Skip to comments.Hagel: Budget cuts could force Navy to sideline 3 aircraft carriers
Posted on 07/31/2013 1:40:46 PM PDT by ColdOne
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel warned Wednesday that the Pentagon may have to mothball up to three Navy aircraft carriers and order additional sharp reductions in the size of the Army and Marine Corps if Congress doesn't act to avoid massive budget cuts beginning in 2014.
Speaking to Pentagon reporters, and indirectly to Congress, Hagel said that the full result of the sweeping budget cuts over the next 10 years could leave the nation with an ill-prepared, under-equipped military doomed to face more technologically advanced enemies.
In his starkest terms to date, Hagel laid out a worst-case scenario for the U.S. military if the Pentagon is forced to slash more than $50 billion from the 2014 budget and $500 billion over the next 10 years as a result of Congressionally-mandated automatic spending cuts.
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And, while we're at it, de-fund Sex Deviates in the military, and we're back to where we SHOULD be.
Since nobody in this administration has the courage to actually USE our National Defense capability, let’s not worry about how many boats you can float. Ok?
Find some other Federal agency to lament the impacts of Sequestration, will you?!?!
The idiot in the WH and the ones that elected him are sure bringing that CHANGE he promised.
Hell, park ‘em all - what do we care - we’re a nation of adolescents now. I mean, as long as the checks keep commin’ (they will keep comming, right?)
How long before it ends up like Venezuela... more Admirals than warships?
Now, I say let it be.
If foreign countries want to jump in the middle of us while this POTUS is driving the boat, so be it.
Serves us right, serves his agenda.
Another effing politician in a job that is critical to our defense. Congressionally mandated budget cuts? Where is the Senate in there, where’s that two year old brat we call a President in there?
The truth is Hagel, yes ‘Congress’ is the House and Senate, but your mindset is “these f@cking Republicans in the House are making us mothball three aircraft carriers.
NO, you insipid little bastard, they are not. You could go back to Congress for more money, but your two-year old President would have your balls for it because he’d want several trillion dollars for entitlements, and the House would tell him to screw himself.
You got your orders Hagel, be a man, STFU and do your job you whiny ass politician.
Pass a budget first. In that budget we can discuss priorities.
Okay, then tell the Obama's that they have to cut one vacation from their schedule. That ought to solve the problem.
So, it's emphatically disingenuous when Hagel says he wants to reduce the number of aircraft carriers to help reduce the budget. Either way, they win, either way, America is being allowed to bleed to death.
Sideline three carriers? Don’t kid yourself. Obama would love any excuse to do it.
Hummmmmm, mothball three carriers or 3 million welfare
Damn....I’m really tired of this. You don’t give them what they want and they whine whine whine. They’ll backstab you, listen to all your calls, look at your email, Facebook, Twitter, your bank accounts, your regular mail, and I hear they’ve requested an extra finger slot from your proctologist when he does the ole finger wave.
I’m a mind to just let the whole damned thing burn, burn to the ground, and sit back and watch it on TV with a bowl of popcorn in my lap and a beer in my hand. There’s nothing worth saving up there in DC.
I’m giving Chuck grief because he’s whining and bluffing as a tactic against continued sequester.
I’ve been doing this Defense thing for over 42 years now, and you won’t find a bigger hawk. (got out of basic training 42 years ago this week)
Turds everywhere resent your implication.
“Another effing politician in a job that is critical to our defense. Congressionally mandated budget cuts? Where is the Senate in there, wheres that two year old brat we call a President in there?
The truth is Hagel, yes Congress is the House and Senate, but your mindset is these f@cking Republicans in the House are making us mothball three aircraft carriers.
NO, you insipid little bastard, they are not. You could go back to Congress for more money, but your two-year old President would have your balls for it because hed want several trillion dollars for entitlements, and the House would tell him to screw himself.
You got your orders Hagel, be a man, STFU and do your job you whiny ass politician.”
I guess it is OK if they are stuck in port. If we are attacked the aviators could land at NAS stations (I know its redundant) so it would be easier for them. Because Obama is all about making things easier.
Are they going to mothball them, or sell them to China? Or better yet, Homeland security?
Obama might sell them to the Chinese, the Chinese are building Aircraft Carriers now.
They can use them when they attack Taiwan or Japan, with Obama’s blessing.
NObama’s plan is coming to fruition.
Thanks Larry. If he’s bluffing, we’re together on this.
