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Mind-Boggling! In a Sane World, Netanyahu Win Would Be a Slam Dunk
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | March 17, 2015 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 03/17/2015 4:51:25 PM PDT by Kaslin

RUSH: The Israeli election is today. They had kind of a shocking thing happen yesterday. Here's what's going on. Arabs are being bussed in to the polls to vote. Israel is surrounded by people that don't want it to exist. Surrounded by people that would just as soon obliterate, not just the real estate, but the people who live there. And I would think everybody in Israeli knows it.

I don't see, in a sane world, how Netanyahu's opposition in any way even gets close to winning, but they might. It just goes to show -- I don't know whether you're following the Israeli elections or not -- the polls will close in Israel five o'clock our time. They're open 'til ten o'clock in Israel -- maybe it's four o'clock Israel, five or six hours ahead. I'm not sure what they do on daylight time. But it's either nine or ten o'clock tonight the polls close in Israel, and I don't think there are any exit polls per se.

Did you know Obama has been helping Netanyahu's opponent? Obama officials have been over in Israel helping to run and maybe even finance, to some extent, Netanyahu's opposition. The opposition to Netanyahu are people who believe it's okay that Iran gets the nuke and it's okay that Obama negotiate the deal and we got nothing to fear if that happens. And, in fact, the Palestinians ought to have their state, and whatever anybody else wants us to do, we're gonna do. And that side may actually win. It's not just in this country where the world seems upside down.

It's not just in the United States where things seem insane as you can readily tell what happened in Israel and what is happening. Netanyahu, absent ideology, Netanyahu ought to be a slam dunk, landslide winner, even without taking ideology into account. I mean, if you just vote on the security and future of Israel, there's only one choice here -- Netanyahu. The fact that this is even close boggles my mind. Actually it doesn't because I've been around long enough to know the dangers of the left, and they're everywhere. They're not just here; they are everywhere. And they are as loony everywhere around the world as they are here.

Now, the opposition to Netanyahu, made up by Isaac Herzog -- and he'd created a weird candidacy with another Israeli leftist by the name of Tzipi Livni. They formed an opposition party and they made a deal with each other that if they win, Herzog would serve two years and then quit and Tzipi would serve two years as prime minister. They would rotate it. Sort of a rotation type plan. The equivalent would be if Obama and Biden had promised that the first two years Obama will be president and the next two years Biden would do it.

The reason they did this was to try to coalesce opposition votes to Netanyahu. Rather than tear each other apart in a quasi-primary like, they joined forces for the express purpose of defeating Netanyahu. Well, something happened last night. Herzog dropped Tzipi Livni. She is gone. He dropped her from the ticket. They'd been running for the last number of months as a team in what's called a rotation agreement. They actually have been running around calling it a buy one, get one free. If you ended up voting for the combined faction they make up two political parties, then they would win the most seats in the Knesset.

This is why they did it. They came together on a unity ticket just to beat Netanyahu. They couldn't do it by themselves. They had to combine forces. They would have the most seats in the Knesset. And what happened was that Herzog had promised to serve as prime minister for two years, Tzipi Livni for the second two years, but Tzipi Livni is very unpopular. I'm not clearly up to speed as to the specifics of why Tzipi Livni is unpopular, but she is. And this whole rotation thing within the two parties was not something unanimously agreed upon and accepted.

It was with clenched teeth that the opposition parties went along with this thing. And as time has gone on and as the election remained in doubt, pressure was brought to bear to get rid of Tzipi Livni because she could end up being a drag on the ticket and a drag on turnout because of her unpopularity. But the problem is they've done this the day before election. There are allegations coming forth that this looks paranoid, that it looks like it lacks judgment, it looks like they're not serious. Charges are going back and forth.

Netanyahu is accusing them of all those things that I have mentioned, and then they're back and forth in accusing Netanyahu of the same. What's at stake here is the United States' deal with Iran, which would permit them to have a nuclear weapon. The Iranians have said that they hope, and someday want to, obliterate Israel and wipe it off the map. They've been very up front and honest about this. To me it is an indication of just how precariously civilization is balanced and is teetering here.

