Skip to comments.Senators to announce background check deal (11am presser Manchin and Toomey)
Posted on 04/10/2013 5:23:52 AM PDT by Perdogg
Two key senators have reached a deal to expand background checks to firearms sales at gun shows and on the Internet, sources close to the negotiations said early Wednesday.
Sen. Pat Toomey, a conservative Pennsylvania Republican, plan to announce the deal Wednesday with West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, who holds an A rating from the National Rifle Association.
The two have been working on a compromise proposal that could draw Republican support for expanding background checks. On Tuesday evening, the two had an agreement in principle, and spent the night hammering out the final details.
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Background checks that will suddenly be unavailable at the time of the show, shutting down sales and bankrupting the tour companies. Once they gone, no more problem. This is not a debate, it’s a declaration of war.
On Tuesday evening, the two had an agreement in principle, and spent the night hammering out the final details.
I can believe these two spent the night together hammering.
Which was the hammer and which the nail?
This guy stated his support for the homosexualization of the military before coming to office in 2011. And now he's making side deals with Satan's legions on gun control.
I disagree. This is a camel’s nose.
NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE PREVENTED NEWTOWN.
THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS CLEAR!
This remains to be seen but a bill like that would give cover to defeat Reids bill.
Its been noticed as soon as McConnnell came out for filibuster a bunch of GOP Senators announced they wouldnt join it.
Tyrant Kim Un Hussein must be very pleased that his efforts to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA are progressing so easily.
The backstabbing "leadership" is damaging the Republican "Brand". Hey guys, This is not about branding, we do that to cattle. We are not cattle or sheeple. It is time to Stand. Either Stand and deliver or be replaced.
And rat-bastard Joe Munchkin, and his greek chorus in Leftist Big Media will continue to use that "A" rating from the NRA as a platform to excuse whatever unconstitutional anti-gun rubbish he pukes up.
Congratulations, NRA. You're giving cover to a domestic enemy of the Constitution. You're giving cover to gun control. You're giving cover to the further degradation of the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms.
See? I TOLD YOU SO!
Can someone explain to me why if they want to do a background check whether I should be able to buy a gun, why do they need to know the type of gun - let alone the serial number?!!? Is the check on me or the gun.......
AWR Hawkins said last week that Blumenthal will introduce ‘poison pills’ in order to kill the bills.
Any thing that passes the Senate will get watered down in the House.
The Democrats will blow this one.
Background chexks which will exclude anyone who ever took a sleeping pill. Background checks which will help to make it easy to find the legal gun owners in order to confiscate their weapons.
The left laughs us off-hahahaha!-everytime we say they’re sneaking up to total confiscation. But they keep on doing the things which will lead to it. Just like in other countries where the “citizens” have been disarmed. I can’t tell you how many times on an internet forum, someone from another country, even someone with mildly leftist/socialist views, has told me that they envy us our 2A. Especially EU countries where they’re losing their sovereignty to faceless bureaucrats in Brussels.
arlen sphincter re-incarnate
Yes, folks, the all-holy NRA gave an "A" rating and its endorsement to a rat-bastard DEMOCRAT who wants to register all your guns.
The article doesn’t say the NRA supports what Manchin is doing, it only says that Manchin has an A rating for his past positions on gun control. This article doesn’t say the NRA has sold us out (yet).
What was not said was that our freedom is "imperiled." Of course freedom is an alien concept to the garbage who write this stuff.
That’s why I joined Gun Owners of America instead.
“at gun shows and on the Internet, sources close to the negotiations said early Wednesday”
Gee, does that mean I can just go on Gun Broker today and buy a gun without going through a check? Must be because why would we need to include checks in a bill now if that was already the case?
Is ANYONE surprised at this?
that is what I have been recommending as it hurts O much more if its his failure versus just blocking it(which seems doomed to fail now anyway) , or obviously if he gets a bill that really does much.