Hagel is a long ways from my favorite guy, however our military is beung dissembled at this time, and I’m very wary of it.
And for decent reason too...
UpChuck is being the same old douchebag that he was as a senator. Worst choice ever for SecDef. Panetta was less of a dick-licker for obama than he is.
I’ll bet if they cut just 25% off the bloated EBT giveaways instead, they would have more than enough money to fund whatever carriers and personnel we need.
As part of the Immigration debate, it was revealed that TracFone is in Senator Rubio's district in Florida (which is why he strongly supports it and helped put it into the Immigration bill.
Not that Obama does not deserve credit as well.
That would be “under the Obama sequester plan”
Anyone who dry dock 3 of our carriers is not a friend of America.
Might I add:
Allowed more domestic drilling for tax revenue
Allow keystone pipeline
Give corps a tax free holiday to bring rev back stateside
Drop corp tax rate below most other developed nations
Sell off U.S. land holdings
Repeal EPA regs that hamstring business
End carrer un-employment.
Oh, and a two year-moratorium on selling T-bills or until the budget is balanced.
There ya go.
Actually, corporate farm subsidies would cover the carriers several times over.
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Great. Let's cut those as well!
Well RINO Chuck, perhaps you need to find a way to cut some of the waste in the Navy. Start with cutting every faggot loving program there is. Then follow that up with cutting programs that waste money on that death cult, Islam.
They send Billions of our taxpayer dollars to the Sunni Muslims on their civil war Jihad.
Yet, Obama can bypass Congress and send Hamas $500 MILLION?
Me too-almost 50 years, now working in OSD as a furloughed GS-15. The cuts Hagel listed are worst-case:
Army to as low as 350,000 soldiers,
Marines to 150,000,
Air Force cut fighter squadrons and retire old bombers (Buffs? B-2s?—who knows—it’s the USAF!)
Navy to 8 CV strike groups.
Forces haven’t been that small since 1950. Remember what happened that year?
When America surrenders in a few years to China and the Islamist Caliphate, it will be a Third World country anyhow.
The surrender document would be in Spanish, of course.
And folks thought there was a hollow Army in the mid-70s!
Read the entire article. Army to 1950 force level. Air Force similar.
But, for the most part, the jobs, benefits and -- most of all -- the pensions will remain. But the whole thing will just serve less purpose because the government won't actually be doing much of anything.
I've recently been close to the federal workforce, and for those who haven't really seen them in action: you would be amazed. They do almost no work, they socialize all day, they organize softball leagues, golf outings, and morale-boosting picnics. They do this on your dime. During a time of sequestration and furloughs. It's staggering.
These people do not live in the real world. They are not productive. The thought doesn't occur to them. They show up because they want to get paid. End of story.
I'll throw in the caveat that I am not talking about the men and women in uniform who put themselves in harms way. No one questions their commitment or value. But the bureaucrats back home? Total waste.
Cuts? Cuts? You can't possibly cut as much as you ought to. Keep the cuts coming. Cut it all, man. I am sick to death of this parasitical beast we call the federal government.
Clear case— The cuts in personnel strength is UNIFORMED Army soldiers, not Dept of Army Civilians. It is the guys who fight to defend us.
So turn off your rant switch and do some thinking on what the state of the nation’s defense will be when the soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines are reduced to a level not seen since the beginning of the Korean War, 63 years ago. And that with an administration who doesn’t know how to keep our troops out of harms way.
1) Cuts in uniformed soldiers. This is a mistake. As I indicated in my post, no one doubts the value of these men and women.
2) Woefully insufficient cuts in government civilians. By and large, these people are unproductive parasites. It is a mistake not to make more cuts in these areas. There is waste, fraud, and abuse all over the place, and it will not get better until the number of government civilians is reduced to where they HAVE to perform efficiently.
I've been involved in Acquisitions. The goal here is "How can I spend $2B?" That's it -- start to finish. Actually accomplishing something of value is not really of interest to the government civilians I've seen. They need to spend money to justify jobs. They don't care if they have anything to show for it.
They hurt the warfighter.
1950 Force Levels for the Military — while trillions are spend on politically correct projects.
This is great news. The female pregnancy rate is 23% on these carriers. The homosexual perversion is beyond belief. Scrap them. Close the borders.
Yeah, that’s the answer, take them all out of service.
You need help, a shrink or Clozaril, probably both.
The US has 13 aircraft carrier groups — that’s more than the rest of the world combined. Even down to 9 or 10, that’s enough firepower to take ANYONE on...