I realize it may be somewhat controversial to suggest that this election ought not even be close. To me, that's common sense. I'm not even thinking of Netanyahu as conservative and these other people as leftist liberal socialists. I'm looking at this strictly from a security of Israel standpoint. I don't know how anybody that lives over there could vote for anybody that might want to make a deal with Iran, that would permit them to have a nuclear weapon. But they exist, and there are lots of 'em, maybe. We'll find out.

Also, a separate Palestinian state is part of this, and that's something Netanyahu reaffirmed last night, that if he's reelected, there will not be, on his watch, a separate entity Palestinian state.

Now, in the Israeli media this is being characterized as a last-minute Hail Mary to rally fringe right wingers in Israel. Obviously only fringe lunatics are opposed to a Palestinian state, you see. But this whole Middle East argument -- I just watched a television series about this called The Honourable Woman. I don't know how many of you have seen this. It stars Maggie Gyllenhaal. It's a drama, and it's a spy series, and it's nothing more than entertainment. I'm not drawing any, "Hey, man, this happened in this movie and this is reminding me of what's happening in the election." None of that. I don't do that.

Movies are total fiction to me, and TV shows are total fiction, and I try to avoid the trap of relating what I see on a TV show to real life, especially in terms of predicting what might happen in real life. But what this show ends up, the point that it ends up making is that no matter what anybody does, this mess never gets solved. No matter the best efforts that anybody has ever undertaken, the best plans anybody has ever come up with, the greatest negotiators, whatever, you make it the best talkers, the best negotiators, the best plan, it never, ever works, and it hasn't worked in a thousand years.

This story is about an Israeli family that very industrially -- cable, high fiber cable, try to link the West Bank for the Palestinian territories to show that they love the Palestinians and they want them to learn, they want them to be educated. And it doesn't work. It all falls apart, everything gets undermined, as everything over there always does in the negotiated peace process. There never has been a negotiated peace over there, and there never will be. And this, to me, is common sense. It's been thousands of years negotiated settlements have been attempted.

Clinton was desperate, you know, the Lewinsky thing had totally taken over and had become the central theme of the Clinton presidency. He was desperate for anything that would outshine that, make people forget that. He brought Yasser Arafat over to Camp David, White House, whatever, and ended up giving Yasser Arafat -- I think with Ehud Barak was the Israeli prime minister at the time. It doesn't matter who it was. Yasser Arafat was given everything the PLO demanded, everything that Fatah demanded, everything Arafat said he wanted, Clinton gave them.

And Arafat backed out, precisely because why? Arafat didn't want a solution. What's in it for anybody after there's a solution here? The road to riches is paved with no solutions. The road to fame, riches, notoriety, all of that comes from the struggle. If there is no more struggle, if there's no more disagreement, if there's, quote, unquote, peace -- that's another elusive concept -- then all these people fighting for it all of a sudden have nothing to do. It was very instructive. Clinton offered Arafat everything, and I think even threw in some goodies that Arafat hadn't asked for. Arafat ran away, didn't want any part of it.

So we're left with what is the inescapable reality, and that is that Israel is surrounded by people who want it gone. Israel is surrounded by people who want the Jews marched into the Mediterranean or nuked or in some other fashion destroyed. That hasn't changed. And how the people who live there, I don't, I've only been there five days. I may be speaking out of school. But the idea the Israeli election is even close -- I understand how elections go. I understand elections may not at all represent public opinion. I mean, they're busing people to the polling places, the leftist candidates are busing people in to vote. They have no idea what they're voting on, probably never voted before. I understand how all this works.

Don't misunderstand. I'm not being naive here. I'm just still stunned that according to the pre-election polling data that it's this close. I mean, I try to think, what if the United States were the size of New Jersey and every other state surrounding us hated our guts just because we are alive, and had hated our guts for the last 230 years, and had made no bones about the fact that they wish we weren't there and that they want New Jersey for themselves because it's theirs. We don't even have any right to it.

