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Fossilized Human Poop Reveals The Real Paleo Diet (Neanderthals)
BI - Reuters ^ | 6-26-2014 | Will Dunham

Posted on 06/26/2014 7:54:45 PM PDT by blam

Will Dunham, Reuters
Jun. 26, 2014

Don't laugh, but the discovery of the oldest known human poop is offering valuable scientific insight into the life of Neanderthals who lived in Spain some 50,000 years ago.

Scientists said on Wednesday they found five samples of human fecal matter at an archeological site called El Salt, in the floor of a rock shelter where Neanderthals once lived.

Analysis of the samples provided a new understanding of the diet of this extinct human species, offering the first evidence that Neanderthals were omnivores who also ate vegetables as part of their meat-heavy diet, they said.

The straight poop: Fossil feces is not merely prehistoric toilet humor.

"So far, it is the only fossil evidence that gives us information of the ingestion and the regular meals of our ancestors," said Ainara Sistiaga, a geoarchaeologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and University of La Laguna who was one of the researchers.

"Understanding the diet of past human species closely related to our own will help us gain perspective on our evolutionary constraints and adaptability," Sistiaga added.

The researchers examined the fecal fossils for biologically derived indicators of the types of food the Neanderthals ate.

Their findings indicate that Neanderthals predominantly consumed meat, as suggested by high amounts of one such "biomarker" called coprostanol formed by the bacterial reduction of cholesterol in the gut. But they also found evidence for significant plant intake as shown by the presence of a compound called 5 beta-stigmastanol, found in plant sources.

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KEYWORDS: dietandcuisine; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; paleohumans; science
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The more we learn about Neanderthals, the more like us they become.
1 posted on 06/26/2014 7:54:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Aw, sh!t!!


2 posted on 06/26/2014 7:56:12 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: All

“diet of this extinct human species”


3 posted on 06/26/2014 7:56:53 PM PDT by willywill
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To: SunkenCiv
The Neanderthal Theory


4 posted on 06/26/2014 7:58:01 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Where is the “Not this crap, again!” dude?


5 posted on 06/26/2014 7:58:21 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: blam

Those dates also baffle me. How were they determined? If you do the math, there would ne much more people living today if we have ben around that long.


6 posted on 06/26/2014 7:58:25 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: blam

Doesn’t surprise me one bit. I try to maintain a paleo-diet and most mornings it feels like I’m pooping a fossil...


7 posted on 06/26/2014 7:58:31 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: blam
Fossilized Human Poop

Apparently they ate a lot of dairy.
8 posted on 06/26/2014 8:01:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Mediteranean diet for me...lots of fish, poultry,nuts, olive oils, fresh veggies and some grain based carbs. Also red wine. No cheese or much dairy really...almond milk or Greek yogurt for me.


9 posted on 06/26/2014 8:03:19 PM PDT by gwgn02
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To: Fungi

>> “Those dates also baffle me. How were they determined?” <<

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They extracted them from the same location as the poop came from.


10 posted on 06/26/2014 8:04:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: blam

I know this as a (semi) serious subject and all but honestly, I want to know, more than about neanderthal science, how it is that at some point in a budding young mind a decision is made to make a career out of studying the feces of others.

Does one begin studying ones own feces and then, having developed a love for it, chase the family pet around the yard? Go on litterbox excavations?

how does this work exactly?


11 posted on 06/26/2014 8:05:56 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: editor-surveyor

Good one.


12 posted on 06/26/2014 8:06:12 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: blam

The guy in the second photo looks like the bums I see in downtown Seattle!


13 posted on 06/26/2014 8:07:18 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Fungi

Lie expectancy before invention of modern medicine was abysmally low. Food was scarce, shelter was brutal and medicines were non-existent. We are so dammmm lucky to be living in the current times.


14 posted on 06/26/2014 8:13:09 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst president ever, thanks to voters who abstained on election day!)
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To: blam

Wow, without a 7-11 on the corner, early humans had to eat whatever they could kill or forage.


15 posted on 06/26/2014 8:15:20 PM PDT by bgill
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To: blam

Their diet was terrible. They’re all dead.


16 posted on 06/26/2014 8:15:35 PM PDT by lurk
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To: blam

Or, we could phone Justice Ginsberg and ask her what she had for lunch.


