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North Carolina mom begins serving jail sentence for baptizing daughter
Fox News ^ | February 17, 2018 | foxnews.com

Posted on 02/17/2018 3:36:18 PM PST by kevcol

A North Carolina mom started serving a week-long jail sentence for having her daughter baptized, according to reports.

The 2016 baptism at St. Peter’s Catholic Church when the girl was 2 years old defied a judge’s order in a custody battle between unmarried couple, Kendra Stocks and Paul Schaaf, who are no longer together.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; christianity; firstamendment; kendrastocks; northcarolina; paulschaaf; tyranny; waronchristmas
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To: rey

The baptism was for the child, not the parents


41 posted on 02/17/2018 4:32:38 PM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: longfellowsmuse
Did mom have child baptized in a different faith? or did she just do it without telling him so he couldn’t be there?

It sounds like the second, then she rubbed his nose in it on Facebook.

The judge should have given her more time than that for her stupidity in posting her willful contempt for his order on Facebook.

42 posted on 02/17/2018 4:33:48 PM PST by PAR35
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To: silverleaf

I think something is missing in this story


I’d say charity—but that wouldn’t be entirely accurate. I bet the kid is alright so far.


43 posted on 02/17/2018 4:37:37 PM PST by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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To: RonnG

Didn’t they also teach you to read the article before commenting on it?


44 posted on 02/17/2018 4:39:37 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: Hieronymus

45 posted on 02/17/2018 4:41:09 PM PST by freedomlover
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To: kevcol

A heavenly crown for that mother!

Eternal salvation is worth temporary incarceration.


46 posted on 02/17/2018 4:41:37 PM PST by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: Jamestown1630

The article is totally unclear. If they’re both Catholics, he must have wanted his child baptized at some point. It sounds like it was just another arguing point between them. Maybe he wanted to be there for the occasion. Maybe he wanted some input into who the godparents were. They aren’t being mentioned in the article, but that’s a lot of what the ceremony is about, not just pouring water on the child which, agreed, could be done in the bathroom sink.

It’s hard to say what should be done. Divorced parents who use their child as a weapon against one another care less about the child’s state of mind than the other person’s. If I’d had a child in such a situation, I hope that I would have just talked endlessly about my own moral principles, as my grandmother did to me. And not railed against the principles of the other parent.

I don’t know of any Christian tradition that says a child inherits its faith, but someone else might know.


47 posted on 02/17/2018 4:55:29 PM PST by mairdie
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To: kevcol

So where’s the punishment for all the women withholding the kids from visitation with dad that the court order says he gets?


48 posted on 02/17/2018 4:56:10 PM PST by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
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To: TomServo
I know it might be a long stretch in interruption of scripture but she might be in violation of Deut 21:18-21 "Rebellious Son, text" except she is not a rebellious son but I wouldn't doubt if daughters were under the same law per say, and also there was probably some law against rebellious adults too, but looking at the picture of the lady in question she doesn't look to old or too many years from being a teenager. She probably was a rebellious Bit#h equal to Hillary Clinton that is going to do what ever she pleases on doing, saying:
"....the Hell with the Judges order, and to hell with my ex husband or lover. I'm going to do what I ever I want to do. I'm going to be the one that gets the child baptized with out the fathers or judges knowledge, with out the judges Ok, and with out the father being present."
49 posted on 02/17/2018 4:57:10 PM PST by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: onedoug

Well, to be fair, not one baby was baptized in the Bible. It’s what you do on your own later to show your obedience to God. Public affirmation too.


50 posted on 02/17/2018 4:57:37 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: kevcol

Dad wanted to be there for the Baptism.


51 posted on 02/17/2018 4:58:08 PM PST by dangerdoc
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To: mairdie

Thanks!


52 posted on 02/17/2018 5:01:15 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: maine-iac7

You’re right to the extent that the father should have been notified. Though I did read in the article that both parents are practicing Catholics, and so should have done this as soon after the child’s birth as possible. By not doing so they themselves both sinned according to the edicts of the Catholic faith. At least by that standard the child has now been baptized.

The mother is now paying the price of having disobeyed the judge’s order. But, again by Catholic theology, the parents may both be paying a divine price for bearing a child out of wedlock if they aren’t married, and/or for being separated regardless, especially where their child is concerned.

A sad situation to be sure.


53 posted on 02/17/2018 5:09:18 PM PST by onedoug
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To: kevcol

He looks like an idiot.


54 posted on 02/17/2018 5:14:57 PM PST by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: mairdie
The article is totally unclear.

*******

What of the following article do you not understand?

The station quoted court records as saying Schaaf was
a practicing Catholic who attended Mass every week and
that the court had issued a ruling that gave him final say in all
legal custody decisions, including decisions concerning religion.

55 posted on 02/17/2018 5:21:42 PM PST by deport
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To: RonnG
My male Catholic schoolmates used to go to the Y to swim on weekends. There were many Jewish boys there. My guys uded to dunk them, say the formulaic words, and baptize all those heathens! 🤣🙏🏽😻
56 posted on 02/17/2018 5:22:36 PM PST by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: deport

Totally was hyperbole. I certainly understood what you quoted from the article. So can you tell me who were the godparents and whether they were approved by the father? The question was about the motivation of the father in opposing the baptism if he was Catholic. I made a suggestion that the issue of godparents could be one reason.

Personally, I approve the mother being jailed. Court orders should have meaning. She violated it knowingly. There are consequences for bad actions. She’ll, hopefully, learn something from those consequences. It’s irrelevant what her actions were. Only that they were against the court order.

Why the aggression? That attitude is totally bizarre.


57 posted on 02/17/2018 5:32:07 PM PST by mairdie
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To: Jim Noble
I have seen babies born struggling for life in the delivery room in exactly this way.

I spent many years working in a major hospital's ER and saw many,many memorable things....most of them sad.

Among my most vivid,powerful memories was watching one of our nurses baptize a little baby who was stillborn.It was about 30 years ago but I can see it in my mind like it happened this morning.

58 posted on 02/17/2018 5:32:42 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama & Hillary: The Two Most Corrupt Politicians of My Lifetime.)
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To: deport

Why the aggression?

***************

Not being aggressive. You said the article was unclear. I was
pointing out portions that maybe would help your understanding.
I didn’t mean to sound aggressive to you. My apologies.
Have a nice one.


59 posted on 02/17/2018 5:40:45 PM PST by deport
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To: Bon mots
Maybe they should stop getting women impregnated as a first step to not getting their tender feelings hurt.

The only reason a man sort of won is because a Christian stepped up to the plate to get her child baptised. If she had sacrificed her daughter at a wiccan ceremony, she'd probably be hailed as a heroine.

60 posted on 02/17/2018 5:56:01 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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