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Estrangement
Townhall.com ^ | December 2015 | Bruce Bialosky

Posted on 12/20/2015 6:07:42 AM PST by Kaslin

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Excellent advice by Mr Bialosky
1 posted on 12/20/2015 6:07:42 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I, personally, disagree.

The family members I am estranged from do not deserve my time. I can also live without their jibes, insults and lack of honesty.

I’m a conservative and they cannot deal with me.

I wish them all long, happy and prosperous lives. Just keep ‘em away from me.

Merry Christmas.


2 posted on 12/20/2015 6:13:12 AM PST by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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As goes the family, so goes society.


3 posted on 12/20/2015 6:17:58 AM PST by o_1_2_3__ (…)
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To: Kaslin

My youngest son (39 yo) has decided that he wants nothing to do with us. Haven’t heard from him since about last February. We don’t even know where he lives now. He’s made some bad choices in his life. We miss him and our two grandsons.


4 posted on 12/20/2015 6:18:03 AM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: Kaslin

This advice is well borne out by Charles Dickens’s classic “A Christmas Carol,” wherein Scrooge has estranged himself from his beloved sister’s only son, and comes around following his visitation with the ghosts. It’s a central facet of Scrooge’s reformation. It didn’t get a whole lot of attention in the novel, but in the Alastair Sim movie version they play it up very well indeed, particularly when Scrooge looks into his niece’s eyes and says “Can you forgive a pig-headed old fool for having no eyes to see with, no ears to hear with, all these years.”


5 posted on 12/20/2015 6:20:41 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: BBB333

Agree.Sharing common ancestors doesn’t mean you are friends, or can even stand each other’s presence.

Some of the biggest family fights happen during the holidays when people that should never set eyes on each other are forced to spend time together. Toss booze into the mix, and you have the ingredients for a real knock down, drag out get together.


6 posted on 12/20/2015 6:20:58 AM PST by wrench
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To: BBB333

Yup. I gave a crew of raging idiots I’m related to. Havent seen or spoken to them in years. Every year was better without them. LIFE was better without them. Blood does not make family. Good people you care about make family.

If thats not true, someone really needs to explain adoption better.


7 posted on 12/20/2015 6:22:08 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

edit Gave UP on


8 posted on 12/20/2015 6:23:47 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: BBB333
I also disagree. I grew up 1 of 3 children to an alcoholic father who beat his wife an children relentlessly for years until he disappeared never to be seen again.

Cut to today and his first child (an older sister to me) is in the bottle by her own choice and I've managed to form a nuclear family with a 12 y/o son that is more important to me than my disfunctional older sibling will ever be.

After having her at my home for Christmas five years ago and watching her drink herself into oblivion in front of several children I've chosen to eliminate that for the good of my sons future.

Nothing is more important than that. Not even a sibling relationship. Estrangement can be a good thing.

9 posted on 12/20/2015 6:24:46 AM PST by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: BBB333

I am with you.

We do not get to pick our relatives. Being a realtive does not guarantee a healthy or pleasant relationship.

I would rather spend my time with friends that I have chosen than enduring the jibes, insults and lack of honesty with some of my relatives.


10 posted on 12/20/2015 6:24:58 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting , knitting, always knitting.)
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To: BBB333
You put me in mind of that little Christmas verse by Hilaire Belloc:

May all my enemies go to Hell,
Noel, noel, noel, noel.

11 posted on 12/20/2015 6:25:10 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Kaslin

Out parents weren’t perfect, but they were God Fearing, strict, and they were mostly fair. Consequently, despite normal sibling rivalries as children, all of my brothers and sisters grew up to become best friends as adults. Family - it’s the most important thing in life after God.


12 posted on 12/20/2015 6:29:18 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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To: BBB333
Another gift we can lay at the feet of liberals is the injection of corrosive poisonous political divisiveness into the very fabric and breath of everyday live, including friendships and families.

They have politicized everything from food to bathrooms. Because of their ignorant secular atheist humanist, and yes- fascist philosophy, we cannot escape the “conversations.”

I struggle everyday in my Christian journey to remain kind, humble and forgiving, as I encounter stupidity, arrogance, slothfulness. Family and friends are no exception.

13 posted on 12/20/2015 6:32:48 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Tax-chick
A friend was visiting that I only see on occasion.

A friend whom I see only occasionally was visiting.

14 posted on 12/20/2015 6:36:16 AM PST by Tax-chick (Maximizing my cultural appropriation.)
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To: BBB333

I vote with you. Why try to force a relationship with someone who gouges you at every turn. I am fulfilled by my non-blood-sharing circle of friends who like and respect me.


15 posted on 12/20/2015 6:38:07 AM PST by ryderann
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To: wrench

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8fPvODASoI&list=RDl8fPvODASoI

The Chieftains: St. Stephen’s Day Murders


16 posted on 12/20/2015 6:38:44 AM PST by Tax-chick (Maximizing my cultural appropriation.)
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To: super7man
Being a relative does not guarantee a healthy or pleasant relationship.

Amen. I haven't seen a relative of any kind in years...saves a fortune in travel expenses. :-)

17 posted on 12/20/2015 6:40:22 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
The Alastair Sim "A Christmas Carol" is my favorite version of that great classic story of redemption. The scene you described always leaves me watery eyed. There are a few other scenes in the movie that do the same.

I highly recommend this movie to all my FReeper friends. It is a wonderful experience.
18 posted on 12/20/2015 6:44:52 AM PST by Dan in Wichita
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To: Kaslin

It is terribly sad, especially for little reasons less than murder, grand theft or pedophila.
My grandpa and one of his sisters did not speak for 25 years until he was dying.
Father has a sister and they have not spoken in 20 years or more.
One of my sisters has now cut off my dad - about 30 years and now all siblings. I didn’t even have a fight with her, would have liked to have known the whys.
I always think Sins of the Father.
Also the fifth commandment:
Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the LORD your God is giving you.


19 posted on 12/20/2015 6:46:48 AM PST by libbylu
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To: Kaslin

“Short of some grievous crime, the parting of the ways really is just a matter of false pride.”

I suppose that would come to defining what a ‘grievous crime’ was. Having a relationship with a relative who is dishonest, selfish, and generally destructive and abusive to everyone including themselves is nigh on impossible. From personal experience I’d say that there are some that you have to set aside in order not to be sucked down into the maelstrom they create.


20 posted on 12/20/2015 6:53:39 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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