictions will put some 60% of restaurants out of business by the end of the year, restaurants and bars were traced to a tiny fraction of the cases.

And the governor, having this data, still imposed a color-coded scheme that further burdened and restricted both bars and restaurants.

He knew they were innocent, and he buried them some more.

The same with hair salons and barber shops.

Contact tracing showed that hair businesses were involved in the transmission of just .14% of all New York covid between September and November.

Fourteen one-hundredths of one percent.

And yet orange zone barbershops and salons were completely closed down by the governor’s order.

They had nothing to do with spreading covid, as his own numbers showed, but he screwed them anyway.

But not as bad as he screwed the gyms.

Gyms in New York were connected with the transmission of .06% of cases of covid.

Six one-hundredths of one percent.

And yet in the orange zones he shut them down completely.

Think of the tens of thousands of workers out of a job because of the unnecessary restrictions on salons, barbershops, gyms, restaurants and bars – industries that account for just 1.63% of New York’s covid cases.

How is that not a crime? How does that not have the state up in arms?

How can the state legislature and county leaders be silent in the face of such an insane injustice?

So, if the covid isn’t being passed in the industries the governor has destroyed, where is it being passed?

Well, .69% is from churches and other religious houses, which are also under the governor’s thumb. Travelers into or out of New York account for 1.06%, and he sent the National Guard to the airports to hassle them, and for a few months had most of the nation on a restricted list.

Teachers and other school employees, as well as those working in higher education, accounted for – as an employment-related transmission – 1.5% of New York’s covid cases. College students, who came back to campus in September and caroused like hell immediately thereafter, were 2.02% of cases. Public school students were all less than half of one percent, just like prisons. Frontline news media and motel workers were both .02%.

First responders of all sorts – to include, randomly, the military – were 1% of transmissions.

How about stores, the small ones and the big-box ones, the groceries and the hardwares and everything else. Taken together, every single store, thronged with customers, accounted for .61% of covid cases over three months.

Hospitals and nursing homes took a heavier hit, with all patients and residents, health care providers and institution employees, everyone from nurses to janitors, all combined to provide 7.81% of covid transmissions.

All totaled, that’s barely a quarter of the covid cases.

So, where are the rest?

At home.

Almost 74% of all the covid cases in New York during the rocket-launch between September and November were passed in the home.

Though ominously described by many public health officials as “private gatherings,” a way to blame people for their own illness by implying that their social choices have sickened them, these are almost exclusively in-home, in-family transmissions.

And quarantines play a big part in that.

One member of a family gets covid, that person is quarantined at home, and the whole family gets covid.

At home, conditions for spreading the virus are good. Outside the home, conditions for spreading the virus are bad.

New York has found every conceivable way to crack down on activities outside the home, where covid transmission is very rare. And it has used its power to keep infected families inside the home, where almost three-quarters of covid transmission is taking place.

What is better than quarantine?

Statistically, everything.

This isn’t an argument against quarantine, it’s just an honest assessment of where covid is coming from.

It is clear that society is getting it right in the workplace and in schools, has some challenges in health-care settings, but is getting decimated in the home.

And yet the governor will today announce new restrictions and rules on places which his own statistics show are not covid threats.

That’s the lunacy New York suffers under.

A governor who is proving every day that the cure is worse than the disease.


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Just like everything else in our lives, "We might have been better off in every way if the government had just stayed out of it."
1 posted on 12/14/2020 5:28:49 AM PST by shortstop
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To: shortstop

But he is following the “science”


2 posted on 12/14/2020 5:33:07 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: shortstop

Not only is Cuomo not held to account, he is rewarded for his actions. That’s the galling part.


3 posted on 12/14/2020 5:34:24 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: shortstop
One member of a family gets covid, that person is quarantined at home, and the whole family gets covid.

Has nothing to do with being "quarantined at home". If someone in a home has it, the rest of the people in the home get it, quarantined or not.

4 posted on 12/14/2020 5:37:02 AM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: shortstop

I’ll bet the stats are exactly the same for EVERY Socialist Democrat led State, City, Town and Unincorporated Burg.

LIBERATE WISCONSIN! LIBERATE AMERICA!


5 posted on 12/14/2020 5:39:18 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Mom MD

“Science” today should be called “Political science.”


6 posted on 12/14/2020 5:41:36 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Mom MD

Just playing devil’s advocate: If I were Cuomo I would say that the reason those places were such low transmission places is BECAUSE we shut them down. i.e. the graphs prove our actions were effective.

Unless I’m missing something here.


