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Sarah Palin Should Start a 'Freedom Party' (within the GOP?)
The Hill ^ | 07/01/13 12:13 PM ET | By Bernie Quigley

Posted on 07/01/2013 4:01:36 PM PDT by drewh

For the first time since the mid 1800s we hear today liberty voices rising from elected state officials including governors. But they're not in D.C.; instead they're in Kansas, Georgia, Michigan, Missouri and dozens of other states, making their own decisions on abortion, guns, constitutional law, ObamaCare, and practically everything.

But no leader yet emerges, and no center. It is, like Pirandello’s play, with actors in search of a theater and a leader.

Actually a leader is emerging: Sarah Palin. But new ideas need new forms to start again the conversation and bring in a new generation. For a fresh start, it should be distanced away from New York, D.C. and Los Angeles, which are all connected to a singular purpose. And it should leave out the decadent establishment press, described recently as “Versailles.” There is little journalism left, only the endless meanderings of adolescent irony, the wink, the nudge and knowing asides of insider jokes and caustic laughter.

There are more than 30 states culturally and politically related today in the center of the country speaking with a single voice. This is American heartland. A conference might be held to look toward a better and more representative future, because this is not about 2016 specifically, but the greater American future.

And regarding 2016, the big Eastern establishment money and influence will all line up behind New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) , and this time, they will not let go. But at every event, Palin brings the crowd to its feet. As a “constitutional conservative,” she could flip the establishment. Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-Ky.) filibuster suggests it is ripe for change. The Bob Dole don’t-trust-anyone-under-70 crowd and the insular Weekly Standard group, which talks so disagreeably to itself, would stay away. But Palin could take the day.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bringsanity; newparty; palin; patriot; republicanparty; republicans; restoresanity; rnc; sarah; sarahpalin; takecontrol; thirdparty
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To: grania

So you are against social conservatism and support the libertarians on border issues?


121 posted on 07/01/2013 10:16:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: ansel12
So your against social conservatism and support the libertarians on border issues?

I'm passionately against abortion and am opposed to the creepy extent to which the feds have taken over every aspect of our lives. I'd like a constitutional government, and I'd like the US to be self-sufficient again. But if we lose this battle on the invasion of the US, there's no coming back....we've lost the war. If that happens, the Republican Party deserves to go down in flames.

Of course I'd prefer a constitutionally conservative viable option to emerge. I'm not confident that's realistic. So, the best we can hope for is less federal government and more localism.

The 'pubs in the HOR have to stop this. I'm not the only one out here who will never vote for them again if they don't just scrap the thing...as Palin did say (I'll give her credit) if something comes out of the HOR, it's going to be rewritten and we lose.

122 posted on 07/01/2013 10:28:48 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania

You have ignored my posts on what the libertarian immigration policy is, so I’m going to post the full text of their immigration position. See if it is what you desire and support.


COMPLETE PLATFORM TEXT
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND CIVIL ORDER

IMMIGRATION:
THE ISSUE: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new “Berlin Wall” which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government’s policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.

THE PRINCIPLE: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.

SOLUTIONS: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.

TRANSITIONAL ACTION: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.


123 posted on 07/01/2013 11:20:44 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: ansel12

You don’t get what I’m saying. If we lose this issue it doesn’t matter what the immigration-invasion policy is....the US is gone.


124 posted on 07/02/2013 3:25:47 AM PDT by grania
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To: sergeantdave

There was a thread here a few weeks ago on the RSC. It perked my interest. It is lost, I couldn’t find it.

Some time after that thread I went looking and found the web site. It had no info on what was cooking on immigration.

As I recall the thread, the RSC has existed for a fairly long time but had a very few members. Over the years it grew and now has lot, in excess of a hundred, I think (457/170= 37%) If it can act single mindedly, it is a force that must beconsidered.

Many here are very narrow in their views and if any event or action does not precisely agree with Christ like purity to their view, it is dismissed. I have a wider view. There is not and will not be Christ like conservative purity in any legislation. Therefore, any tempering of legislation toward a conservative goal is good.

It seems the RSC can have a good effect.

The web site is thin, perhaps not even current. That means either lack of resources or playing cards close to the vest. Past success rather than current strategy seems to be the site use. There seems to be no chick counting in eggs in the nest. To me, that is a good use of the resource.


125 posted on 07/02/2013 5:04:35 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: grania

But surely you must see that the libertarian position on immigration quoted in post 123, is one of absolute self destruction, the worst possible.


126 posted on 07/02/2013 7:22:01 AM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: grania
If we lose this issue it doesn’t matter what the immigration-invasion policy is....the US is gone.

Which issue?

127 posted on 07/02/2013 7:24:01 AM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: ansel12
Which issue?

Immigration, the fundamental demographic transformation of the country.

128 posted on 07/02/2013 7:27:00 AM PDT by turducken
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To: ansel12
Which issue? The issue that the HOR 'pubs have to stand firm and not negotiate on a "new improved" immigration bill. Just don't bring it to the floor. Anything firm in it will just be gutted or declared unconstitutional by some court, and we'll be stuck with the invaders.

There are plenty of laws on the books to get the invaders out of the US, secure our borders, and punish employers for hiring invaders and other unnecessary non-citizen labor.

129 posted on 07/02/2013 7:28:31 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania; turducken

OK, then just remember post 123, libertarians are the worst on immigration.


130 posted on 07/02/2013 8:37:50 AM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: ansel12

Well I am leaving the GOP and Marco Rubio....Put the Freedom Party inside the GOP and let them elect one conservative to run against the rhino...


131 posted on 07/02/2013 12:23:21 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: alloysteel

A faction that will need all of the tools of an actual party to itself, and even their own ballot spots should they be needed.


132 posted on 08/04/2013 8:46:55 PM PDT by GeronL
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