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Women receives bill after making restroom pit stop
NBC ^ | 2/28/13 | NBC

Posted on 02/28/2013 7:44:18 PM PST by k4gypsyrose

A license plate gives police a whole lot of information about you, and law enforcement is supposed to protect those details. However, one local sheriff admits he gave a driver's name and address away, and the reason he did it is downright bizarre.

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Disturbing!
1 posted on 02/28/2013 7:44:28 PM PST by k4gypsyrose
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To: k4gypsyrose
From the article:
The sheriff said that, at the time, he had probable cause to run Barnes' tag, because he was investigating it as a possible crime.
Hey there, Mr. Sheriff. Could you please provide the Penal Code section that you thought had been violated? (I didn't think so.)
2 posted on 02/28/2013 7:51:06 PM PST by Bob
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To: k4gypsyrose

If this is a violation of the law (which I would think it is) then the sheriff should be arrested and charged.


3 posted on 02/28/2013 7:56:09 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Bob; Morgana

Sheriff is supposed to enforce the law, not patrol the potty of a private business


4 posted on 02/28/2013 7:56:09 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: k4gypsyrose

The police probably shouldn’t have looked up the license plate. However, it is a pet peeve of mine that businesses that maintain restrooms for their customers get taken advantage of by people who stop but do not purchase anything. My husband and I travel often by car and see this often especially at McDonalds. In my opinion it is just dishonest and rude. If one doesn’t want to purchase something, there are roadside travel stops. It is the old “something for nothing” attitude. It is just too prevalent today.


5 posted on 02/28/2013 7:56:18 PM PST by pjpblush
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The story all came about when a woman stopped to use a restaurant’s restroom and then left without buying anything.

A few days later, the woman checked her mail to find a bill from that restaurant, asking her to pay for using their restroom. And it turns out the sheriff, himself, helped the restaurant’s owners track her down.

“I just feel like I’ve been violated,” Patricia Barnes said.

Barnes received a handwritten letter that asked for $5 because she used the restroom at The Flood Zone in Houston County.


6 posted on 02/28/2013 7:58:26 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: pjpblush
My husband and I travel often by car and see this often especially at McDonalds.

I sometimes stop and use the restroom at McDonalds, if I need to, because I am a customer of McDonalds.

I may not buy anything on that particular instance, but I have done business with them before and will do business with them again.

7 posted on 02/28/2013 7:59:21 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: k4gypsyrose

Good luck in getting payment for a restroom charge. It’s probably not legal to begin with, and definitely unenforceible


8 posted on 02/28/2013 8:00:12 PM PST by Figment
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To: pjpblush

If I owned a business, I would not mind at all if travelers stopped and used the restrooms. If I ever get the urge and am shopping at a nearby town, I always use Lowe’s because they are the cleanest.

I also do a lot of shopping there tho not necessarily at the same time I visit their bathrooms


9 posted on 02/28/2013 8:02:46 PM PST by yarddog (yu)
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To: k4gypsyrose

I buy a McDouble & a Sml Fries = $2 + Tx. I time my potty stops for a McD and it works out well.


10 posted on 02/28/2013 8:04:28 PM PST by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2013! Geaux, Pack, Geaux!)
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To: k4gypsyrose

What small, small villiage idiot man. Same with the resturant owner. People are sickening these days.


11 posted on 02/28/2013 8:08:09 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: yarddog

Buccee’s has people on payroll working 24/7 cleaning the restrooms.


12 posted on 02/28/2013 8:08:09 PM PST by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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To: pjpblush

Using a restroom is dishonest?


13 posted on 02/28/2013 8:09:30 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: pjpblush
It used to be gas stations. Back in the day people would stop at a gas station to use the restroom. Very common. I never heard of anyone charging for it. McDonald's is todays gas station.
14 posted on 02/28/2013 8:14:08 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: k4gypsyrose

The Sheriff had no business in giving that information to any citizen, period.


15 posted on 02/28/2013 8:16:00 PM PST by Gator113 ( REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS and leave my guns alone!!)
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To: TaMoDee

I try to avoid McDonalds as it is a bit of hit and miss with them. Sometimes clean, often not. If I am in a small town which is the county seat, I often use theirs in the Courthouse. Almost always spotless.

If not that then the city hall or other government buildings.


16 posted on 02/28/2013 8:16:16 PM PST by yarddog (yu)
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To: yarddog

I once went on the courthouse.


17 posted on 02/28/2013 8:20:19 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: yarddog

I dunno... you might change your mind! LOL

Hubby was returning to our business one day and got behind someone driving REALLY fast. As he was nearing the shop, he noticed that they had pulled into our parking lot.

