Skip to comments.House GOP to attach Obamacare delay to CR
Posted on 09/28/2013 10:31:21 AM PDT by LostInBayport
House Republicans will vote to pass a one-year delay of Obamacare in exchange for funding the government, a plan that drastically increases the chances of a government shutdown this Tuesday.
The decision was announced by the GOP leadership in a closed meeting Saturday afternoon, according to sources present. Republicans will also pass a bill to fund U.S. troops if the government shuts down, according to GOP lawmakers. The Houses funding measure will keep the government open until mid December.
This puts Senate Democrats and the White House at loggerheads with House Republicans, a standoff that could lead to the first government shutdown since 1995.
Senate Democrats passed a bill to fund the government until Nov. 15, but kept intact Obamacare.
Weve had enough of the disunity in our party, Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) told the meeting of House Republicans Saturday afternoon. The headlines are Republicans fighting Republicans. This will unite us. This protects the people who sent us here from Obamacare.
House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said it would be the fastest whip check in history, as every member raised their hand, saying they would support the bill.
The House is expected to vote Saturday, sources say.
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And Cantor saying "this protects the people who us here from Obamacare" is just ridiculous. The cancer will still spread unless the law is DEFUNDED.
Lets start that conversation by acknowledging we arent going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants... bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society. Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors. [but hes not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
House Republicans will vote to pass a one-year delay of Obamacare in exchange for funding the government, a plan that drastically increases the chances of a government shutdown this Tuesday. The decision was announced by the GOP leadership in a closed meeting Saturday afternoon, according to sources present. Republicans will also pass a bill to fund U.S. troops if the government shuts down, according to GOP lawmakers. The Houses funding measure will keep the government open until mid December. This puts Senate Democrats and the White House at loggerheads with House Republicans...
“...drastically increases...”? I would say “hopefully increases”. Shut down the feds. The feds (with few exceptions) aren’t worth employing.
We have ALWAYS survived government shutdowns (about 17 times in recent history) - doing so is just a “bump in the road”. But, it is not the GOP who has been making the threat, and it is not the “vetted rebels” in the GOP that has made the threat - it has been the White Crib and the Senate Majority Leader who are really making the threat as a proxy for the GOP NOT making the threat. The Libs are trying to project the shutdown that they are threatening onto the GOPe.
Then shut it down!!!
Better to go down in to ruins relatively free than as a groveling slave.
“The cancer will still spread unless the law is DEFUNDED. “
There’s a whole lot of complexity here and behind the scenes maneuvering. If all of the House Republicans voted for it I believe it is a good move. In chess you’d like to immobilize the king in one move. But it seldom happens that way in real games. A lot of pawns are knocked over first. I hope they’re playing chess as Obama is playing checkers.
If this makes it through the Senate it will still be a powerful tool to run on in ‘14. Plus, there’s a chance that President Tin Ear will reject it. This puts further pressure on Democrats and it runs out the clock on funding, which is more a Dem problem than an Rep problem.
A one-year delay of Obamacare doesn’t fix a damn thing.....it needs to be killed and killed NOW, period.
For the next year we will be ini dated with stories of people that have died because of the “delay” and on and on.
If the republicans do not fund Obamacare, it will be Obama that shuts down the government.
These monkeys didn’t learn a damn thing from Cruz.
paul is a stinking RINO, if every republican stood strong it can be done!
“House Republicans will vote to pass a one-year delay of Obamacare in exchange for funding the government”
LOL! This isn’t even coherent.
The effort to keep up The Big Lie is starting to wear the media down, they’ll soon be suing their Dem bosses for repetitive motion disorder...
so...up to the next election, we will be seeing this “budget crisis” battled out every 3 months?
4 more huge opportunities for the Dems to parade their “victims” and threaten voters with non-existent cuts that will be blamed on the GOP.
Unions routinely “shut down” govt services like public education when they strike.
How come Dem groups can do this- but not millions of fed-up taxpayers?
Unions are NEVER attacked as “terrorists” for depriving kids of education - nor are Teamsters who strike, shut down nation’s ports!
Unions can “shut down” government, but never demand-side taxpayers, who are called “extremists” for boycotting massive insolvency, high costs, and fiscal mismanagement!!!!!!!!!!!!
ini dated = inundated
” Do you think that perhaps they are trying some sort of incremental strategy?”
In Judo if you’re pinned by a guy who weighs more you inch your forearms under you and move bit by bit until you can escape. I think that’s exactly what’s going on. If so, kudos to the R’s.
But it doesn't stop Republicans from making it an issue in the primaries or general.
Linsey Graham for instance will have to run on his vote for cloture and this extension will give us time to educate the American people on what that really meant. And even if they push past Oct vote, Republicans can raise hell over where these politicians ALREADY STOOD on Obamacare.
I’ve said the Republicans should do this only as a last resort, but you can add it to the litany. (Obama has already said he’ll veto a delay.)
“We tried to repeal Obamacare. We tried to defund it. We tried to make Congress live under it. We tried to give you, the working people, the same break that the Democrats gave Big Business. We tried to delay it. The Democrats stomped on each of these efforts, contrary to the will of the people. Vote them out. Give us control. We’ll do everything we can to end this program.”
