Posted on 09/17/2015 7:48:57 AM PDT by Isara
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Much like his posture in the previous August debate, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz avoided the verbal combat that took place among Republican candidates on the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library debate stage on Wednesday night.
The central figure in the debate and the presidential campaign Donald Trump was on the receiving end of almost constant critiques, jabs and dress-downs from his rivals on the stage. Cruz's clear insistence that he will not alienate Trump meant that in this context, he was left on the sidelines for much of the night.
CNN moderator Jake Tapper did not ask Cruz a question until nearly thirty minutes into the three-hour debate, and even before the night began, it was clear there was little upside for Cruz to to engage with Trump, or anyone else.
The only real sparring Cruz did was with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, when Cruz criticized Bush's father and brother former Presidents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush for their appointments of former Justice David Souter and current Chief Justice John Roberts to the U.S. Supreme Court. Cruz charged that the two Bush presidents had more conservative options for the high court, and had they made different appointments, the high court would have ruled differently on cases that enraged the conservative base.
Jeb Bush counter-argued that Cruz, who has previously described Roberts as a mentor and a friend, backed Roberts at the time of his appointment.
That was a mistake and I regret that, Cruz said.
Wednesday night's debate was a different setting from the first GOP debate on Aug. 6, where Fox News hosted 10 candidates on its main stage at the Cleveland Cavaliers' basketball arena. CNN expanded its lineup to include former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, and its debate stage was in a smaller venue at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.
When Cruz did take center stage, he spoke directly into the camera and seemed to draw from his stump speeches, addressing the Iran deal and his efforts to defund Planned Parenthood.
At one point, though, he praised Trump and knocked retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson on immigration.
"I'm very glad that Donald Trump's being in this race has forced the mainstream media finally to talk about illegal immigration," Cruz said.
Then he shifted to Carson, taking an indirect shot at his proposed immigration policies.
"I like and respect Ben Carson. I'll let him talk about his own plans," Cruz said.
But he added: "I will say this: The natural next question that primary voters are asking after we focus on illegal immigration is, okay, what are the records of the various candidates? And this is an issue on which there are stark differences."
"I am the only candidate on this stage who has never supported amnesty and, in fact, who helped lead the fight to stop a massive amnesty plan," Cruz said.
Carson denied that his plan was amnesty. The meaning of that term is widely disputed in conservative politics.
The junior senator from Texas entered the debate tied for fourth place with U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., in a recent Washington Post poll. The two men trail Trump, Carson and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.
Cruz was not the only candidate with a low profile on the stage. Lasting only two hours, the format made it nearly impossible for any of the 11 candidates to have substantial air time.
Except for Trump.
The real estate developer either heckled or was heckled by several candidates on the stage. Most of the questioning focused on engaging Trump with Bush and Fiorina, two candidates with whom he shared biting exchanges on the trail in recent weeks.
The most dramatic moment of the night involved a Trump back-and-forth with Fiorina, the only woman in the debate and in the GOP nomination chase.
CNN's Tapper asked Fiorina to respond to derogatory comments the real estate developer made about her appearance to Rolling Stone.
Fiorina used an unrelated comment Trump made about Bush to segue into her retort.
You know its interesting to me, Mr. Trump said that he heard Mr. Bush clearly, in what Mr. Bush said, she said. I think women all over this country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said.
Trump responded: I think shes got a beautiful face and I think shes a beautiful woman
It wasn't a debate. It was a question and answer session.
I like him - he’s the conservative Freepers should be backing.
He’s superbly qualified to be President.
Cruz can’t do much more until conservatives shake loose of their Trump delirium and come to their senses.
Mark Levin is complaining about it this morning.
The debate could have done with about 3 or 4 less people on the stage.
Cruz is steady and deliberate.
+1,000,000
Cruz was 4th in total time talked....not exactly ignoring. You guys tried to pull that last time but when the total minutes were accumulated, Cruz was in the top half and you guys were like.....oh crap. Sorry. I guess we were complaining for nothing.
It’s obvious the GOPe and media are purposely ignoring Cruz, it is a conscious tactic. They can’t call Cruz an idiot, so they have to ignore him. Here are the speaking times.
Trump: 18:47
Bush: 15:48
Fiorina: 13:30
Carson: 12:56
Christie: 12:36
Rubio: 11:21
Cruz: 10:45
Paul: 10:28
Kasich: 9:44
Huckabee: 9:20
Walker: 8:29
Ted Cruz is only solid conservative running in this circus. But he doesn’t poll well.
I think the primary advantage of him as president is that as a senator he knows who he can trust and count on in the house and senate. I suspect he would be pretty effective at sidestepping Boehner and McConnell if they were still in “leadership” positions.
Agreed, but I think (or maybe hoping) he is being strategic at this point.
That could be good or bad.
The first primary isn’t until Feb 1, 2016. He has plenty of time.
Yes, that’s too bad, he’s my original horse in the race. I still support him and hopefully something will shake loose for him later down the road
Who knows. But the article is right, Cruz appears to be biding his time - and I don't disagree. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
He’s for amnesty.
These “debates” are a joke. What will CNN do with the profits they make on it? They should donate it to disabled veterans.
Cruz didn’t “stay out” he was professional and didn’t want to come across as a whiny bitch. Kind of like Fiorina came across to me. While she did well, there were times where I heard her whining to get to say something. That just doesn’t serve one well when you’re whining to a moderator to get a chance to speak.
I have some concerns with Cruz...he has shown some bad judgement in in the senate (like TPP and the Iran crap deal to make it an upside down treaty vote), but I could vote for him if he’s the nominee (I think).
I don’t like Trump, but I will vote for him just to piss off the crony capitalist and the political class. It will at least be entertaining and at this point instead of being pissed off at politicians I can at least be entertained by them as they rape and plunder our country.
Cruz needs to be on our POTUS Republican ticket without a doubt!
Cruz / Carson
Cruz / Jindal
Cruz / Walker
Trump / Cruz (I don’t think Trump is humble enough to take a VP role ;n)
“It wasn’t a debate. It was a question and answer session. “
And the mods were scared to death to question him because he has answers to the tough questions.
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