Posted on 06/29/2016 11:13:06 PM PDT by vannrox
I was curious as to all the polls that show a tight race between Trump and Hillary Clinton. To this end, I googled the Reagan-Carter election. Especially pertaining to the June 1980 polling data. It seems that at that time, the election was also "close" with Jimmy Carter expected to have another four year term.
From Wikipedia;
"Weeks before the election, Reagan trailed Carter in most polls. In the Gallup poll on October 26, Jimmy Carter was at 47 percent and Ronald Reagan at 39 percent. Following his sole debate with President Carter on October 28, Reagan overcame the largest deficit since Gallup polling began in 1936, and within one week, the Associated Press reported that the race was "too close to call". Three weeks before the election, Yankelovich, Skelly and White produced a survey of 1,632 registered voters showing the race almost dead even, as did a private survey by Caddell. Two weeks later, a survey by CBS News and the New York Times showed a similar situation. Although some pollsters reported a slight Reagan lead, ABC News-Harris surveys consistently gave Reagan a lead of a few points until the climactic last week of October."
Great post.
There is no reason to believe that 2016 will not be like 1980.
Especially when the media and the pollsters are even more leftist than they were in 1980.
...and then Reagan won by a landslide even winning most of the Northeast except for Maryland, DC, and West Virginia. Carter also won Hawaii, Minnesota, his home state of Georgia, and that was it with election-eve polls calling it “too close to call”.
“Especially when the media and the pollsters are even more leftist than they were in 1980.”
I honestly don’t mean to be a kill-joy but the country is far more leftist than it was in 1980. You may have been around then as well as I but the country today is hardly recognizable to me by 1980 standards.
There is no reason to believe right now that 2016 will be any different than 2012. 2008 was a lost cause. That loss came as no real surprise but was a horrible disappointment. Both elections made me sick to my stomach.
I am constantly cautions to see the world as it is and not as I wish it would be. Right now, for this election, I have no way of knowing what it is. As for the country, it is all but lost. As a friend said, “When the dike is is breached it is all lost.” The dike is breached and whites are well on the way to being a minority. The dims have turned the country dark with illegals who share NONE of our culture and few of our values.
I am constantly cautions to see the world as it is and not as I wish it would be. Right now, for this election, I have no way of knowing what it is. As for the country, it is all but lost. As a friend said, “When the dike is is breached it is all lost.” The dike is breached and whites are well on the way to being a minority. The dims have turned the country dark with illegals who share NONE of our culture and few of our values.
Well then let's all just give up. Tell Trump to stop wasting his time and money. Let JimRob know FR is a failed effort and its time to retire. Send your guns in to the feds because they're going to seize them all anyway. Learn Spanish and Chinese, and practice bowing and crawling. Let's see, have I forgotten anything? After all, all is lost. We are a doomed people, a doomed country. And above all, we need to all just suck it up and accept that evil cannot be defeated. There, happy?
Oh yeah, by the way, FU, coward.
The country is still far more conservative and Christian than it is not. Whenever Republicans run someone who convinces Christians and conservatives that he’s one of them, they win. See Reagan twice and Bush Jr. twice. We lose when we run candidates whose history is one of being liberal, moderate or failing to lead their lives according to Christian principles. This is the simple, indisputable, true, consistent, proven fact.
I also thought 2008 was a lost cause. I feared Obama would be a radical in sheep’s clothing. But after 8 years of GWB, constant barrage of media propaganda, without any proper response, the outcome was a given.
And then came Sarah Palin! She changed the whole campaign, and suddenly a McCain presidency was not inconceivable.
And then the Lehman crash, the suspension of McCain’s campaign, his non-intervention in the talks with the President, and the campaign was totally lost. But only then.
“See Reagan twice and Bush Jr. twice.”
Bush Jr. lost the vote of the American people in 2000. He won in the electoral college thanks to Ralph Nader taking enough votes from Al Gore in Florida to enable Bush to win Florida by less than 1000 votes.
Hell, look at how many people actually voted for Sanders!! 20 years ago that would have been a joke! Now they think he is a serious candidate.
I agree, seeing things for the way they really are isnt easy, but its better than having your head in the sand and pretending all is well.
You got that right.
History tends to repeat itself, like it or not. This does remind me of 1980.
The problem is not the percentage of whites in the population. Anyone of any race can be a clear and logical thinker; anyone of any race can be instilled with the culture of freedom.
The big problem is that the left lies to get its way, and its techniques are extremely effective. The left appeals to emotion: leftist propaganda harnesses fear and hatred, at the same time promising utopia if only you will follow its pied piper. And because the media is completely complicit in the narrative, it does not show the failure of leftist policy. And, in the few cases where the spectacular failures cannot be hidden, the leftist media lies and calls the leaders of those failures "rightwing" (e.g. Hitler and Nazism).
I've spoken to many non-white people whose values are basically conservative, yet vote Democrat--it's not that they want a socialist dystopia, but that they have been so thoroughly propagandized that they really believe that conservatism is a form of fascism.
Political education is nearly non-existent. People do not understand the real meanings of the terms, nor do they truly understand the philosophies behind the terms.
I hope it does not require sinking the country into a Venezuela like morass to wake people up, but I'm afraid that we'll end up there anyway. We're poised at the brink now--I think that the election of Hillary will be the tipping point.
2 questions:
1: Do you donate to FR?
2: Do you donate to Trump's campaign?
If the answer to either or both is "no", then you are part of the problem "as you see it"....
——There is no reason to believe that 2016 will not be like 1980—
Conversely, there is no reason to believe that 2016 will be like 1980
As the mutual fund disclaimers say “the past record is not necessarily representative of the future”
American women apparently are the key to winning and they are totally irrational
Still, all is not lost if we just get off our frickin arse and vote for Trump . If we ach can drag at least 2 more people to the polls who didn't vote in the last election, we can win.
What I remember about the 1980 election is the expression on Rosalynn Carter’s face when Jimmy gave his concession speech. Such a look of anger, it’s etched in my mind.
VOTE YOUR VOTE
FORGET POLLS
the PRAVDA MEDIA is right out of orwell’s novel....
MINISTRY OF TRUTH at work
He chuckled and tossed Carter the one-liner, "There you go again."
Another great moment was when Reagan faced the camera and spoke to the nation:
Are you better off than you were four years ago? Is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? Is there more or less unemployment in the country than it was four years ago? Is America as respected throughout the world as it was four years ago? Do you feel that our security is as safe, that we're as strong as were were four years ago?
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