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Low Magnesium Linked To Heart Disease [magnesium overlooked as the MAIN FACTOR in heart disease]
Medical News Today ^ | Kelly Fitzgerald

Posted on 04/06/2013 8:39:15 AM PDT by Bulwinkle

Low magnesium levels have been found to be the best predictor of heart disease, contrary to the traditional belief that cholesterol or saturated fat play the biggest roles....

(Excerpt) Read more at medicalnewstoday.com ...


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KEYWORDS: disease; heart; heartdisease; magnesium; medicine; mg
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I've been taking mag regularly since I tore my hamstring in 2001...
1 posted on 04/06/2013 8:39:15 AM PDT by Bulwinkle
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To: Bulwinkle

What kind have you been using? Not necessarily the brand, but is it a chelate?


2 posted on 04/06/2013 8:40:27 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: Bulwinkle

I use Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) to fertilize my garden & flowers. It’s a lot cheaper than than Miracle gro and whatnot.


3 posted on 04/06/2013 8:42:00 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Bulwinkle

Dr. Oz is frothing at the mouth. He’ll know what we should buy.


4 posted on 04/06/2013 8:42:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Bulwinkle

Foods high in magnesium
http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/foods-high-in-magnesium.php


5 posted on 04/06/2013 8:42:32 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: P.O.E.

I discovered that recently for the roses. Wow they bloom like crazy.


6 posted on 04/06/2013 8:43:03 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Bulwinkle

I’ve just started taking it. After reading this, I’m making sure my husband is taking it too!


7 posted on 04/06/2013 8:43:49 AM PDT by dragonblustar (2 Peter 3:18)
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To: mnehring

I find myself using vinegar, ammonia, baking soda and bleach for house cleaning (not together, of course)- beats the cost of the big name brand cleaners.


8 posted on 04/06/2013 8:45:44 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: mnehring

I depend strictly on bacon for all my nutritional needs. Whether or not it works, I don’t know. But I like it. Bacon. It’s not just for breakfast anymore. (For the folks who are allergic, my deepest sympathies.)


9 posted on 04/06/2013 8:46:39 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Marie Antoinette

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=magnesium+asparate


10 posted on 04/06/2013 8:48:11 AM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: P.O.E.

I though epsom salts taken internally turned one into a flesh eating cannible? Isn’t that what the people in those cases of some folks attacking others and biting chunks out of their bodies?


11 posted on 04/06/2013 8:49:01 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

That’s not a bug. It’s a feature.


12 posted on 04/06/2013 8:49:53 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Marie Antoinette
One problem with magnesium is absorption. Because it tends to "race through" a person, taking it orally takes a long time to influence blood levels. Many people swear by the use of "magnesium oil" on their skin. I found that to be messy and irritating.

Angstrom minerals have a particle size small enough to enter the blood stream directly, thus bypassing digestion and the digestion ills that mag can produce. This stuff is costly, but magical. Hubby and I take a TBL twice a day (you have to put it in juice or something - it tastes awful) I personally use a swig of chocolate coconut milk.

Angstrom Magnesium

13 posted on 04/06/2013 8:54:22 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Shall not be infringed. Period.)
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To: Bulwinkle
Low Magnesium Linked To Heart Disease [magnesium overlooked as the MAIN FACTOR in heart disease]

I believe ( if it hasn't been discovered already but not mentioned because cancer is a big money maker) that low magnesium is also the cause of most cancers.

An almond (major magnesium food) or two a day, and you'll never have to fear cancer. They knew this back in the 1930's. Like aspirin, almonds can't be patented though. There's no money to be made by the disclosure.

14 posted on 04/06/2013 8:54:51 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Mygirlsmom
One problem with magnesium is absorption.

Magnesium needs potassium. They work together.

(Mix almonds and bananas, and you've got it made.)

15 posted on 04/06/2013 9:01:42 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Bulwinkle

http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Magnesium-HealthProfessional/

Sounds like it’s easy to get enough if you eat nuts, lots of dark green vegetables and whole bran...

but hard to get enough if you don’t!

Maybe supplements are a good idea.


16 posted on 04/06/2013 9:01:50 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: dragonblustar
I have a problem with Raynauds Syndrome. Where I lose circulation in my fingers when it gets cold out.

My Chiropractor, who also does homeopathic medicines, told me to take more Magnesium.

This article just makes sense to me. If Magnesium helps the heart, it would help circulation. And visa versa.

Time to double down on the Mag. I guess Doc was right.

17 posted on 04/06/2013 9:06:31 AM PDT by mountn man (ATTITUDE- The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It.)
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To: rktman
I depend strictly on bacon for all my nutritional needs. Whether or not it works, I don’t know. But I like it. Bacon. It’s not just for breakfast anymore. (For the folks who are allergic, my deepest sympathies.)

NOW I read some common sense! The only thing better than bacon , is bacon wrapped around bacon.

