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Public Notice of the Impeachment has already been Given!
December 20, 2019 | Petrosius

Posted on 12/20/2019 5:11:39 AM PST by Petrosius

Speaker Nancy Pelosi has threatened to withhold sending the notification of the Impeachment to the Senate until she gets guarantees of a "fair trial." Yet public notification has already been given, in the Congressional Record. All that Senator Mich McConnell needs to do is read this record on the floor of the Senate and then proceed either to a trial or a motion for dismissal. If he proceeds to a trial and the House does not send any managers, he could then easily move to dismissal on the basis that the House has failed to present its case.


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To: JaegerRex

The House makes it’s rules. The Senate can make theirs and “deem” the Articles accepted for trial.


21 posted on 12/20/2019 6:25:23 AM PST by TStro (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6)
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To: Bon mots

That’s so freaking funny....you are the official winner for the remainder of the year.

See Gina down the hall in the Promotions Office for your prize.


22 posted on 12/20/2019 6:31:13 AM PST by moovova
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To: Bon mots

Best GIF ever, I’m sending to everyone!


23 posted on 12/20/2019 6:33:16 AM PST by F450-V10
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To: JaegerRex
-- But the house hasn't voted to send the articles yet. This isn't like what happened with Clinton. --

Read the resolutions. They say what they say.

(House Resolution 611, One Hundred Fifth Congress, Second Session)

Resolved, That William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:

(House Resolution 755, One Hundred Sixteenth Congress, First Session)

Resolved, That Donald John Trump, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:

Now, in Clinton's case, there was a separate resolution passed immediately after the house resolved to exhibit the articles of impeachment to the senate.

(House Resolution 614, One Hundred Fifth Congress, Second Session)

Resolved, That Mr. Hyde of Illinois, Mr. Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, Mr. McCollum of Florida, Mr. Gekas of Pennsylvania, Mr. Canady of Florida, Mr. Buyer of Indiana, Mr. Bryant of Tennessee, Mr. Chabot of Ohio, Mr. Barr of Georgia, Mr. Hutchinson of Arkansas, Mr. Cannon of Utah, Mr. Rogan of California, and Mr. Graham of South Carolina are appointed managers to conduct the impeachment trial against William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States, that a message be sent to the Senate to inform the Senate of these appointments, and that the managers so appointed may, in connection with the preparation and the conduct of the trial, exhibit the articles of impeachment to the Senate and take all other actions necessary, which may include the following:

(1) Employing legal, clerical, and other necessary assistants and incurring such other expenses as may be necessary, to be paid from amounts available to the Committee on the Judiciary under applicable expense resolutions or from the applicable accounts of the House of Representatives.

(2) Sending for persons and papers, and filing with the Secretary of the Senate, on the part of the House of Representatives, any pleadings, in conjunction with or subsequent to, the exhibition of the articles of impeachment that the managers consider necessary.

That sort of resolution hasn't yet been taken with regard to Trump. One other point, H.Res.614 passed on December 19, 1998. The actions resolved were not performed until the following January.

24 posted on 12/20/2019 6:36:40 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Petrosius
public notification has already been given, in the Congressional Record. All that Senator Mich McConnell needs to do is read this record on the floor of the Senate and then proceed either to a trial or a motion for dismissal. If he proceeds to a trial and the House does not send any managers, he could then easily move to dismissal on the basis that the House has failed to present its case.
I like it.

OTOH,

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
. . . which means that you have to have Justice Roberts on board. And although that could be a problem, McConnell has an enticement for Justice Roberts: that the first order of business would be to dismiss Article II of the impeachment on grounds that since SCOTUS has granted cert to President Trump to contest the subpoena which the Article accuses President Trump of failing to comply with.

In that sense the House has picked a fight not only with President Trump and the Senate but with SCOTUS as well. Justice Roberts could even be the one to raise the point, and stick the knife in, entertaining Article I but rejecting any Senate consideration of Article II. IMHO Article II is Nancy’s Achilles heel.


25 posted on 12/20/2019 6:39:50 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: Petrosius
. . . in fact, you could say that Nancy’s caterwauling about “fair trial” is itself a gratuitous slap in the face to Chief Justice Roberts. McConnell should frame it that way.

26 posted on 12/20/2019 6:43:36 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: All

Funny she makes demands for what her and her colleagues failed to do.


27 posted on 12/20/2019 6:59:58 AM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: Petrosius
This old saying seems to apply here: When your enemy is shooting himself in the foot, keep giving him ammunition.

The delay seems to be far more a problem for the Democrats than for the Republicans, so let it fester. When the time is right, then consider some action like you suggested.

The problem that I see with your suggestion is that it looks too much like the trial was resolved on a technicality and the Democrats could parade around claiming that they would have prevailed in a "real" trial. A better solution, in my opinion, would be a summary judgment issued by Chief Justice Roberts declaring the case groundless and not worth wasting the Senate's time discussing. Of course, that won't happen. However, the majority leader could push for an early vote insisting that there is no grounds for a trial based on the findings of the House.

28 posted on 12/20/2019 7:00:14 AM PST by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: Bon mots

Already forwarded to like-minded family and friends as a Merry Christmas email!


29 posted on 12/20/2019 7:10:41 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: z3n

I always thought that this impeachment was payback for Billy Jeff’s impeachment, which was payback for Nixon’s impeachment!


30 posted on 12/20/2019 7:30:51 AM PST by gr8eman (Stupid should hurt! Treason should hurt more!)
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To: Petrosius

Bump.


31 posted on 12/20/2019 7:34:32 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: bert

Red and Black the Communist colors (see: AntiFA color logos from Weimar Germany— the same as the ones today, Red/Black).

The woman is an alcoholic, with alcoholic brain syndrome, and speech patterns.

She is being coached by lunatics of the Left Fringe. Laurence Tribe is a certifiable lunatic... and just one opinion, which is totally wrong.


32 posted on 12/20/2019 7:58:30 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Liz

More narrative creation from the WeHo PEDO failed jew-ish screenwriter, with a penchant for little black orphan boys he can “rescue” with his pervo pal Ed Buck.


33 posted on 12/20/2019 8:00:38 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Petrosius; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; azishot; AZ .44 MAG; ..

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34 posted on 12/20/2019 8:34:07 AM PST by bitt (A FRIVOLOUS impeachment vote is a SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY)
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To: Liz

My first reaction: IS HE KIDDING but of course, being shifty, he doesn’t have a sense of humor. What a nitwit! Guess none of the dems in the House are concerned about their reelection next year as that would finish them all off! Go ahead shifty - go for it - make yourself popular!


35 posted on 12/20/2019 8:40:45 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: CommerceComet

I am not saying that McConnel should follow this; only that he could if he wished to. This may or may not be a wise thing to do. He is also free to say that he will wait for a formal presentation from the House. The Senate has complete freedom to make any rules for the trial they wish. The choice is up to McConnel and the Republicans in the Senate. Pelosi can go and pound sand; she has no voice in the matter whatsoever.


36 posted on 12/20/2019 8:46:58 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

There is no Constitutional requirement that the House give public notice of peach mint


37 posted on 12/20/2019 9:17:16 AM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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To: bitt

bttt


38 posted on 12/20/2019 10:16:52 AM PST by thinden
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To: Bon mots

LOLOL!!


39 posted on 12/20/2019 10:24:39 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Bon mots

We got a laugh out of that!


40 posted on 12/20/2019 10:57:59 AM PST by ncpatriot
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