7 posted on 12/14/2020 5:41:53 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Tench_Coxe
In the SCREW UP, MOVE UP culture of the left gaining power is the only thing that matters.

Killer Cuomo has already totally bankrupted his state, hopelessly in debt, has the biggest crime spike ever, caused the single largest exodus from a state in history, lost so many residents that NY is now losing two Congressional seats:

- Mark Simone via Twitter
https://twitter.com/MarkSimoneNY/status/1337624305199435781
8 posted on 12/14/2020 5:42:09 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: shortstop

This was NEVER about public health.


9 posted on 12/14/2020 5:46:57 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: shortstop

Andy Cuomo made a mistake Friday.

He got out of bed and continued to breath. Too bad.


10 posted on 12/14/2020 5:47:23 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: Tench_Coxe

This COVID thing and the crooked election have done me in. I will no longer, at my age, get invested in any societal process that requires my money, time and emotional effort going forward. The younger generations have to figure things out now. It’s their ball game and I’m at 77-78 in the twilight of life just going to sit back and let it all play out in front of me.


11 posted on 12/14/2020 5:49:15 AM PST by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: shortstop

Cuooomo ruined New York, and so he is eminently qualified for a position in biden’s cabinet.

To reward him for destroying his state, he gets a cushy job in Washington. Get it? Probably figured he wouldn’t get reelected in NY anyway.


12 posted on 12/14/2020 5:50:50 AM PST by I want the USA back (I fear my government much much much much more than a virus from china.)
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To: cuban leaf

The stats are crap.

NYS counts probables as new cases. Repeat positives of the same patient as new cases.

And don’t get me started about the lack of transparency regarding the cycle threshold/s labs in NYS are using.

The stats are freaking useless from a public health standpoint.

But then this was NEVER about public health.


13 posted on 12/14/2020 5:51:07 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: Kid Shelleen

lost so many residents that NY is now losing two Congressional seats: .................................. LOL, Probably not Democrat ones, if it was, they will redistrict it so they keep it Democrat. Most likely in the northern tier (Land of Milk and Maple Syrup)if they are Republican seats?


14 posted on 12/14/2020 5:53:24 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft ( #ReasonableDemocratsforTrump. Where are you?)
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To: cuban leaf
i.e. the graphs prove our actions were effective.

Impossible to make that case, given that there are still “spikes” and “surges”, even, and especially in, places where they have the strictest “mitigation measures” in place. If this stupidity worked, we would be doing it for over 9 MONTHS, and we wouldn’t be hearing about needing to do it for another 12+ months.

COVID is a LIE.

15 posted on 12/14/2020 5:59:53 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: shortstop

Does anyone have the chart?


16 posted on 12/14/2020 6:00:11 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: cuban leaf

“the reason those places were such low transmission places is BECAUSE we shut them down”

Good point but maybe the period of time being analyzed was before the stringent closures of those places. If so, the conclusions would perhaps be valid.

Also, in the article there’s “He knew they were innocent, and he buried them some more.”

That’s a serious charge. Why would Cuomo do that?

My main concern now is whether the damaged and closed businesses can recover. If not then the economic tragedy is, in my opinion, worse than the covid tragedy.

Also, I think the magnitude of the covid tragedy is being exaggerated by the media and the magnitude of the economic tragedy is being glossed over.

Those 737 MAX crashes were due in part to failure of their navigational instruments. Our news media is our navigational instrument for showing us how our government and society is ‘flying’. It is failing us. Hopefully we’ll fix it before we crash.


17 posted on 12/14/2020 6:00:15 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: shortstop

Gov Tim Walz MN net worth 400 million has been copying CA and NY lockdowns is just as guilty as the other 2 idiots.


18 posted on 12/14/2020 6:08:25 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: shortstop

what about the elderly he MURDERED????

using FauXi’s murderous virus made for 35 USC 101 reqs??

where is accountability???

when will there be accountability???


19 posted on 12/14/2020 6:08:54 AM PST by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced" )
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To: shortstop

Devil’s advocate here, but people are not catching it at home. It has to be brought into the home from somewhere.

Then the home environment isn’t taking precautions like the places outside the home.

Sally comes home from college: suitcase decontaminated before being brought in from the travels, her books, computer, phone? She brings home her dirty laundry...is she washing it or someone else in the home right away? Junior is going to hybrid school twice a week. Is his backpack deconned when he gets home or is he just happy to be out from under the hyper-sanitary conditions at school?

In order for all these people to be getting sick inside the home ...the virus has to be coming into the home some how.


20 posted on 12/14/2020 6:08:54 AM PST by EBH (God Save the Republic. God is in Control. God knows what He is doing. )
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