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Something Trump needs to publicize.
DH | 12/20/2015 | DH

Posted on 12/20/2015 7:45:44 AM PST by DH

Something Trump needs to publicize.

We, the people, have had the “rug pulled over our heads” in the knowledge of just how many jobs, professions, and entities in America are created as the result of some government regulation, decree, grant, law, corruption or any other method that results in any jobs or professions that are paid for by taxes (on all levels from local to national) or by any law that forces a free citizen to either use or purchase by the threat of fine, incarceration, intimidation, punishment or any type of government intervention.

This study should also is to include any (and all) products, services, methods and devices manufactured or sold by companies that utilize any market caused by a government rule, regulation, corruption or law.

This includes the most flagrant example…tax accounting businesses…that exist solely upon the need for free citizens and businesses to comply with the laws of the IRS and each state, city and governmental taxing authorities from the local to the national level.

Companies, organizations and professional entities that receive any type of subsidies or money from the government are deemed to have government paid employees since their jobs would not exist without government money or regulatory requirement.

I’ve never heard of any study of this type, and there may be one somewhere in cyberspace, but I am not aware of it. If there is, it should be flaunted by Donald Trump to show just how bad it has become and how much worse it will be in the future.

I think the tax paying public would be absolutely shocked at just how many jobs, professions and businesses solely exist due to government regulation, graft and corruption on all levels from local to the national level.

The ratio of employees working at jobs that exist due to government requirements (and upon all government itself from local to national) verses free enterprise should be alarming. And, with each year it gets worse.

I think if he could come up with these figures the country would be truly shocked to know just how bad it is and what the future holds for their children if things keep going the way they are. The only way to turn it around is to DRASTICALLY reduce government on all levels, terminate rules and laws that exist for no other reason than to increase the government’s power over the people and business to enrich those in all levels of government, directly or indirectly.

Once the people know the truth, then we can work on the welfare scam.


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Has there ever been an actual factual study of the ratio of government workers ( paid by money generated from taxes on all levels from local to national ) to private sector workers? I think the result would be shocking.
1 posted on 12/20/2015 7:45:44 AM PST by DH
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I can say that construction has a multitude of issues with rules and regulations that greatly increase the cost of jobs and lengthen the time of projects.

It is amazing to me that so many great structures still standing from the past were constructed without the myriad rules and regulations in place today.

We are currently working on the reuse of a 140 year old four story building that sat empty for 40 years and it is in great shape. How could that have been built without Big Daddy government interference?

2 posted on 12/20/2015 7:52:59 AM PST by Thumper1960 (Cruz/Palin2016)
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To: DH

Charles Murray wrote a book called By the People that goes into this as part of the background for his thesis.


3 posted on 12/20/2015 7:54:53 AM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: DH

Solar subsidies that have individuals build
Electrical generation public utilities can’t build any more. .. The problem ? These back yard systema will fall apart in a matter of time and be almost impossible to repair .. Batteries will need replacing. No subsidy for that. Government created disaster waiting to happen.


4 posted on 12/20/2015 8:03:47 AM PST by jcon40
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To: DH

I see your point about having to hire someone to do income tax because it is mandated.

I see the need for income tax, but I have two issues with it. One is how it’s spent. The other is how our tax is computed.

I do not like the idea of having to purchase software to do this each year. I’ve also hired H&R Block and CPA’s in years past, this all gets to be expensive.

With regards to individual income tax, a simple method such as giving each person a standard deduction subtracted from the gross income, then a simple percentage that would apply to all. The percentage can be graduated based on gross income. That’s it, period.

Anyone capable of simple math could do it on their own. Of course this excludes millennials, as many don’t work and those that might work probably can’t do simple math.

This would practically gut the IRS, eliminate most H&R Block types, and put many CPA’s out of work. The amount of money saved would eventually get spent creating enough demand to put those unemployed by this back to work in a different field.

The difference is people would be spending that money on something they choose to buy vs being forced to buy.


5 posted on 12/20/2015 8:05:11 AM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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Is this basic deduction to be taken against gross income, adjusted gross income, or taxable income, and how will business revenues be treated? Gross receipts, receipts less COGS, or net profit/loss? What happens with net operating losses?


6 posted on 12/20/2015 8:08:55 AM PST by Oceander
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To: DH
In the 70's there was a very good song.

"Billy Mack is a detective down in Texas You know he knows just exactly what the facts is He ain't gonna let those two escape justice He makes his livin' off of the people's taxes"

Steve Miller's "Take The Money and Run.

7 posted on 12/20/2015 8:09:39 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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Great idea! A few years ago, Rush mentioned a stat re the number (>100) of jwelfare programs there are and an individual is better off not working.


8 posted on 12/20/2015 8:10:16 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore)
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My brother just retired from one of these make work, government do nothing jobs.

His total wage and benefits were about $200,000 a year, and he constantly complained he was under paid. He did try to jump into private industry several years ago and was insulted when a major corporation only offered him $75,000/year for the same job description (which, at the time, they said was a higher offer than ever for that job). Can’t fault the individual for taking the easy money, but in the end they are just another “gibsmedat”.

Yes, the public would be shocked at the level of waste created daily by our government. It has turned into its own perpetual motion machine that exists only to support and grow itself.


9 posted on 12/20/2015 8:11:21 AM PST by wrench
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To: DH
Nice move.

