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Does a Decline in Morality in a Country, Harm the Economy?

Posted on 04/27/2013 10:39:30 AM PDT by pinochet

Conservatives often like to divide themselves into economic conservatives who care about the economy, and social conservatives who care about moral issues.

But the mother of the post-war conservative movement, Phyllis Schlafly, says that both issues are linked, and that a decline in moral values harms a nation: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/schlafly-gop-establishment-gave-us-losers-dole-mccain-and-romney

Schlafly quoted from the article:

(Schlafly said the establishment wants candidates that “will only talk about economic issues” and not social or moral issues or even national security issues". “And that’s such a terrible mistake, because those social issues are the cause of the fiscal issue, and they are the issues that get to the heart of people--issues like life and marriage,” Schlafly said.)

The 50 million Americans who have been aborted since 1973 would be providing tax revenue for the country, and helping to fund the social security system for retired Americans. Americans would not require third world immigrants to do their work for them, and who (e.g. Muslims) bring problems of dual loyalty.

By the way, the fertility rate, or the number of children Americans need to replace themselves, has fallen below replacement. A country needs a fertility rate of 2.1 children to replace themselves, but America is having 1.9 children and falling. America is dying demographically, just like Europe: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/12/us-births-decline/1880231/


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: economy; morality; phyllisschlafly; socialconservatives; vanity
Imagine if all those women in the internet porn industry, were married and raising children. The future of America would be bright. Dr. Kermit Gosnell's trial has indirectly revealed why the economy is so messed up. May God have mercy on America.
1 posted on 04/27/2013 10:39:30 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet
...if all those women in the internet porn industry, were married and raising children.

--and all the guys using their computers were able to go back to typing with both hands...

2 posted on 04/27/2013 10:47:34 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Clean up your mind already


3 posted on 04/27/2013 10:51:01 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: pinochet

I’d say yes to the title question, assuming we are talking about morals that arise from a Judeo-Christian ethic. It might be great to abandon, say, Nazi morals.


4 posted on 04/27/2013 10:52:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: pinochet

Anybody who believes in the God of the Bible would answer, “Yes”.


5 posted on 04/27/2013 10:57:57 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: pinochet

Look at Europe.


6 posted on 04/27/2013 11:40:19 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: pinochet

A just, free society and economy can’t exist without a god-fearing people. That’s just a fact.


7 posted on 04/27/2013 11:54:48 AM PDT by grimalkin (Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God. -G.K. Chesterton)
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To: pinochet
Phyllis is correct when she describes the economy and social issues being connected and this is why:

Our Founders wisely termed our rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness as being the most important and unalienable, meaning they were given to us by God and because of that no man could claim to give them to us nor can they take them away.

Now, these three core freedoms, are highlighted in the preamble in such a way as to mean that they are essential to all the other freedoms.

In fact, all of our other freedoms, which are outlined as amendments to the Constitution are there expressly to protect our core freedoms of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

Life is that right given by God which enables us to protect ourselves and our families from harm, etc. Life is our social connection to society.

Liberty is that right given by God to ply our trade, feed our families, etc. Liberty is our economic connection to society.

Now, pursuit of happiness had a specific meaning in our Founders time, which is still true, although its meaning has been obscured. The real meaning is not being able to do whatever you want because it makes you happy. The idea of the "Pursuit of Happiness" means the ability to pursue a virtuous life so that when you come to the end of your life you will be able to meet that end result which is happiness with God.

The pursuit of happiness is living a virtuous life and it is our connection to God.

So, these three core freedoms are necessarily connected to each other.

To separate one is to dislodge them all.

When they are dislodged from each other no amount of amendments can help.

Obamacare is specifically designed to shatter our core freedoms.

8 posted on 04/27/2013 12:10:03 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: pinochet

I think a look at conditions today pretty much answers that question.


9 posted on 04/27/2013 12:10:41 PM PDT by albionin
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To: pinochet

As the good rabbi said on Glenn Beck last night: capitalism is based upon prosperity through SERVICE. The greater one services his fellows, the greater his prosperity. By contrast, collectivism is based upon claiming inequity, unfairness, and then depending on the gov to alleviate hurts.


10 posted on 04/27/2013 12:33:32 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Hey, you’re the one that couldn’t stop talking about all the porn ladies & what you want to see them doing & all...


11 posted on 04/27/2013 1:21:05 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: pinochet
social issues are the cause of the fiscal issue

What is causing the economic decline in America is the excessive amount of government spending which is funded by enormous budget deficits, which have to be financed by confiscatory taxation, heavy borrowing, and inflation. All of these factors are both an enlargement of government consumption and an assault on saving, investment and productive expenditure by the private sector, which impedes accumulation of capital and impedes growth of real wages.

And the factors that are causing the growth of government spending are social justice and the welfare state, which leads to the growth of government intervention in the economy.And what leads to social justice and the welfare state is the destructive morality of altruism and collectivism.

12 posted on 04/27/2013 1:34:55 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Not sure what you were saying there, but social liberalism creates liberal economics.

The more people decline in their moral lives, the more likely they are to vote for more government and more self serving redistribution programs.


13 posted on 04/27/2013 1:47:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult)
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To: ansel12

Rather retarded question. You turn your back on God and we get what we have today. So simple.


14 posted on 04/27/2013 2:13:09 PM PDT by lu shissler (an take his naiv)
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To: pinochet

Of course it does.

What goes around comes around.

If you pull one thread of the nation’s fabric, it all unwinds eventually.


15 posted on 04/27/2013 3:03:29 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Jack Hammer

bump


16 posted on 04/27/2013 3:05:33 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: pinochet

There is no economic conservatism without moral conservatism. Folks who haven’t learned that, yet, will learn soon enough through further economic collapse.


17 posted on 04/27/2013 3:25:33 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: pinochet
It costs America plenty in lives, souls and money (as statistically shown here ) - far more than the war against terror; and which war against God will bring terror.
18 posted on 04/27/2013 4:18:55 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: expat_panama

Another lie?


19 posted on 04/27/2013 8:29:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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