Japanese mayor: Wartime sex slaves were necessary [OK, FR Ladies Get Angry]

So . . . these e—vil “financial interests” who “caused” World War II . . . they wouldn’t happen to be “Jewish bankers,” would they?

The Communists and the Japanese, however, have been protected by political correctness (the former because they're commies, the latter because they're not white) and have never faced up. Several of the former Soviet bloc countries are governed by their former Communist parties. In Japan there is no law against historical revisionism or the old militarist ideology.

In the case of the Japanese, I don't think it's got anything to do with political correctness. The Japanese felt they weren't doing anything new. They were using medieval rules of war because that's the only way you can control huge swathes of territory in a short period of time without losing too many men. China is a shining example of how medieval rules of engagement prevailed over the centuries. Since its start as a small kingdom on the banks of the Yellow River, the Chinese (and every other) empire has expanded the usual way, by punishing those who resist and rewarding those who comply, in ways that are considered verboten, mainly by the established powers.

The reason we bowed to Japanese sensitivities had nothing to do with political correctness and everything to with the possibility that they might turn communist. We portrayed the Japanese as subhuman via wartime propaganda, and interned hundreds of thousands of dual-national Japanese at home, so political correctness was the least of our problems. Meanwhile, flesh-and-blood German American saboteurs were arrested, but only a handful of German Americans were interned.

Ultimately, the Japanese support these politicians because the Japanese see China as the empire that succeeded because it started a little earlier, and European colonies in the Western hemisphere as pretty substantial examples of what can be achieved with medieval rules of conduct. Ultimately, they're not wholly convinced by what they consider foreign hypocrisy about empire-building, which they think runs along the lines of "I've got mine, so screw you".

I'm not so sure about that. Japan's ideology (to its credit) was not anti-Semitic (though there were anti-Semites in the Japanese government under the influence of Nazi propaganda), but I'm pretty sure the Japanese regarded the Chinese as "sub-human."

Ethnic prejudice will always be with us. The mayor whose controversial statements are the subject of this article comes from Japan's subhuman class, the burakumin. FDR, along with the majority of Americans of his time, undoubtedly saw the Japanese he interned as subhuman. The difference with the Germans is that they attempted to kill every last one of the people they considered subhuman, along with everyone they thought might have just a smidgen of subhuman blood. The Japanese never tried to exterminate the Chinese. They targeted hostile regions with chem and bio-weapons, but these were populations they would have attacked with conventional weapons, anyway.

It’s a financial group, not an ethnic or religious group.

You know there are Dutch people who actually will abuse other Dutch people, Americans who will abuse other Americans, etc. Money can be the tie that binds people together into all sorts of wickedness, even to the point of them hurting not only those of their own ethnic or religious persuasion, but even family, neighbors and friends.

The works of Antony Sutton are a good place to get some information on Anglo-American industrial and financial records of involvement will Nazi Germany both before and during the war.

When researching for the pieces of conspiracy theories that are not disinformation - or entertainment - but are actual historical fact, it’s vital to focus only on what is documented facts. There is definitely a ton of completely false information out there which is used to obfuscate the truth of various facts. Once people see a few false statements in a given tract, they tend to throw out the baby with the bathwater and extrapolate that every statement in the tract is false, including those few that were true, damning evidence. The next time they see another tract with the same true damning evidence - they then dismiss that whole tract as well, because they think the “story” they first read was a falsehood - it’s very difficult to switch to believing something is true if you’ve believed it’s false - and preposterous - for a great deal of time.

That being said, those darn facts do have a way of upsetting our view of history !

