Posted on 09/10/2014 9:01:47 AM PDT by tcrlaf
Russia meets around a third of European gas demand, sending almost half of these supplies via Ukraine.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/09/10/ukraine-crisis-gas-poland-idINL5N0RB2KI20140910
Somebody got the siphon hose out?
Spin, comrade, spin.
Could be that is the situation. russia will have to abandon her pipelines in these nations and perhaps russia is prepared to do exactly that. Reverse flow. Would have to set up infrastructure quickly and certainly this was discussed early and a plan is in place. Sever at border with russia and russia is out of the loop if that is where russia wants to go. russia cannot be stopped on that point but less money is less money anytime and this would be a loss of income to russia even with the deal with china. china might be the replacement to loss of income but income is income and cutting off the west of russia is eventually a loss to russia. Certainly russia understands this or putin has made a decision and has decided he will take his stand and take a chance. If so, big chance is being taken. Don’t know where will lead and could be a chance rewarded but sometimes chances are not rewarded. putin has to be aware of this and has calculated ... but a chance taken that does not go a nation’s way can cause a Good-Bye that never returns. Huge risk.
Bundle up,Europe...and stand firm.The USSR 2.0 has nothing to threaten you with other than discomfort and nukes.And they’re not likely to use the nukes.We’ll help you.And remember,Comrade Putin & Pals need you far more than you need them!
I almost married a beautiful Polish girl but she was a singer and left me for a band. Sounds like the words to a song. LOL
That's nothing, you managed to combine Ukrainian policy and Neo Nazi Homo Fascists, well done!
Uh, that was you, comrade.
And I miss Laurence Welk.
Insufficient infrastructure for any other market to take up the slack this year/winter.
Very quickly would be about 5 years from now. This winter, next or the one after, not chance to meet that volume.
I also live in NJ, also spent some time in Russia and I completely agree with your thinking on these subjects. Please freepmail your AT persona name to me. I’d like to follow your posts.
If it magically rained all the right equipment and materials, and it all landed in the right spot, the amount of gas required to replace all that Russia now sells to Europe could not be produced for this winter. Where would the gas come from?
Anything is Possible. Just have to have the proper plan.
In the real world, it requires: cost, schedule and quality. Pick any two of those and I'll tell you the result for the third. And yes, non-functioning is a quality.
A moment ago was said by you five years now is up to a decade?
oh well ... guess people should give up and die ... that is one heck of a plan, ya got there ... LOL
5 years would be an insanely overpriced but possibly technically feasible.
What the industry would call a fast paced and maybe only double cost could be done in a decade.
I’d have to survey the ground and that has already been done. Pipelines are in place unless russia is prepared to blow them up. Course that would be an act of war. Pumps, Receive locations and game on.
They don’t need to give up, but if they want to plan going forward, it ought to be a plan with a possible outcome.
You can walk from New York to California, with a lot of effort and determination. Believing you can do that walk in 24 hours is just insanity.
Push hard, always strive for more, but live in reality. Part of that reality is, Russia can not operate as it is without selling most of that gas, and they don’t have another way to delivery anywhere else in that same time frame.
Russia can make it difficult and put pressure on the EU, to be applied then to the Ukraine. But they could not function, as they are, without most of that cash flow.
Notice my qualifier, as they are. They might choose some even less desirable options.
Distribution is not the problem. Sourcing the gas would be the problem.
They need to get cracking then!
oh btw ... most pumps are already in place ... receiver location are also ... next problem ... set up import? The import locations also are there. Another thought ... does anyone want to sell gas? russia wants to screw themselves, who is going to stop them? russia’s choice
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