Skip to comments.DHS Explains Plans To Buy 1.6B Rounds Of Ammo: We're Buying in Bulk to 'Significantly Lower Costs'
Posted on 04/02/2013 4:03:00 PM PDT by plain talk
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has responded to a letter dated November 13, 2012 from Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) regarding the agency's ammunition purchases. Sen. Coburn published the response on the U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs website yesterday, April 1, 2013.
The response, dated February 4, 2013, says that DHS buys ammunition in bulk to "significantly lower costs."
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Now they plan to save American taxpayers money?
It may end up costing DHS dearly...hardly what you would call lowering the costs.
These preparations are to wage war on American Citizens. These are not law enforcement levels of ammunition accumulation.
Having that much ammunition arounsd without military security means it is beggng to be stolen....but by whom?
Yea, since when is the government interested in “Lower Cost.
Like the Obama daughters flying coach from the Bahamas to Aspen.
So they just spent $1,000 per uniform for TSA agents. Penny wise, pound foolish.
Aren’t they buying massive quantities of guns and ammo to create a shortage for citizen gun owners?
actually it’s $1000 per employee
not per uni
The US military may not fire upon US citizens, but I wouldn’t put it past the Chinese or Nork soldiers...
That makes about as much economic sense as the Obama administration...
“The US military may not fire upon US citizens, but I wouldnt put it past the Chinese or Nork soldiers...”
Yep, I lay awake nights sweating that the ChiComm apes will float over the sea in bathtubs and invade America.
It's estimated that there are somewhere between 200 million ansd 300 million firearms in the US. If just 150 million are fired occasionally, and not in the attic somewhere gathering dust and cobwebs, and if everyone bought one (1) box of 50 rounds for each one since Newtown, that's -- ummmmm 7.5 billion rounds. Since December.
TSA will provide your initial uniform issue consisting of:
3 long sleeve shirts
3 short sleeve shirts
2 pairs of trousers
2 ties, and one belt
Let’s say $75/shirt=$300 + $100/sweater=$100 + $100/trousers=$200 + $20/tie=$40 + $20/belt=$20 + $40/socks=$40 + $300/jacket=$300
Do these prices seem accurate for Mexican made clothing bought in bulk (50,000 orders)?
Then I guess their supply of horsesh1t is purt near free.
Arent they buying massive quantities of guns and ammo to create a shortage for citizen gun owners?
Uh huh, my best (and only) suit plus shoes, belt, shirt, tie and underwear could be replaced at today’s prices for about three fifths of the TSA uniform cost. Government procurement !!
Big Sis hasn’t answered the question as to just why she needs that many rounds of ammunition. To keep us in line perhaps?
Then it shouldn’t concern you as to why the DHS is buying enough bullets to shoot each man, woman, and child, 7 times over, since the US military wouldn’t fire upon their own people and the treasonous wouldn’t somehow bring the Chinese and Nork’s over surreptitiously.
You can go back to sleep now. Sleep well.
They said target practice, at one point. Why’d they need hollow point bullets?
More lies from the Obama administration.
Clearly, the ammunition is to be used against Americans.
Champagne tastes, beer pocketbook. right I believe they wanted to buy high volume to get a cheaper price. buy up all the ammunition so civilians cannot purchase it is the next excuse.
Benjamin Franklin - He who is good at making excuses is seldom good at anything else.
I’m sure if you investigated closely enough, you’d find some Obama-contributing middleman skimming off a significant slice of the $$$.
I can believe that.
There are billions of people in the Third World who would go to war against the US, if they were promised a share of the mythical wealth that the rest of the world believes the US has.
Yea!significantly lower cost right.I’m sure the DHS is preparing to defend the United States from an invasion of the Chinese army.But then again they probably couldn’t defend this country from the invasion of the 11 million illegal alians that are ripping us off blind.
That ammo is to be used on us.