Then DO IT!!!
The Republicans WON the 1995 shutdown. Nobody noticed anything different, there was no disaster as the Democrats predicted, Clinton was forced into signing welfare reform (which he had vetoed twice before), and we got a balanced budget -- at least, on paper. The Republicans gained 2 Senate seats.
Is this why the Establishment (in both parties) is so afraid of another shutdown?
Rand Paul has stood with Cruz, Lee, and the rest on defunding Obamacare and helped Sen. Cruz with his filibuster. He was very good on the drones. There are plenty of RINOs; let’s not start picking fights with one of the limited-government, constitutionalist Republicans.
You could all start by refusing to use the liberal/media creation “shutdown.”
It’s not a shutdown when all essential govt services continue operation.
It’s a SLOWDOWN.
Which is why we always survive them.
The perfect rarely happens.
At least now there will be a true referendum on Obamacare if there is a delay,now we know most of what is in it,so let the people decide,if you want the monstrosity then vote to keep the democrats in control of the Senate,and dump the house republicans,otherwise vote the republicans in and let them put a sock in it until the Marxist is gone,if we live that long
Delay is VICTORY!
There are only two choices: delay or implement now.
Delaying it allows to gather more support for repealing it.
If it gets implemented, we are all toast — see this article posted by KeyLargo:
Expecting ObamaCare’s Collapse Is Living In Wonderland
I understand, Kansas58.
I don’t believe that Obama will settle for any delay, so this will certainly be interesting.
If the Democrats shut down the government (which they will if they refuse to pass the continuing resolution), this is exactly what the House should do, and not just with funding for the troops - pass one individual bill after another to fund each section of the government and let Reid and the Democrats refuse to vote on or pass them on...this is the way to get control of the narrative that it is the Democrats keeping things shut down as they'd all be up and running but for them.
You are right! Force Reid to hold the line on this with all his arrogant obnoxious talk. Manchin Has already agreed to the delay. Put the heat on Mary Quite Contrary of LA and that clown from AK and all the other incumbent lefty senators up for reelection. Time is no their friend.
No it does not. The only chance of a government shutdown is if Prince Henry of Senate refuses to deal with the House bill defunding ZeroCare, or King Zero vetoes the bill. That is the ONLY way a shutdown would happen.
Repubs, stop letting the media define your course of action!!!!!!!
Only the supply-side, public unions can strike. Any time, any day, any duration, for any grievance.
Demand-side, concerned taxpayers, are NOT EVER ALLOWED to boycott or ‘strike,’ withhold payment for specific programs or services — even if that public “service” is demonstrated to be corruptly administered, overly costly, proven fiscally insolvent (lied about) - or simply incompetently designed, and massively mismanaged.
This will move implementation to after the election, but most people make their annual insurance elections in October of the prior year. (At least everywhere I’ve worked) Under the one year delay, millions of Americans will be broadsided by massive premium increases or losing their insurance altogether in October 2014, right before the midterms.
And the Narcissist will not be able to hold his temper. Obama will end up looking like a child having a tantrum.....he’s nearly there already.
Spot on and we need to send that message in emails to every voter we know. Get it out there.
This is a “compromise” that many Senate Democrats can live with. It splits their party into two camps - reasonable and Obamabots.
You are a steely eyed missile, man.
The devil’s in the details. What do they actually mean by “delaying Obamacare for a year?” Does it mean completely stopping people from signing up for it? Does it mean stopping the formation of the exchanges? Does it mean terminating all of the so-called “facilitators” or whatever they’re called? Does it mean an end to Obamacare advocacy ads on TV and radio? Does it mean a retraction of all the thousands of letters that have gone out to the insured terminating coverage or substantially raising premiums? I bloody well doubt it. Depending on the details, the term “delaying Obamacare for a year” could mean anything. Knowing the GOP, it will be a toothless phrase to appease their base
while Obamacare in reality goes marching on. “Delaying Obamacare for a year” must mean a complete and unequivocal cessation of any activities associated with this monstrosity. Anything short of that is just another scam.
The Dems are on a tight leash. Their constituency counts on that teat being there. Here in Illinois government checks are going out later and later. Who is more likely to feel the pain of a government slowdown - the productive class or the parasite class?
As a follow up question, which party relies most on which class?
This is great news for our side. Hold the line, stick it to the Dems.
Funny, I was fully alert in 1995 and I don't remember anything disruptive about that shutdown. Gosh, could it be that it was mostly noise from the left?
A one year delay will make it an issue again right before the election next year...next October with the election in December.
The 2.5 month funding, though, has me puzzled. Wouldn't that give them the chance to revisit funding through the back door? If not, then I don't understand why not, because funding ObamaCare requires a certain level of spending, and if that level of spending is not approved, then all heck will break out if Obama tries to move social security or defense money over to Obamacare funding.
My memory says it was passport offices at the time that everyone moaned about. You couldn’t get a passport, the waits were “awful”, and so and so had to go see a dying grandmother and couldn’t.
But passport offices really weren’t critical; the media just pushed them as critical.