According to the office manager, the guy came rushing in the door (nearly knocking over a customer) and hurried into the bathroom, which is directly off the customer lobby/office. After that, there passed several minutes of loud, strange noises from the bathroom and some awkward silence between the manager and the customer. To quote the manager, “It sounded like the bathroom scene in ‘Dreamcatcher’ was being played out in there!”

Eventually, the guy came out (without flushing), went directly to his car without saying a word and drove off. The smell would have stripped paint! His “thank you for letting me use your bathroom” was diarrhea all over the toilet and floor.


18 posted on 02/28/2013 8:20:51 PM PST by nodumbblonde ("I'm all for helping the helpless, but I don't give a rat's a** about the clueless." - Dennis Miller)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I used to buy a cup of coffee at McD if I needed to use the bathroom. I might still if the line isn’t too long. The problem is when the street people end up using the restrooms ALL the time, and/or trashing them. We were at a hamburger joint in the city and the manager had to buzz you in to the one restroom. (The other one had been trashed).

As my elderly mom left the restroom, a homeless guy sprinted in behind her almost knocking her over to catch the closing door.


19 posted on 02/28/2013 8:22:09 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: k4gypsyrose
Disturbing!

Yes definitely! You'd think NBC would hire people how know something about English grammar to write their headlines. Apparently NBC doesn't know about subject verb agreement. "Women" is the plural of "woman." "Receives" is the third person singular present tense conjugation of the verb "to receive."

20 posted on 02/28/2013 8:22:50 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: pjpblush

>>The police probably shouldn’t have looked up the license plate. However, it is a pet peeve of mine that businesses that maintain restrooms for their customers get taken advantage of by people who stop but do not purchase anything.<<

I can assure you the businesses don’t feel that way. Not only are you ignorant of the fact that the individual may be a regular customer all but the time you see them, you’re thinking of it like its your home with someone ringing the doorbell to come and use your bathroom. Businesses with public restrooms don’t care if one hundred or one thousand visit them. But the more people that come into their store for ANY reason, the better. If they don’t come in, they won’t buy. If they do, they might.

I will grant you the very small mom and pops feel like you do, but for the bigger chains, toilet supplies cost almost nothing compared to their annual revenue.


21 posted on 02/28/2013 8:26:57 PM PST by 1L
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To: pjpblush

I go to McDonalds regularly, I like their Cokes and I get something to eat there several times a week and I often get breakfast for the whole office. This is all at the drive up window. Now there are some days when McDonalds is the closest bathroom and I don’t want anything to eat or drink and I go use their restroom.

Believe me, I have given them enough business that me using their restroom once every couple of months w/o buying anything is not dishonest or rude.

Sometimes I go in and then get back in my car and go through the drive through to get what I want cuz it is going to be faster than ordering in the restarant. Many times when we are traveling my husband drops me off to go to the bathroom, goes through the drive up and then picks me up.

That’s thing about making judgements without the whole story.


22 posted on 02/28/2013 8:28:05 PM PST by tiki
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To: pjpblush

Oh, get over yourself. I live on the road in my job. You have to take care of Nature’s call, the last thing you think about is buying some damned piss poor excuse for “food” to do it. You go in, you don’t soil the place, you don’t hurt a damned soul, you take care of business....you leave.

Sue me.

Guess I have to start budgeting for bu***hit fast food whenever I have to stop to please your ilk. What has this country come to......


23 posted on 02/28/2013 8:29:37 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: nodumbblonde

He probably was embarrassed and wanted to get away as fast as possible.

I worked at a service station during the weekends when I was in high school. It was one which did not offer any service except oil, water, air and gasoline.

During the night I was there alone. I was also responsible for keeping the rest rooms clean. It was really not that difficult.


24 posted on 02/28/2013 8:32:22 PM PST by yarddog (yu)
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To: 1L

I had to go really bad one evening and I went in to this restaraunt. There was a sign that said you had to purchase something to use the restroom and I’m reaching in my back pocket to pull out some money and order something and as I approached the counter the woman started yelling that I couldn’t use the restroom if I wasn’t a customer. Whoa, I yelled back and it wasn’t very lady-like, I will never eat there and it has been over 20 years.


25 posted on 02/28/2013 8:34:37 PM PST by tiki
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To: SandRat
A few days later, the woman checked her mail to find a bill from that restaurant, asking her to pay for using their restroom

She should have just written them a nice note and enclosed her $200 invoice for inspecting and testing their bathroom.