I know I’ve found some just a very few simple facts that really turned many ideas that I held close to my heart on their head. I read about WWII battles as a very young boy and was very passionate about that phase of American history. I can’t help but feel grateful devotion to Americans who are combat veterans. I guess that’s why some of these simple facts bother me so much. Of course, feeling lied to is ok for a minute, but then I figure it’s time to get to the truth, understand it piece by piece and then put these pieces out there for public consumption. If something I find is proven false, I admit it, immediately ! Why pretend that a lie is true ? It only continues to hurt instead of help. I think Mr. Sutton’s work does a good job of simply stating facts that he discovered in his research - and there quite a few assertions of his that I don’t feel I can take as 100% reliable simply because I have not verified his citations. The documents he cites that are easily verifiable, of course, I tend to grant that those are verifiable as I try to come to conclusions of my own.

Just to scrape the tip of the disinformation iceberg...

do you have a solid knowledge of who FDR was and what he was all about ? That is, his business relationships over his whole career, not just his Presidential career, as well as his family background.

The perception of FDR that has been fed to Americans is a fantasy whitewash.

FDR, along with the majority of Americans of his time, undoubtedly saw the Japanese he interned as subhuman.

FDR didn't like the Japanese, that's true. Nor did he like the Germans. He was a Roosevelt, and Theodore Roosevelt didn't like the Japanese or the Germans either (Teddy was screaming against "the Hun" practically the moment World War I began).

Both Roosevelts were interventionists with regard to both the economy and foreign policy, yet because he was a Republican Teddy is considered a "jingo" and a super-patriot, while FDR is considered a traitor and an "internationalist."

You make a good point about Japan merely doing what the West had done for generations. However, most of those Western nations eventually came to abjure their former behavior. Japan's behavior during World War II--not its going to war, but its behavior during the war--is unjustifiable. However, I recognize the fact that during this "ethical evolution" some countries were frozen out of the colonial adventure while the nations that came to be "enlightened" nevertheless kept all the colonies they had won by similar means. I recognize the hypocrisy, but this doesn't justify the Rape of Nanking or the Bataan Death March.

I hope you understand that I am not anti-Japanese (there was a time when I advocated rearming Japan myself). I also support them against China (a nation entering on the same rapacious path but which will never be called on it due to its nominal "Communist" status making it immune to liberal judgment). I just recognize that there are always unforeseen consequences. A reawakened Japanese militarism combined with historical revisionism is not a consequence anyone wants.

I have no use for Franklin Delano Roosevelt, although I do observe that he wasn't in any sense a cultural radical. In fact, the America of FDR was more conservative than the America of Ronald Reagan.

Antony Sutton was a great researcher. I have one of his books. However, Antony Sutton didn't believe in standard conspiracy theories and actually criticized them.

From 1977 to 1981 I was a member of the John Birch Society. I started out as gung-ho as you can imagine but I came to see some very ugly things about them. My experience has turned me off on conspiracy theories--especially those theories that blame "communism" on "banksters" and which advocate nationalization of the financial sector. I hope you will understand, even if you don't share, my concerns. I appreciate that you are not an anti-Semite.

... the Japanese, who targeted only the populations that rebelled against them.

Not really true. Sure, invading armies kill those who resist, but 1) resisting is different from rebelling, and 2) a lot of those "populations" included women and children.

To say, the Japanese weren't as bad as the Nazis in WWII isn't really saying much. Just about anybody was better than the Nazis. What does that have to do with Japanese conduct in the war? It's not like they were fighting Nazis.

The Nazis can say they were sorry, but the "sorry" doesn't really cut it when you've systematically wiped out tens of millions out people way outside of even medieval rules of conflict.

That's a pretty off-the-wall comment as well. Where were the Nazis who said "sorry" and who here made reference to them? Maybe you've got personal reasons for going where you went, but it doesn't change the Japanese record in the war.

Japanese troops were issued male enhancement devices, think suction, because some of the troops didn’t “measure” up.

However, Antony Sutton didn't believe in standard conspiracy theories and actually criticized them.

Of course, one must separate truth from falsehood, as well as admit to oneself when something is uncertain. If I keep getting flat tires, it may be the neighbor's kids, or it may be due to the fact that my tires are baloney skins. Yes, one must simply filter out evidence that is not solid; if not sure, then "set aside" for a second look later, but never simply "assume" what one reads is true.