They gave us New Jersey way back when because they said we were entitled to our own state. The people that disagreed with that have disagreed with it ever since it happened and they want to wipe us out. So we got an election in New Jersey for whoever's gonna run the show. And one of the candidates thinks we can make peace with the 47 other states that want to wipe us out. I don't think that candidate would have a prayer. But he would. Because the left lives in eternal devotion to the never and impossible dream of utopia.

They believe that if the right people come along, good people like them, and simply treat these hatemongers the right way, that they can rid the haters of their hate and turn them into massive amounts of love and appreciation, and it just never happens. Conflicts such as this have never been solved with words. Ours is a world governed by the aggressive use of force. So we will see. It's quite interesting. It's fascinating and it does have ramifications for US policy, and also, don't forget, the Regime, the Obama administration has been over there campaigning for Netanyahu's opponent.

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RUSH: No, no. The TV show is The Honourable Woman. It's a great spy thriller. It happens to be about the Middle East, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but I'm not recommending it 'cause there's anything to learn about that, other than the utter futility of trying to solve this conflict with good works. Ain't gonna happen. The TV series illustrates that, but it's just a great spy thriller, BBC.

The story is fascinating and if you want to try to relate it to real-world events, feel free. I'm just telling you that the conclusion the program came to, which is the common sense one, is that no matter what you do, the good works, all the effort in the world, all the sabotage, everybody that tries great things end up being undermined, and it always fails. And not because of lack of effort, not because people involved aren't good people.

It's just that this kind of conflict is never, ever gonna be solved with an agreement. Just like World War II was not gonna be solved with an agreement. You get the agreement after one side surrenders, and there's only one way to make that happen is if you beat them in war. And that, of course, can't even have that on the table. No, no, no, no, no. Not even gonna go there. So the utter futility. I'm just amazed at everything and how it keeps repeating itself. Different people saying the same things, different people doing the same things, different people proposing the same things, different people, depending on the year, the generation, different people concocting a new variation of an old idea.

It never works and it's not even based on reality. The reality over here is Iran and what their intentions are with their nuclear weapons. And they've said so. So the decision, I guess, is, do you believe them, or do you roll the dice and say they're just huffing and puffing? At any rate, Reuters has a story on this today, and the headline: "'King Bibi's' Reign Challenged in Israeli Election." Do you know how many Arabs live and vote in Israel?

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RUSH: I was in Israel in 1993 for five days. I've not been back. But I'll tell you, one of the things that surprised me was the high population percentage of Arabs that live and vote in Israel. I don't know why that surprised me, but it did. As of January of this year, just a couple of months ago, the number of Arabs living in Israel is 1.7 million. That's 20% of the country's population. And the women can vote and the women can drive. The women, the Arab females in Israel have much more freedom than they have in their own native countries.

But that's where the anti-Netanyahu vote is. I don't know what percentage of that 1.7 million Arab population is of voting age, but it's sizable, and that's the constituency that's being bused to the polls today to vote against Netanyahu. So we'll just have to see. Netanyahu, of course, as a conservative is hated and reviled, as this piece in Reuters so clearly illustrates.

"'King Bibi's' Reign Challenged in Israeli Election -- Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's march towards becoming the longest-serving leader of Israel could be halted on Tuesday in an election that has exposed public fatigue with his stress on national security rather than socio-economic problems."

What an unbiased headline and lead paragraph that is. King Bibi. Imagine the uproar if Obama were referred to as a king by Reuters. King Obama. King Obama's reign challenged by senator's letter to Iranian mullahs. Can you imagine what the reaction would be to a headline like that? King Obama's reign challenged by traitorous 47 Republican senators and their letter to the Iranian mullahs.

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RUSH: The point here is that whenever the leftists are left to their own devices, they bomb royally, such as on MSNBC trying to compete with Fox, or in defending actions that Obama is taking here. And Reuters: "'King Bibi's' Reign Challenged in Israeli Election -- Surging rhetoric against Iran and the Palestinians has apparently done little to close Netanyahu's lag behind center-left opponent Isaac Herzog."

There's nothing center about Isaac Herzog. He's as leftist as Obama is. There's nothing centrist about the opposition candidate in Israel. So, anyway, we'll just keep a sharp eye on this here, folks, and what I'm thinking, my sincere hope -- and it is a hope -- is that the polling data on this is so skewed and that we're gonna have a result tonight that really isn't even close. But since we got representatives of the Obama administration over there, and since a large percentage of the Arab population is being bused to the polls, it's impossible to tell and to get a good read on it.