18 posted on 04/06/2013 9:12:54 AM PDT by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: rktman

Are you one of those meatatarians?


19 posted on 04/06/2013 9:12:59 AM PDT by madameguinot
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To: madameguinot

Veggie what?????? LOL! Carnivorous maximus. I believe I’ll have a side order of bacon with that please.


20 posted on 04/06/2013 9:21:01 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Bulwinkle

Is there a link to any new original research leading to this conclusion? I looked at the link and it appears to me that this is based on a review of the literature that the author, who directs a magnesium research and outreach center in Hawaii wrote. Did I miss something?

I’m not dismissing the importance of magnesium, or any other mineral, vitamin, or nutrient in health, but I wasn’t able to find anything new here.


21 posted on 04/06/2013 9:21:01 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Bulwinkle
Magnesium is the controller mineral for Calcium in the body. A lack of Magnesium will cause the body to dump Calcium. Has a lot to do with why Americans with their extreme calcium intakes from dairy products suffer from Osteoporosis.

Magnesium is a mineral that is stored in the body, so after taking it for a while the body will store excess intake on the surface of the bones for later use. You can overdose on Magnesium, it is a powerful laxative when you take over 500mg in a dose. Other than sprints to the bathroom, it is not harmful though.

However adding magnesium to your garden can be a problem. You should test your soil to check its magnesium content. Here in Alaska the soil in the valley already has high levels of magnesium, so much so that using regular quick lime will cause magnesium poisoning in the soil. Once you get too much magnesium in your soil your screwed, It will retard growth not boost it and there is no way to get it out.

22 posted on 04/06/2013 9:23:47 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: GreyFriar

They are really craving magnesium.


23 posted on 04/06/2013 9:26:28 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: rktman
It’s not just for breakfast anymore


24 posted on 04/06/2013 9:39:13 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Bulwinkle

I reviewed a couple of articles that said funeral homes were associated with deaths from heart disease,cancer, diabetes ...well ,just about everything.

Well I got to go and take 2 micrograms of homeopathic rat turds. Completely organically grown btw.


25 posted on 04/06/2013 9:39:23 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: P.O.E.

Hi - how do you apply to your garden. Sprinkle granules or dilute?


26 posted on 04/06/2013 9:43:20 AM PDT by bunster
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To: builder
The only thing better than bacon , is bacon wrapped around bacon.

How about Bacon woven into a mat and wrapped around Italian Sausage, pasted with BBQ Sauce and then baked in the oven ?

27 posted on 04/06/2013 9:44:11 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Bulwinkle

We have been taking a lot of D3 for a couple of years now and a few mos ago added daily magnesium. I think we are going to add daily potassium also.


28 posted on 04/06/2013 9:47:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Brings a tear to my eye. Ain’t America great?


29 posted on 04/06/2013 9:49:43 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I didn’t find it but: Magnesium prevents phosphate-induced calcification in human aortic vascular smooth muscle cells
http://ndt.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/12/09/ndt.gfs520/F4.expansion.html


30 posted on 04/06/2013 9:54:26 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: GreyFriar
I though epsom salts taken internally turned one into a flesh eating cannible? Isn’t that what the people in those cases of some folks attacking others and biting chunks out of their bodies?

Epsom salts can be taken internally for "occasional" constipation. I believe there are plenty of other means of taking care of constipation without drinking epsom salts. Epsom salts are mainly used for soaking ones feet if swollen and/for other foot injuries. Soaking ones feet is also a good means of getting magnesium into the body to help avoid heart disease. I've read that in pill form, "chelate" is one of the better forms for taking magnesium. I've been taking it for years and my mother takes it to help with high blood pressure.

31 posted on 04/06/2013 10:02:06 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: concerned about politics
Magnesium needs potassium. They work together.

Zinc should also be taken with magnesium to help the body absorb it better.

32 posted on 04/06/2013 10:03:53 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: UCANSEE2
I cry - FOUL !!

That is just too fine looking.

33 posted on 04/06/2013 10:17:44 AM PDT by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: UCANSEE2

You guys are evil. Now I have to go try that.

And if your a prepper, don’t forget the canned bacon. Ready cooked, just remember to open one end of the can before swallowing.


34 posted on 04/06/2013 10:20:25 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: bunster
Hi - how do you apply to your garden. Sprinkle granules or dilute?

I sprinkle around roses. It dissolves immediately when watered in.

35 posted on 04/06/2013 10:20:33 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: UCANSEE2

36 posted on 04/06/2013 10:24:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dragonblustar

Be sure and take Magnesium Citrate as the other magnesium supplements are VERY poorly absorbed.