...John Birch Society. I started out as gung-ho as you can imagine but I came to see some very ugly things about them.

I read some of their stuff, but I've never belonged to any "organization" other than churches, Little League, Boy Scouts, etc. I have seen really bad things done by people in those groups, but they did not turn me off on the Bible, baseball, the outdoors, etc. I read the Birch stuff, got what I could out of it, read other stuff and compared and contrasted. I was able to make use of only pieces and parts.

My experience has turned me off on conspiracy theories

But hopefully not on the truth. The word conspiracy is now interpreted so negatively, it's come to be synonomous with the word lie. But of course, there is such a thing as conspiracy, it is used to desribe certain crimes, i.e., when two or more people conspire to commit a crime. A conspiracy is usually difficult to prove because the actions of more than one person, over time, have to be considered all together in order to understand the planning and execution of the crime; no one person by themselves took on all the planning and execution, the conspirators shared the criminal tasks involved. Of course, criminal conspiracies are sometimes investigated and brought all the way through to conviction or plea deal.

especially those theories that blame "communism" on "banksters"

I thought the idea was nuts, but I can't argue with history. It's difficult to square up Wall Street / Federal Reserve guys going to Russia on a "Red Cross" mission, I can't square the Ford plant built in Russia, etc. Once you get to a whole laundry list of the same pattern of activity, and the same names keep turning up - as well as the same organizations - at some point to deny the cooperative effort is to put one's head in the sand ("I just want the Wall Street in my mind to go back being the one I grew up hearing about"). I can't tell you how cool it was the first day I went to work on Wall Street as a programmer. As an entrepreneurial type from practically birth, I was extremely pleased to be there; I liked everything about it. It makes absolutely no sense at all to me from a business perspective, then, when I find out that there could be any connection whatsoever with anything left-leaning on Wall Street. I was really "shocked", and not like Claud Rains was. But then again it's difficult for me to see business from the perspective of a monopolist, not having a monopoly myself (other than the game, and I always wanted to be the hat).

I hope you will understand, even if you don't share, my concerns. I appreciate that you are not an anti-Semite.

If your concerns are persecution, the tables have turned on the remnant of Christians that still hold to the doctrinal standards of the "Pilgrims", who are seen as anathema by the pagan secular humanists who now control the America that they significantly influenced for perhaps only three generations. Such Christians hold that the Old Testament moral law - as written - was never abrogated and applies to all people. The Reformation came about from people actually "thinking" about what they were saying, believing and doing, seeking the truth, and conflicts ensued. America has rejected the Old Testament moral law, and its government now views the religion of its founders as its enemy; it rejoices in its filthy sin and increasingly persecutes all who place Biblical law over civil law, in the manner of ancient Rome. America's leaders are bringing judgement upon it.

Though we would perhaps disagree on the application of "ceremonial" law, true believing Christians are exhorted in the Bible to get along with everyone else, to the extent it is up to them (of course, staying obedient to Scripture). While we see no exceptions to the moral law, persecution of anyone, therefore, is sinful without a doubt. Christians went through hundreds of years of conflict over, among other things, doctrine relating to true conversion (for instance the "U" and "I" in Jean Calvin's TULIP), and the fact that man does not, and can not, convert others or even himself. I actually found that an ancestor was born "after" the escape as opposed to "before", i.e., if the escape was not successful, the ancestor might not have been born. Not a day goes by that these things do not spring to mind, and I find myself praying about the hard-learned lessons regarding the necessity to live according to Scripture. Of course, there are always the blessings of perseverance and faith of which we should remind each other and offer encouragement.

And you wonder how the Chinese might have a little bit of “resentment” towards Japan? Thanks for the reminder ‘Gator...

we could hope but I hear in Japan, this is common thinking because schools do not teach accurately about Japanese wartime atrocities.

Joe Biden has done much worse ~ he’s definitely hard to imagine ~ too real if you ask me.