But it does matter, because what's at stake here is the American nuclear deal with Iran. Well, more than that's at stake. The actual, I think, future of Israel is on the table here, too, which is what boggles the mind. I don't even understand why it's close, but it is.

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1 posted on 03/17/2015 4:51:25 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

So Bibi going play for my Lakers???

They need like strong dude Kobe is out for the season LOL!


2 posted on 03/17/2015 4:54:57 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Kaslin
I learned a long time ago that it's often pointless to analyze elections in foreign countries, especially those with parliamentary systems of government where the elections usually result in the establishment of a governing coalition involving multiple political parties.

One of the problems you face when analyzing elections like this is that we tend to assume that the issues we think are important here in the U.S. are the same issues that they think are important over there.

3 posted on 03/17/2015 5:04:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Alberta's Child

Netanyahu called the election an almost-record two years early because he felt he was in an intolerably weak position. These election results appear to leave him in almost the exact same position he was before.


4 posted on 03/17/2015 5:09:55 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SevenofNine

Basketball bracket a miracle come from behind in your face victory for BiBi !


5 posted on 03/17/2015 5:13:23 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipe like Project : build it already Congress !)
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To: Alberta's Child
One of the problems you face when analyzing elections like this is that we tend to assume that the issues we think are important here in the U.S. are the same issues that they think are important over there.

The survival of Israel used to be one in the same between our two governments.

6 posted on 03/17/2015 5:16:04 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: American Constitutionalist

HA HA touche LOL!


7 posted on 03/17/2015 5:49:35 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: jjotto

Not exactly the same position because now he won’t have Lapid.


8 posted on 03/17/2015 6:45:19 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Lisbon1940

Thank God! Unless he’d rather have Lapid than religious parties...


9 posted on 03/17/2015 6:47:54 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Kaslin

A win is a win. Even if he won by one vote, he won. I am glad he won but now Israel needs to come together and work on their government and leave America to deal with ours which is up for grabs in 2016. They may need our continued support with military equipment which I am sure we will give them. But hopefully with this win, Bibi will feel more secure and not look to the United States for the pat on the back he desires. He needs to look to his own populous for support. We will always have Israel’s back but they need to start standing talk on their own too.


10 posted on 03/17/2015 7:46:38 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: Kaslin; Alamo-Girl; marron; hosepipe; xzins; YHAOS; MHGinTN
...[T]his kind of conflict is never, ever gonna be solved with an agreement. Just like World War II was not gonna be solved with an agreement. You get the agreement after one side surrenders, and there's only one way to make that happen is if you beat them in war. And that, of course, can't even have that on the table. No, no, no, no, no. Not even gonna go there. So the utter futility. I'm just amazed at everything and how it keeps repeating itself. Different people saying the same things, different people doing the same things, different people proposing the same things, different people, depending on the year, the generation, different people concocting a new variation of an old idea.... It never works and it's not even based on reality....

Absolutely it never works. Because the "progressivist insurrection" is not in any way, shape, or form based on Reality. If one were to invoke the criteria of actual Reality, one would have to say that every attempt whatsoever to establish a progressivist Utopia has always failed.

But any such "success" would require the abolition of "First Reality," in order to pave the way for the establishment of a Second Reality — the sort of thing that Lewis Carroll famously documented in his Through the Looking Glass: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.

In this big-picture scenario, 0bama is the Red Queen.... (or is it Valerie Jarrett?)....

Progressivist ideology requires two things: (1) the Death of God; (2) the extinction of human history as relevant subject matter that one can draw on to inform the proper ordering of human society today. In short, not only the death of God will do, but the death of the historical human past is required, on the putative grounds that the future is entirely understandable and even predictable without knowledge of the human past.