TRUMP NEEDS TO TAKE THIS ON: issue a study on the number of jobs, professions, and other commercial entities and businesses that exist as the result of government regulation, decree, law, subsidy, grant, official corruption....any govt method that encompasses employment subsidized by taxpayers (whether by local, county, state or federal authority).

FOR EXAMPLE: Study conditions that force Americans to use or purchase a govt-enforced service under threats of fine, incarceration, intimidation, punishment or that is enforced by the use of official government power or intervention by a govt office.

The study should also include products, services, methods and devices manufactured or sold by companies that utilize an artificial market...one caused by government rule, regulation, official corruption or laws enacted at the state or federal level.

Flagrant examples might include tax accountants, tax filing businesses which exist solely b/c of onerous laws that force free citizens and businesses to comply with govt taxing authorities at the local, county, state and federal level.

NOTE Companies, organizations and professional entities that receive various govt subsidies, grants, monies, etc, should be deemed to have govt employees since these jobs would not exist without government money or regulatory requirement.

10 posted on 12/20/2015 8:12:46 AM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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For 17 years I had a business and I paid my accountant about $2,500 per year to do my tax returns and Paychex another $500 to handle the payroll. That’s $3,000 I could have had in my pocket if the tax laws were not so complicated. So $51,000 over 17 years that could be in my IRA.


11 posted on 12/20/2015 8:18:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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“I can say that construction has a multitude of issues with rules and regulations that greatly increase the cost of jobs and lengthen the time of projects.”

Isn’t it amazing that buildings actually stood before having to pound 50 nails in a Simpson tie on every single piece of wood? s/


12 posted on 12/20/2015 8:19:17 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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Saw some stats (that now I can’t seem to find in a search) where 100 years ago it took 80% of our workforce to provide the necessary goods and services to get by. Today it is about 7%.
Mass farming, Marketing, heavy construction equipment are examples of what trimmed the work force.
Robotics will reduce it more.

Seriously there is little we will need from a work force in the days to come. Haircuts, massages, counceling, police, Home Depot to get more cheap junk to replace the Chinese garbage that will soon fall apart in your home ... Even the need for truck drivers to deliver your new TV and other packagea will soon fade.
Besides repairing broken water lines and fixing roads industries like travel, recreation, eating out, will provide a few jobs but I’m at a loss to see where meaningful jobs will come from.

Facebook ? I Phones. Give me a break. Money spent on useless people telling other useless people what they are doing.
Ah how about Nothing.

Ok Ive depressed myself enough.


13 posted on 12/20/2015 8:28:48 AM PST by jcon40
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Not sure where to post this, but have spoken to few of my democratic friends (yes, friends!) about primaries/ticket, etc. and need to share... Their nightmare is Clinton/Trump and if that’s the case, all I hear is that they swear they are “staying home—not voting if that’s the choice!” WOW! They are wearing our shoes from four years ago. Do I vote or do I stay home?...


14 posted on 12/20/2015 8:48:37 AM PST by GizzyGirl
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To: DH
Has there ever been an actual factual study of the ratio of government workers ( paid by money generated from taxes on all levels from local to national ) to private sector workers? I think the result would be shocking.

None of that matters because we have a magic currency that can be replicated in infinite quantities and will be accepted for payment by everyone for any product and service and for all time.

15 posted on 12/20/2015 8:58:09 AM PST by Stentor
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To: DH

Some aspects of the poultry business have more regulators for the gubment than there are private enterprise poultry workers.

I went by the local hatchery one day and saw more gubment white cars in the lot than other.

We are regulated and monitored to death.


16 posted on 12/20/2015 10:16:04 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Liz

I agree completely, but he had better have REALLY GOOD personal security 24/7.


17 posted on 12/20/2015 10:38:08 AM PST by Senormechanico
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To: Oceander

The post I made was with regard to “individual income tax”. I did not address business income. I’ve operated a business and know the tax solution for a business would have to be much different.

I’m not the first to conceive a flat tax notion. Those that would actually write such a bill, with a sincere interest in streamlining the tax system, would likely find a solution more equitable to the tax payer and less beneficial to the government. I’m including business income here.

With regards to individual income, I suggest there would be just a simple individual deduction that is equal to all. There would be deferred taxes on retirement funds such as 401k’s that would be taxable only when metered out in retirement.

Now many would scream at my suggested individual income tax ideas. They need not worry for no such thing would ever happen.

One of my reasons I think the system is so burdensome is in the late 90’s H&R Block refused to do my taxes because they were too complicated. I’m not making this up. I lost my rear in commodities. I bought tax software for $25.00 and after about $10 worth of calls to the IRS and software help desk I did them myself.


18 posted on 12/20/2015 11:00:02 AM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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Fair enough. Just for the record, I wouldn’t blame your problems with H&R Block on the complications of your situation (which I am not minimizing), but on the borderline incompetence of H&R Block. They can handle the basics, but beyond that I wouldn’t trust them at all.


19 posted on 12/20/2015 11:03:48 AM PST by Oceander
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To: Carthego delenda est

Can you imagine some places require hurricane clips in Pennsylvania? Heck, we have made buildings so tight we need to install ventilation systems to bring in “fresh air”, CO2 detectors and require smoke detectors in every system 5-ton and larger on every commercial project. Then there are licensing requirements in many municipalities. You must obtain a journeyman’s cert and fork over $50 every year to keep it valid. The number of times I have caught “inspectors” ignorant of air flow, Manual J or basic design, I don’t have enough fingers or toes to count.


20 posted on 12/20/2015 11:20:34 AM PST by Thumper1960 (Cruz/Palin2016)
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