Internet sales? I don’t believe you can buy a gun on the internet without going through a dealer. Have I been missing something or is some legislator or perhaps a reporter ignorant?
Now, Rat-Bastard Joe Manchin and his enablers in Leftist Big Media are using that rating and endorsement as cover for their gun-control bills.
Thanks for giving them cover, NRA. Well done.
I've been saying for 3 years it was a bad idea.
I WAS RIGHT!
Don't try to defend the indefensible, don't try to pretend that NRA didn't f@@k this up badly, and don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
HEY NRA! QUIT ENDORSING LIBERAL DEMOCRATS!
Any republican outside of the Nanny States who votes for this bill might as well start claning out his/her office.
They'll probably have some lame excuse as to why the NRA did the right thing in rating these anti-gunners "A" I've noticed over the years that there are a lot of posters on this forum who are not in the least conservative.
I'm a member of both. Also JPFO and the West Virginia Citizens Defense League.
NRA gets no money beyond my dues, though. I really don't trust NRA/ILA not to stab me in the back
The line I ususally hear is that it gives NRA 'leverage'.
So ... where's that leverage?
I expect an NRA "A" rated Senator to be a leader in preserving and recovering our RKBA. Rat-Bastard Manchin is a leader in eroding our RKBA.
I would like to see what he is proposing before I join the calls for the 20 state GOP.
I’m holding my breath for the day GOA sells out. It seems these days that everyone on the right has a price. I know that sounds awful, and I hope they never do, but I just can’t be surprised anymore, I don’t believe.
I don't think they have any idea how disgusted the mainstream (former) republicans are.
gads I hate the term “presser” ick yuck patooie
I heard one of the proposal will be to exempt all family transactions from background checks and the other will have to do with extremely limited record keeping, if any at all.
Makes a good tagline
On the scale of most to least conservative, I'd rank libertarians and constitutionalists as more conservative than most so-called conservatives. What I've noticed is that there are a number of people who seem moderate or even liberal in their views.
A couple of months ago I got into it with some tootsie roll who said that I had to have been in a mental institution because I opposed background checks. I told her Nope, that was just the price of freedom - that if you have to ask the government's permission it is no longer a right. You don't have to ask anyone's permission to exercise a right. She failed to reply - probably went off to have a good cry.
Another poster -one "spunkets?" called me a parasite because I called welfare recipients parasites.
What I can't understand is why these people don't just stay on DU. That's where they belong. I don't post on DU because I don't think like they do. Why post here if you're going to espouse the socialist/statist point of view.
Toomey used conservatives to get a seat in a Senate. He sold himself as the opposite of Arlen Specter, but he’s well on his way to becoming a clone. This isn’t the first issue on which he’s caved. Here’s a January 1, 2013 reference to his sell-out on the Obama tax increase:
I think the only appropriate response to these senators is that of Mr. Garrison, from the animated cartoon show, South Park.
“Go to HELL! Go to HELL and DIE!”
How do they define “family”. Will it include my brother-in-law whom I hunt and shoot with? How about my 2nd cousin down the dirt road that I hunt and shoot with? Or will it be the BIG CITY definition. Wife-Wife, Husband-Husband etc?
They practice Failure by Choice.
A national database on gun owners is what King Obamagabe has always wanted. Any republican or democrat that caves to this attack on the attack on the 2d Amendment is to be voted out of office. Gun confiscation is what it’s all about folks, plain and simple.
If King Barry wants this so bad, then King Barry should set an example for his subjects and submit to the same background check he wants for the rest of us. And he needs to release the results.
If he doesn’t pass, we need to take the nuclear football away from him.
Suddenly, gun shows will become 100% personal transactions.
I’ve bought my weapons from private parties for years and will continue to do so. The federal government will not have my name on any registry. They can kiss my ass.
You buy a gun online and they send it to an FFL near you.
You then go there, do the paperwork and pick it up.