I won't belabor this point beyond saying that public education nowadays at all levels does not seem to devote itself to the transmission of knowledge about the human historical and cultural past. Forget the classical definition of education as the transmission of culture from one generation to the next. This idea has been "overcome." Progressivism has to "erace" man before it can "reform" him into its own image. It takes the actual multi-millennial record that can be documented and "reinterprets" it in ways deemed advantageous to the success of various "progressive" enterprises and schemes.

In short, we are invited/forced? to toss the rising generation into Alice's rabbit hole, to be taught to observe and wonder about the meaning of a universe that has been entirely subverted and "inverted" beyond direct human experience, common sense, and reason itself.

You put up such great posts, Kaslin! Thank you so very much!

11 posted on 03/18/2015 9:53:30 AM PDT by betty boop (Science deserves all the love we can give it, but that love should not be blind. — NR)
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To: betty boop

12 posted on 03/18/2015 11:04:51 AM PDT by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: Kaslin
And Arafat backed out, precisely because why? Arafat didn't want a solution. What's in it for anybody after there's a solution here? The road to riches is paved with no solutions. The road to fame, riches, notoriety, all of that comes from the struggle. If there is no more struggle, if there's no more disagreement, if there's, quote, unquote, peace -- that's another elusive concept -- then all these people fighting for it all of a sudden have nothing to do. It was very instructive. Clinton offered Arafat everything, and I think even threw in some goodies that Arafat hadn't asked for. Arafat ran away, didn't want any part of it.

So we're left with what is the inescapable reality, and that is that Israel is surrounded by people who want it gone. Israel is surrounded by people who want the Jews marched into the Mediterranean or nuked or in some other fashion destroyed.

And what happens if Israel is gone? It ends the conflict and produces a "solution". Then what?

Visualize the Israelis finally call it quits. (I know many think this will never happen, but bear with me on this hypothetical). The Israeli Jews get an offer to immigrate, en-mass, to the US, and they take the offer. The Palestinian Authority, Hamas, Jordan, Egypt, ISIS, and all the rest suddenly stop having Israel to blame for the lousy existence of their people. The dog has caught the fire engine. What now?

13 posted on 03/18/2015 11:39:13 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: betty boop; Kaslin; Alamo-Girl; marron; hosepipe; xzins; MHGinTN
Because the “progressivist insurrection” is not in any way, shape, or form based on Reality..

Precisely so, BOOP. And precisely the reason why the “Liberal” (by whatever name it may call itself at any given moment or at any given locality) Establishment greeted the “news” of Bibi’s defeat with such relish on the 17th, and were so dejected by the reality of the 18th. They can accept only a Liberal “truth” satisfying to them, and there will always be Hell to pay if any truth of reality dares contradict the “truth” of Liberal doctrine.

Thanks for the BEEP. Always welcome from you.

14 posted on 03/18/2015 11:41:05 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: PapaBear3625

And what happens if Israel is gone? It ends the conflict and produces a “solution”. Then what?


THEN the progressives NUKE ALL major populations of muslims to resolve the muslim “question”..

Progressives so far, for more than a century, have not balked at liquidating multiplied millions of useless eaters..
as many as 100 to 300 millions to date... (mass graves are hard to count)

ONLY one thing Worse than Muslim Hierarchy givernment..
THAT would be Progressive Hierarchy givernment..

Progressive being a code word for several related ideology’s.. basically “socialists”..


*** not to omit (from the conversation) the billions they made miserable..


15 posted on 03/18/2015 12:15:15 PM PDT by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: hosepipe
YIKES!!!!!!!!

The Red Queen!!! There he is....

16 posted on 03/19/2015 6:53:59 AM PDT by betty boop (Science deserves all the love we can give it, but that love should not be blind. — NR)
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To: betty boop
Progressivist ideology requires two things: (1) the Death of God; (2) the extinction of human history as relevant subject matter that one can draw on to inform the proper ordering of human society today.

Indeed. And as you say, the progressives have captured the public education agenda not to foster knowledge but to press their own agenda. In my view, their own agenda would result in the kind of world shown in the 1997 movie Gattaca where human perfection was defined and produced by the state and the imperfect by their definition were not tolerated at all.

Thank you so much for all your insights, dearest sister in Christ!

17 posted on 03/19/2015 8:51:43 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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