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To: ansel12
So your against social conservatism and support the libertarians on border issues?

I'm passionately against abortion and am opposed to the creepy extent to which the feds have taken over every aspect of our lives. I'd like a constitutional government, and I'd like the US to be self-sufficient again. But if we lose this battle on the invasion of the US, there's no coming back....we've lost the war. If that happens, the Republican Party deserves to go down in flames.

Of course I'd prefer a constitutionally conservative viable option to emerge. I'm not confident that's realistic. So, the best we can hope for is less federal government and more localism.

The 'pubs in the HOR have to stop this. I'm not the only one out here who will never vote for them again if they don't just scrap the thing...as Palin did say (I'll give her credit) if something comes out of the HOR, it's going to be rewritten and we lose.

122 posted on 07/01/2013 10:28:48 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania

You have ignored my posts on what the libertarian immigration policy is, so I’m going to post the full text of their immigration position. See if it is what you desire and support.


COMPLETE PLATFORM TEXT
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND CIVIL ORDER

IMMIGRATION:
THE ISSUE: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new “Berlin Wall” which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government’s policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.

THE PRINCIPLE: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.

SOLUTIONS: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.

TRANSITIONAL ACTION: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.


123 posted on 07/01/2013 11:20:44 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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