If the Party says "2+2=5", then 2+2=5.
If people don't understand that, they don't deserve a Higher Education.
Posted on 03/20/2015 12:31:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
It looks like there may be more to this story. The student certainly seems a bit off.
http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/19/male-students-non-pc-views-on-rape-stati
I teach federal government at the local college.
Want students engaged and speak their mind, encourage independent thought and I always take the “other side” in any debate. . .just to get the students thinking.
That said, this term I have a student that clearly has an agenda. No matter the discussion, no matter the subject, no matter what we are examining, this guy will ALWAYS steer the discussion to his encounter with the police 14-yrs ago and his subsequent arrest.
Great, good info when were were discussing the Bill of Rights and how the constitution protects God given rights, but when we are discussing the FCC and Net Neutrality or the federal bureaucracy or the budget-making process, for example, he will jump in, say something tangentially relevant to the topic and then go on a rant about his arrest.
So, sometimes the instructor has to make a decision and sometimes the decision is to recommend the student just shut the heck up.
“they would rather not be there if you are there”
Then there’s your solution, Mr Professor.
“Private college” isn’t bound by 1A?
Do they charge tuition? Then they’re not private according to the new order. You know, the one that compels bakers and videographers to serve everyone regardless how they feel.
Frankly, telling the student to ‘just shut up’ should be done in a one-on-one with the student, perhaps giving him a time for just him to relate his experiences privately to the instructor, and then explaining that you (instructor) also have other obligations to the collective class that are made more difficult by the interruptions. Just a thought.
True said he sparred with classmates over discussion topics related to ancient Greece and Rome, such as the "patriarchal" belief that logic is more important than emotion and his analysis of Lucretia's rape. But it was his questioning of the widely shared and often debated statistic that 1 in 5 women in college are sexually assaulted -- it doesn't serve "actual rape victims" to "overinflate" numbers, he said -- and his rejection of the term "rape culture" that led to him being banned, he said.
He’s a denier. Make him drink the hemlock.
Ms. Lewinsky went to the other macaroni headed small liberal arts college in Portland (with me)....Lewis and Clark. Never confuse the two.....LC students had a football team. Reed students manufactured LSD.
But he will NOT stop, even interrupting other students.
Been forced to yank his leash. . .in class. It is working.
If the Party says "2+2=5", then 2+2=5.
If people don't understand that, they don't deserve a Higher Education.
— and as the foundation of their little phony worlds crumbled,
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Re: Phony
I first read that word as, “ My Little Pony”. Indeed, the mush heads are still trotting around in their childhood make-believe worlds.
Interesting. Colleges are not bound by the 1st amendment. So therefore, colleges are not bound to follow constitutional law or any of the bill of rights. Following this logic, a college could enslave you, jail you without trial, search your home or person without warrant. Since colleges seem to have extra-legal powers and don’t have to follow the law, what is to stop a college from convicting and executing a student?
All too often many students have never been expected to behave responsibly or in an adult manner. I do. Most get it after a class or two, some, like this guy, do not.
After a few classes most all of my students know what is acceptable behavior and adapt and actually act and speak as a mature adult.
It is a matter of expectation.
“True said he sparred with classmates over discussion topics related to ancient Greece and Rome, such as the “patriarchal” belief that logic is more important than emotion “
Well, he proved beyond a shadow of a doubt the feminization of Academe.
While I admire him and any other kid that would put their future on the line for what they believe (and what is true), I do have to wonder, being that he’s black, whether he would would be on our side in that Starbucks ‘conversation’ about race. I’ve been let down by way too many people on that, but privately and in the public sector.
For me, I prefer to define "rape" and "sexual assault" according to classical criteria.
If it was:
A) Sexual intercourse accomplished via violence or threat of bodily harm, orthen it rape. Otherwise it wasn't. And in the case of (B), if they were married, then I would consider consent to be implicit unless explicitly withdrawn.B) Sexual intercourse on an actually unconscious woman who was unaware that sex was happening (not just drunk, but completely unconscious).
If a girl accuses a guy of rape because "well, I had sex with him because I thought we were going to have a relationship, but then he didn't call", then SHE should be expelled, if not prosecuted.
Perhaps there is more to it, but there may be more to the context of his “bizzare” response.
My first thought was that this student was being inundated with a huge number of people asking him for interviews, delivering nasty emails and phone calls, etc.
Only seeing one side of this, the blog guy saying he asked for an interview with the student about his “disruptive behavior” in class, etc.
I would prefer to see the communication both ways before I say anything. Instead of saying “I would like to discuss your views on the rape culture on campus and your interactions with your professor” he says “I want to discuss your behavior in class”, and I could see where the guy being asked might take the wrong impression and shut him down, figuring he is another PC liberal trying to nail him to the tree for not swallowing the groupthink.
Sexual assault has mutated such that when two equally drunk, consenting people have sex, the man can be considered guilty of rape while the woman is innocent.
The charge of rape then depends on her deciding she feels she was raped, though they were equally impaired and willing.
Add in colleges prosecuting guys based on a woman changing her mind about an encounter months later or who had to negotiate where to hook up and cross half a block to meet up, and the “rape culture” is incredibly unfair to men.
She just has to feel like it, and the school prosecutes. If the police say there is no evidence, he may still get kicked out of school, removed from a residence hall, denied his diploma.
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