17 posted on 06/26/2014 8:16:17 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: gwgn02

I drank almond milk for a while (and was eating almonds at the same time) until I realized my blood was so thin I was bruising like people on blood thinners. Vitamin E from the almonds stores up in your body. Have you noticed anything like that?


18 posted on 06/26/2014 8:17:30 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: blam

Just to try out my new tagline...


19 posted on 06/26/2014 8:17:30 PM PDT by MortMan (Fossil feces is not merely prehistoric toilet humor.)
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To: lurk

lol


20 posted on 06/26/2014 8:17:52 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: blam

Fossilized Human Poop


21 posted on 06/26/2014 8:21:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Girlene

I’m induging in carrot slices as a midnite snack. Try to eat a piece of fruit per day.


22 posted on 06/26/2014 8:22:08 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’ve always wondered who that first intrepid human(oid?) was who ate oysters.


23 posted on 06/26/2014 8:25:14 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Fungi

Not given the low fertility caused by the brutal conditions plus an extremely high infant mortality rate.


24 posted on 06/26/2014 8:26:20 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: workerbee

Go to Japan. you will never ask that question again. If it moves, the Japanese have a recipe. If it doesn’t they also have a recipe.

And if it used to move and does not anymore, I have seen a ‘dish’ with electrodes hooked up so that it does. And I am not remotely kidding.


25 posted on 06/26/2014 8:28:39 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: blam
Caveman photo: Caveman geico_l.jpg

"Really? No mango salsa? I question your research."

26 posted on 06/26/2014 8:29:16 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: editor-surveyor

Fung schwing, Fung schway = oriental saurkraut!!!


27 posted on 06/26/2014 8:29:34 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Obama is mad! He's getting madder with each crisis and now he's a real MADMAN with no temper left!!!)
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To: Fungi
"Those dates also baffle me. How were they determined?"

Perhaps they wiped with newspaper ;-)

28 posted on 06/26/2014 8:30:58 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I was thinking of Nick Nolte’s bum character in that film (the title of which I cannot recall) in which Bette Midler was running around yelling “call 911!”.


29 posted on 06/26/2014 8:31:41 PM PDT by skeptoid (the thought plickens)
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To: skeptoid

“Down and Out in Beverly Hills”


30 posted on 06/26/2014 8:32:23 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

That’s the one!


31 posted on 06/26/2014 8:34:45 PM PDT by skeptoid (the thought plickens)
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To: Ciexyz

Carrots - an excellent source for Vitamin A (vision, immune system, bones)

lol...you’re better than me...I had some cereal.


32 posted on 06/26/2014 8:36:55 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Apropos to nothing, for some strange reason the other day I got to thinking... the only cultures that don’t seem to have a native bread are the Japanese/Chinese, and perhaps Pacific Islanders. I know they have rice and noodles, but bread would pre-date that by a lot (I think?) Bread doesn’t have to be wheat-based, so why is that? Or am I just totally off?


33 posted on 06/26/2014 8:40:08 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Fungi
Those dates also baffle me. How were they determined?

Probably by radio-carbon dating. 50,000 years is getting close to the maximum you can measure with carbon dating. I saw a couple sites that said 60,000 years is the maximum because there isn't enough C14 to measure accurately.

If you do the math, there would ne much more people living today if we have ben around that long.

Except for those times when you lose half the population due to plague, starvation or a major Cro-Magnon ass kicking.

34 posted on 06/26/2014 8:41:04 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: blam

Just imagine the guy squatting there pinching that loaf, imagine what he would think if he knew that 50,000 years later people would be interested in his poop.


35 posted on 06/26/2014 8:46:30 PM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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To: workerbee

No clue there at all.


36 posted on 06/26/2014 8:51:49 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: blam
"Scientists previously have hypothesized that Neanderthals were largely carnivorous with perhaps some vegetables..."

Yeah, because only bears are smart enough to exploit all available food sources - hunting is so much easier.

And I didn't notice, but did they find some genetic marker to specifically link the poop to neanderthals? Just because they found neanderthal remains doesn't mean modern humans didn't use the same rock shelter at a later time.

37 posted on 06/26/2014 8:52:41 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: Girlene

Nope, never noticed that...I’ll research it though


38 posted on 06/26/2014 8:58:18 PM PDT by gwgn02
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To: workerbee

We wonder who first tried artichoke.