37 posted on 04/06/2013 10:29:41 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Here's another interesting tidbit:

Oral Magnesium Therapy Improves Endothelial Function in Patients With Coronary Artery Disease
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/102/19/2353.full

??? “ The endothelium is the thin layer of cells that lines the interior surface of blood vessels and lymphatic vessels”

38 posted on 04/06/2013 10:32:02 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

No need to boost potassium, it is in everything! Forget the banana, a medium tomato or potato has more potassium and also avocados, beans. It is in veggies, fruit, chicken, beef, pork ...and NUTS of course. Hmmm... if you live on plain white rice you might want to boost your potassium.


39 posted on 04/06/2013 10:41:02 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: bunster

Sprinkle granules


40 posted on 04/06/2013 11:02:36 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Bulwinkle
Best to take it with Calcium, and best to use capsules over tablets.

In order by price, roughly:

  1. Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom Salt)-- serious laxative, can be used externally as a soak, ridiculously cheap
  2. Magnesium Oxide -- serious laxative, poor absorption (4%), pro-oxidant, cheap
  3. Magnesium Citrate -- serious laxative, cheap (half the price anything below)
  4. Magnesium Oratate -- being neutrally charged, it passes easily through cell membranes; not commonly available in capsules
  5. Magnesium Aspartate -- possible neurotoxin
  6. Magnesium Glycinate -- good price; non-laxative; contains glycine, a neurotransmitter that improves sleep
  7. Magnesium Fumerate -- good price; non-laxative; contains fumaric acid, which is brain protective
  8. Magnesium Malate -- good price; non-laxative; contains malic acid, which chelates aluminum from the body
  9. Magnesium Chloride -- expensive, not commonly available in capsules
  10. Magnesium Taurate -- expensive, contains taurine, which is good for the heart
  11. Magnesium 2-AEP -- expensive
  12. Magnesium Threonate -- very expensive, goes through the blood-brain barrier,
  13. Magnesium butyrate -- very expensive
  14. Magnesium caprylate -- very expensive

41 posted on 04/06/2013 11:03:43 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Bulwinkle

I guess my main question is if one’s blood levels meet the standards, is this enough? My diet is bad due to the traveling requirements of my job, so I take a standard dosed supplement. Not sure if that is sufficient.

While I do try to get it from foods, that doesn’t always happen.


42 posted on 04/06/2013 11:10:09 AM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: traderrob6
Be sure and take Magnesium Citrate as the other magnesium supplements are VERY poorly absorbed.

I thought I'd read somewhere that Magnesium MALATE was better absorbed than the Citrate.

43 posted on 04/06/2013 11:25:34 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: P.O.E.

Thanks. One website said to dissolve it and spray on the tomato, pepper or rose bush as it absorbs immediately. Who know if that’s true. I like your way.


44 posted on 04/06/2013 11:26:37 AM PDT by bunster
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To: SuziQ

Perhaps slightly better but the differences in my opinion are miniscule. Considering that the Citrate tends to be a bit more readily avaiable and cheaper, it’s my supplement of choice.

The main point I was attempting to make was to stay away from the usual form of Magnesium supp being sold, Magnesium oxide. It’s pretty worthless compared to magnesium taurate, magnesium glycinate, magnesium citrate, magnesium malate and magnesium oratate.


45 posted on 04/06/2013 11:34:40 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Bulwinkle

So what food are rich in magnesium? Nuts? Are all nuts equally rich in magnesium?


46 posted on 04/06/2013 11:48:50 AM PDT by what's up
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To: rockabyebaby

It’s also a good safe soak to use for embedded splinters or minor infections.


47 posted on 04/06/2013 12:13:25 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: neverdem

Ping.


48 posted on 04/06/2013 12:20:23 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Bulwinkle

Importantly, not too long ago a young man managed to kill himself with a magnesium overdose. It wasn’t easy.

Typically, Epsom salts, citrate of magnesia, and milk of magnesia are used as laxatives, because the magnesium is poorly absorbed, and actually draws water into the intestines before elimination.

However, this young man did not swallow Epsom salt water, he gargled with it. He suffered from halitosis, bad breath, and thought that by regularly gargling with Epsom salts, it would keep his breath fresh.

So he did so for over a month. But this was the one way he could consistently absorb a maximum dose of magnesium while minimizing elimination.

One day he developed painful, severe all-over body muscle cramps, and he was dead within 48 hours.

The bottom line is that the body’s minerals: calcium, sodium, potassium, magnesium, chloride, zinc, iron, copper, manganese, chromium, molybdenum and selenium; are all important to health, but exist in a delicate balance.

Fortunately, the body is pretty good about maintaining that balance over time, but some diseases, poisons, and imbalances can be so great that it overwhelms us.


49 posted on 04/06/2013 12:41:00 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: traderrob6

This information on magnesium has been known for over 30 years. When I get PVCs (heart flutters), I take magnesium to stop them. Artificial D3 in milk products inhibits the absorption of magnesium.


50 posted on 04/06/2013 12:49:48 PM PDT by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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