Meanwhile Police can’t find enough bullets to practice with.
that is not a satisfactory answer. why can’t they get a good deal with far less? ridiculous.
No govt entity has ever bought anything in bulk for the purpose of lowering cost.
that is part of it. they are also creating the shortage to increase the cost of whatever people can find.
nope many will. have no faith they won’t.
I guess we need to see if water jugs and watermelons were procured in sufficient quantity, hollow points blow them up pretty good. In other words, I’m not buying ANYTHING they are selling.
I don’t think, currently, that the bulk of the US military will fire upon its own citizenry. Although, I cannot say that 15 years from now.
ok then lets see their cost/benefit analysis then
What was their projected cost, how much do they expect to save by buying in bulk...
You did PLAN and calculate in order to know it was a cost reduction, right?
“Then it shouldnt concern you as to why the DHS is buying enough bullets to shoot each man, woman, and child, 7 times over...”
Americans have bought enough ammo to shoot every DHS employee 45,836 times.
Yeah. And the drones, and the MRAPs, and Obama’s speech about having a standing domestic army as big and well-funded as the military are all a cost-saving measure as well- at a time when the government doesn’t seem at all interested in the cost of well...anything that it wants?
Yeah, I’ll believe that.
“Arent they buying massive quantities of guns and ammo to create a shortage for citizen gun owners?”
That’s really not how economics works. Guns and ammo are relatively simple products to manufacture, since they don’t require any exotic materials. So, if they tell ammunition manufacturers that they want to buy 1.6 billion rounds over an extended period of years, then the manufacturers are just going to scale up production to meet the new demand.
If there’s an ammunition shortage, it’s because of increased panic buying on the part of the public, which is an unexpected drain on the supply that manufacturers couldn’t account for ahead of time.
you know the federal gubbamint is ALL about saving money.
Good luck to you, as an individual, trying to take on an instiutional military.
Well, at least someone else around here still uses their brain instead of flying into a panic at every hyped up alarmist story. Kudos to you, sir.
“Big Sis hasnt answered the question as to just why she needs that many rounds of ammunition. To keep us in line perhaps?”
Well, she actually has, if you read the article. You may not believe the answer, but you can’t say the government didn’t give it.
Just FYI, I spoke with two people over the weekend who are on a waiting list to get ammunition for their guns. Neither has had a problem before this.
DHS isn't buying bullets. Throwing them at a target is not very effective.
They're buying these thingies:
i dont think the majority will. i think enough will. the more screwed up they are the more they will. gays and lesbians in particular, power-mad ones will. the more problems and messed up they are the likelier they are to do it.
Well, I’ll just be glad when their 1.4 billion rounds are delivered, so the makers can start shipping to civilians in numbers again.
That’s why I was alluding to the fifteen year mark. By then, enough loyal Americans will have retired from the military and enough of their replacements, who may not be trained to be so loyal, will have filled the ranks.
Then it definitely could be a military that has stopped serving the people.
“Good luck to you, as an individual, trying to take on an instiutional military.”
The DHS is institutional military? Why don’t you list for us all the battle ribbons that DHS has been awarded?
You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
i am saying i think they have enough in there right now. not a majority, but enough.
That is a plain lie. If the goal was to safe money, 3/4 of the buy would have been cheaper range ammo, not expensive HP ammo.
And please, don’t try to blow smoke up my a$$ with a fable like, “Nothing is too good for our feds. They always train on expensive HP ammo.” BS. They can make range ammo that handles and feels the same as the HP ammo....if the goal is cost saving.
Does anyone know whom the feds are buying the ammo from?
Is it the same manufacturers that can’t keep a spare box of cartridges, from .22 shorts to 45.70s, on the shelves from Seattle to Miami?
I’ve got no beef with ammo manufacturers. But I have to wonder if the “bulk price” sales to the feds are worth leaving their retail markets AND their longtime customers high and dry.
Can’t they turn down the government sales just like some of the gun manufacturers are doing?