39 posted on 06/26/2014 8:58:51 PM PDT by hearthwench (Debbi - Mom, NaNa, and always ornery)
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To: hearthwench

People have been known to eat shoes, tree bark and grass during famines. I imagine most would be surprised at what they’d consider eating if they’d been without food long enough.

The really interesting cases are the foods that used to be all but inedible, but aren’t now. For example who was it that thought that the banana might be a good candidate for selective gardening? The original “banana” is tiny, full of seeds, and just about inedibly bitter. Ditto citrus, which also used to be small, tough, full of seeds, and horribly sour.


40 posted on 06/26/2014 9:09:03 PM PDT by Little Pig
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To: workerbee

Yes, you are totally off.

Before Europeans went everywhere, most places didn’t eat bread. No bread in South America. Corn cakes in Central and North America up to the cold line, Africa had few places with bread south of the Sahara. Ethiopia has a flatbread made of the local grain and there were similar ones west of there made of millet. The rice cultures generally didn’t have bread, except steamed ground rice flour. The northern peoples had flatbread made of ground barley and buckwheat. Grinding grain is hard, and hard on the teeth, too.

Rice culture is easy, the grain is edible if just boiled, and it provides lots of calories. Therefore, no need to develop a complicated system of milling just to eat. It is much older than bread.


41 posted on 06/26/2014 9:59:54 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Girlene
Excess vitamin E can kick a body's ass.

The older I get, the more I think the best way to eat is as close to the way God packaged it as you can reasonably get, and if you're not lactose intolerant, for heaven's sake, do dairy! It's up there with eggs as a source of intense good nutrition, from calcium to B12 protein. As for the egg white fad ... I bet you a million bucks that in the next ten or 15 years there'll be admonishment to be sure and include the yolk, to eat them together, for the best nutrition, that just eating the whites is throwing you off whack because it's missing a key nutrient factor. Just like too much soy throws you off whack.

The folks I know who are healthy pretty much eat food the way God presents it. They may fancy it up with great cooking, but milk is real milk, butter is real butter, meat is real meat, and fruits and veggies are straightforward. Elegant or fancy or plain, but non-processed.

That's just me.

42 posted on 06/26/2014 11:32:52 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: bgill

anything short of granite was food.


43 posted on 06/27/2014 3:52:05 AM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: Norm Lenhart
How Do Feces Get Fossilized?

The crappy origins of the archaeology of North America’s first people.

Yesterday, the journal Science reported the discovery in an Oregon cave of human DNA that is more than 14,000 years old. The DNA was extracted from coprolites, or fossilized feces. They represent the oldest human remains found in the Western Hemisphere.

44 posted on 06/27/2014 4:19:08 AM PDT by blam
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To: Finny
"The folks I know who are healthy pretty much eat food the way God presents it. They may fancy it up with great cooking, but milk is real milk, butter is real butter, meat is real meat, and fruits and veggies are straightforward. Elegant or fancy or plain, but non-processed. "

I agree and think doing so is good advice.
And, eat a lot more vegetables than meat because vegetables were/are easier to obtain.

45 posted on 06/27/2014 4:28:06 AM PDT by blam
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"I’m induging in carrot slices as a midnite snack. Try to eat a piece of fruit per day."

Years ago, I read about a guy in Florida who drank so much carrot juice that he got cirossis (sp) of the liver and died.

46 posted on 06/27/2014 4:31:38 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

At least he died healthy.


47 posted on 06/27/2014 4:32:35 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: blam
Hmmm...I would have expected more beef and broccoli...oh...what did you say? Human poop and not Hunan poop...sorry.
48 posted on 06/27/2014 4:51:23 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Finny

What you describe IS the way I eat (except for some snacks which are processed).

When I was drinking almond milk, I was trying to eliminate certain foods from my diet to see what was causing skin issues.


49 posted on 06/27/2014 11:29:54 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: Girlene
I wish I was as disciplined as you -- I eat a little bit more than "some" processed snacks!! *sigh* Cheez Its are a real weakness of mine ...!!!!!! And ANYTHING "Hostess" bakery!

Happily, I am not lactose intolerant and can drink real milk. I hope you have been able to pinpoint whatever is causing skin issues. One little miracle ingredient that has worked honest-to-goodness miracles on my skin is fresh-harvested (not bottled) aloe vera that I grow in my yard or harvest from other places. AMAZING STUFF!!!!!

50 posted on 06/27/2014 12:30:39 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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