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Could President Trump be impeached and convicted but also reelected? [Academic Insanity]
The Conversation ^ | October 1, 2019 | Austin Sarat

Posted on 10/01/2019 9:08:02 PM PDT by familyop

Given the timing of an impeachment vote in the House and a Senate trial, a verdict could be rendered with the 2020 general election campaign in full swing, or even between Election Day and inauguration. This would create serious doubt and deep division about whether a president removed from office could legitimately take the oath of office again. Such a result might, as the president himself tweeted, "cause a Civil War like fracture in this Nation from which our Country will never heal."

To avoid that severe a split, uphold the Founders’ view of impeachment and minimize the perils of division that they feared, the Senate should, if the president is convicted, heed Alexander Hamilton’s advice and disqualify him too, ensuring that impeachment and removal from office results in "a perpetual ostracism from the esteem and confidence and honors and emoluments of...(this) country."

(Excerpt) Read more at theconversation.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: academicviolence; communist; coup; sedition
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Looks like Austin Sarat, "Professor of Jurisprudence and Political Science, Amherst College," wants an ongoing civil conflict. Is he hoping for a revolution with the outcome of hard socialism? Just how many academics have gone that far over the edge?

I only excerpted that much, because the outrageous conclusion is at the bottom of the article and would otherwise be missed by many readers. Before the end of the article, the professor made arguments against disqualification.

1 posted on 10/01/2019 9:08:02 PM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

It depends. Congress may, but doesn’t have to, declare a person ineligible to “hold any office of trust or profit under the United States.” It can be part of the penalty if the president or any other official is impeached and removed.

They chose not to do it when they impeached and convicted Judge Alcee Hastings, which is why he is now a Congressman.

If they were to include that disability in their removal of President Trump, then he could not be re-elected. But if not, then theoretically he could.


2 posted on 10/01/2019 9:12:46 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: familyop

That’s what baseball bats were made for.

No that is NOT a threat against this guy, it was a comedic comment on what seems to be the weapon of choice in certain NYC areas.

Can’t be too careful these day with what you say :)


3 posted on 10/01/2019 9:13:21 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: familyop

I smell a rat.


4 posted on 10/01/2019 9:14:30 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Another day younger and wiser.)
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To: familyop

Yes, we are a nation of people, and our President, not the House, the Senate or the courts and the people would reelect Trump no matter what the House and Senate do to destroy him.


5 posted on 10/01/2019 9:15:35 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: familyop

heed Alexander Hamilton’s advice ////

Hamilton’s advice is not a legal document.

This is all absurd conjecture anyway, since there aren’t 67 votes in the senate to convict. I doubt if there’s 40.


6 posted on 10/01/2019 9:17:11 PM PDT by Ceebass (The only thing Orwell got wrong was the date)
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To: familyop

academic you-know-what


7 posted on 10/01/2019 9:18:36 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: TBP
Congress may, but doesn’t have to, declare a person ineligible to “hold any office of trust or profit under the United States.” It can be part of the penalty if the president or any other official is impeached and removed.

I did not know that.
8 posted on 10/01/2019 9:20:55 PM PDT by JoSixChip (I'm an American Nationalist)
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To: dp0622

Out here, outside the metropolitan area, we have all those evil weapons of war that Beto warned you about, in the tens of millions, along with hunting rifles, pistols of all kinds, shotguns, rimfire weapons, knives, swords, machetes, and trillions of rounds of ammunition. Most of us get more range time than policemen and soldiers or at least have a passing knowledge of our weapons and marksmanship. I shot “expert” with the M-16A1 but somehow was only a “marksman” with the hand grenade.


9 posted on 10/01/2019 9:29:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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WOW.

Don’t want to bring a bat to that fight :)

Hand grenade. Geez.

I’ve used an M4, SCAR, Glock and a shotgun that i don’t remember at ranges.

Only did well with the M4.


10 posted on 10/01/2019 9:32:00 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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"...along with hunting rifles..."

Bolts: in the hands of men of ingenuity, some of the best weapons of war in existence.

11 posted on 10/01/2019 10:32:21 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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I looked him up, he is a LEFTARD from the Woodstock days.

Against the death penalty, racism...

He is a Lefty hero, a University-dweller sheltered from the Communism he espouses by fat paychecks, Cadillac healthcare plans and unlimited perks.

A Bolshevik who poisons kids minds for 50 years now.


12 posted on 10/01/2019 10:35:29 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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Could President Trump be impeached and convicted – but also reelected?

No.

Assuming the Senate invokes the clause barring future government service, he would be subject to the "fail to qualify" portion of the 20th amendment.

-PJ

13 posted on 10/01/2019 10:36:39 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: familyop

I only excerpted that much, because the outrageous conclusion is at the bottom of the article and would otherwise be missed by many readers. Before the end of the article, the professor made arguments against disqualification..

Yep it looks like it!


14 posted on 10/01/2019 10:49:57 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: familyop

Well I think it depends on Attorney General Barr.. If Barr moves fast enough he will start indicting people before the Dems really get moving on their Impeachment Hearing.. Thus they might vote to impeach and then the Senate will not convict..


15 posted on 10/01/2019 10:54:35 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: wac3rd
"I looked him up, he is a LEFTARD from the Woodstock days.

Against the death penalty, racism...

He is a Lefty hero, a University-dweller sheltered from the Communism he espouses by fat paychecks, Cadillac healthcare plans and unlimited perks.

A Bolshevik who poisons kids minds for 50 years now.
"

Thanks for the info, wac3rd!

16 posted on 10/01/2019 10:57:32 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Another parasite on the body politic, hatched in the ghetto of academia. They are usually the ones who feel most threatened by powerful people, as well they might.


17 posted on 10/01/2019 11:02:28 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Political Junkie Too
"Assuming the Senate invokes the clause barring future government service, he would be subject to the 'fail to qualify' portion of the 20th amendment."

Wouldn't disqualification be done with a separate vote after conviction?

18 posted on 10/01/2019 11:03:04 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

You mean like tactical pistol crossbows? I am shopping for a few now.


19 posted on 10/01/2019 11:14:21 PM PDT by MarMema
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I think so. That's what happened with Alcee Hastings. He was impeached, convicted, and removed from the judiciary, but not barred from future office.

He subsequently ran for Congress and won.

-PJ

20 posted on 10/01/2019 11:30:50 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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