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Editorial: Springfield: Want to reduce shootings and killings in Chicago? Pass this bill
Chicago Tribune ^ | 10 mar 2017

Posted on 03/10/2017 8:49:28 AM PST by rellimpank

The first reported shooting of 2016, at the start of a horrendous period of gun violence in Chicago, occurred five minutes after midnight on Jan. 1 — a woman was grazed by a bullet fired through a window on South Paxton Avenue.

The first killing of 2016 happened two hours later, when a fight at a New Year's Eve party in the Grand Boulevard neighborhood spilled onto the street, leading someone to shoot 24-year-old DeAndre Holiday in the chest. Soon after, mourners arrived at the scene, including a shocked woman in a pink coat who punched a car in agony. Another woman shouted, "This is bogus! This bogus as hell! Who would do him like this?"

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
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--wow --a novel idea from the Tribune--put violent criminals in prison---
1 posted on 03/10/2017 8:49:28 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

Stupid.


2 posted on 03/10/2017 8:53:14 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: rellimpank
Soon after, mourners arrived at the scene, including a shocked woman in a pink coat who punched a car in agony.

So let me get this straight. A car is in agony over a shooting, and a woman in a pink coat punched it.

3 posted on 03/10/2017 8:53:50 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: rellimpank

But that’s only a piece of the puzzle. How about letting John and Jane Q. Citizen more readily defend themselves. Thug hunting licenses, so to speak, have a way of culling the thug population. Or they will go elsewhere to practice their thuggery.


4 posted on 03/10/2017 8:54:00 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: mountn man

I was curious about this locution too. Do mountains suffer too?


5 posted on 03/10/2017 8:54:43 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: rellimpank
in Chicago, it's dis.

Who would do him like this dis?"
6 posted on 03/10/2017 8:56:00 AM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

How about letting John and Jane Q. Citizen more readily defend themselves.”

The EEOC and NBLRB would never allow that due to blatant discrimination based on race, they have every right to practice their chosen profession as you or I do.


7 posted on 03/10/2017 8:56:52 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: eyeamok

oops NLRB


8 posted on 03/10/2017 8:57:13 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: rellimpank

Re: The idea of harsher punishment for repeat gun offenders is straightforward: Anyone caught a second time with a loaded gun who shouldn’t have one is a potential menace. Harsher punishments for repeat offenders would keep dangerous criminals off the street for longer periods and send a critical message of deterrence.

Well, it is a good thing this “novel” idea was not suggested by a Republican.


9 posted on 03/10/2017 8:59:27 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: mountn man

LOL! I knew the sentence was off but hadn’t nailed it down. These are writers for major paper, so sad.


10 posted on 03/10/2017 9:06:13 AM PST by Kenny
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To: HiTech RedNeck
was curious about this locution too. Do mountains suffer too?

I know the ones near Boulder, Colorado do.

Too many liberals.

11 posted on 03/10/2017 9:09:23 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Kenny
These are writers for major paper, so sad.

Sounds like you're channeling your inner Donald Trump.

12 posted on 03/10/2017 9:13:06 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: rellimpank

Be better if they erected a public gallows and whipping post.


13 posted on 03/10/2017 9:24:04 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The “cruel and unusual punishment” part of the Constitution is one of my least favorite parts.

I understand that torturing people as part of an investigation is a bad idea — quality of the information may be lacking. So that’s bad.
But actual punishment? For people convicted of a crime? Whip them, hang them in public, use them as an unpleasant object lesson for others in their community.

I have no problem with that at all.
I have a much bigger problem with the long-term warehousing of people who will never contribute to society.


14 posted on 03/10/2017 9:30:03 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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"These are writers for major paper, so sad."

Oh, it has been happening for a long time. I was a precocious reader, and started reading newspapers about 1955. It was virtually unknown to see an erroneous spelling or grammatical mistake in the local daily (NOT a "major paper" by any means). About the time I got my BS om 1970, a very few were beginning to be seen, and it has continued to deteriorate ever since.

15 posted on 03/10/2017 9:38:34 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“cruel and unusual punishment”

I believe they meant no Middle Ages torture deaths, not common executions like hanging. Now the nay-sayers say any death that is uncomfortable to the executed or those viewing it is bad.

I read of a military execution in Ft Laramie back in the 1850s or so.
The condemned soldier was to be hanged but they did it differently. They put a crossbar on a tall pole like a weigh scale. One side had heavy weights on it and propped up. The other side had a rope and a noose around the condemned man’s neck.

When the brace under the weights was removed, it dropped and the condemned man flew through the air like cracking a whip and his neck was broken when he hit the end of his rope.
I see nothing wrong with it.


16 posted on 03/10/2017 10:22:03 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

A trebuchet gallows? Interesting idea. Seems like an overcomplicated way to get the job done.


17 posted on 03/10/2017 10:41:50 AM PST by Little Pig
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To: Little Pig

I imagine it made quite an impression on other troublemakers watching it.


18 posted on 03/10/2017 10:47:44 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: rellimpank

A 2013 gun violence bill foundered in Springfield because opponents worried that long sentences would hurt crime-ridden communities by warehousing young men in prison instead of rehabilitating them.


Yeah, you don’t want to warehouse people who shoot children in the head.


19 posted on 03/10/2017 11:02:57 AM PST by samtheman (ObamaGate = Watergate Squared)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“There is nothing which so concentrates the mind as a public hanging”

-Thomas Jefferson

CC


20 posted on 03/10/2017 12:32:18 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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