26 posted on 02/28/2013 8:38:07 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: GeronL
Sheriff is supposed to enforce the law, not patrol the potty of a private business

I believe the terms of usage which you have to agree to if you want to use DMV information requires you to swear that it is for official business only. I believe there is also a fine involved for violations.

27 posted on 02/28/2013 8:38:36 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: 1L

Unless they have a posted sign the bathroom is assumed to be available to anyone in the building. I have seen such signs in Chicago McDonalds, but the only way it is enforceable is by putting a lock on the door and only giving the key to someone who buys something. The one I went into even hired a security guard whose only job seemed to be potty patrol.

I hope this policeman gets some sort of reprimand. He may say he looked up her identity because he had cause to believe she had committed a crime (which I believe is a lie), but he had no justification in giving out her address to the staff at McDonald’s for their schoolyard brand of vigilante justice.


28 posted on 02/28/2013 8:38:57 PM PST by Burkean (.)
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To: pjpblush
If one doesn’t want to purchase something, there are roadside travel stops.

Have yet to see a rest area in a city.

29 posted on 02/28/2013 8:41:17 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Promotional Fee Paid for by "Ouchies" The Sharp, Prickly Toy You Bathe With!)
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To: pjpblush

Sometimes you have no choice but to find the nearest restroom, or would you rather people just take care of their business on the side of the road? If i’m on the road, i try not to drink soda, so even buying a soda from a fast food restaurant would sometimes be just a waste of money.


30 posted on 02/28/2013 8:45:01 PM PST by psjones (u)
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To: Jeff Winston

My husband and I travel often by car and see this often especially at McDonalds.

HAHAHHH kinda foggy huh? the things gals come up with...i dont know...


31 posted on 02/28/2013 8:52:57 PM PST by jimsin (e)
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To: oldbrowser

If the Flood Zone, aptly named, had a pay toilet then this would have never been an issue, this free rider (pisser) problem


32 posted on 02/28/2013 8:55:25 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: k4gypsyrose
Just wait till Tennessee gets Buc-ee's! That restaurant won't have to worry about people stopping to use its restrooms. They'll be worried about not having anyone stop.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2104606/posts
Buc-ee's and its beaver build on cult following: more of its stores coming to Houston area
Houston Chronicle ^ | Oct. 13, 2008, 11:33AM | By DAVID KAPLAN


33 posted on 02/28/2013 8:56:01 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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Hey restaurant. Prove I used your restroom. Was it me driving the car? Was it me in your restroom? Maybe all I did was check my hair in the mirror - how would you know? Surely you don’t have surveillance in there, right? Actually, I just went in to see the general cleanliness level of your restrooms - my wife is very particular. When I saw how bad your men’s room was, we went down the interstate another exit.


34 posted on 02/28/2013 8:56:31 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Obviously you didn’t go to their website...did ya?


35 posted on 02/28/2013 8:57:11 PM PST by johnnyd
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To: pjpblush

Using a public restroom in a business is a crime to you? Nice attitude. I hope you at least practice what you preach.


36 posted on 02/28/2013 9:00:17 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: johnnyd

Why bother. There’s lots of pictures posted on the web.


37 posted on 02/28/2013 9:00:44 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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Hey there, Mr. Sheriff. Could you please provide the Penal Code section that you thought had been violated? (I didn't think so.)

That will be Penal Code #1 with large fries and a liter of cola.......free of course.

38 posted on 02/28/2013 9:01:53 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: pjpblush
In my opinion it is just dishonest and rude. If one doesn’t want to purchase something, there are roadside travel stops. It is the old “something for nothing” attitude. It is just too prevalent today.

You're correct of course. The me first entitlement attitude is disgusting.

39 posted on 02/28/2013 9:02:34 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: k4gypsyrose

Maybe there were no family dogs that needed shooting and he had nothing better to do. I wonder what the coding was for the citation or whatever he used.


40 posted on 02/28/2013 9:02:54 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: 21twelve

I used to buy a cup of coffee at McD if I needed to use the bathroom.
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My ‘work’ is on the road and when I have to go, I have to go.
A few minutes one way or the other can lead to ‘disaster’.
I would stop at a gas station, do what I had to do and buy a large coffee.
Used to muse that it was like a vicious cycle, buy coffee, have to stop and use head + buy coffee, have to stop and use head etc etc etc X however far the journey may be....

I remember stopping in the middle of the night and there was a line...I was behind 2 teenagers who were next and was contemplating going to the next facility when one of the kids looked at me, turned to his buddy and said
“Lets go — this man looks like my grandfather does just before having an accident”...they left and I ‘thanked’ them (by the way, 2 Black lads and I am neither Black nor a (young) lad...)


41 posted on 02/28/2013 9:03:40 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: k4gypsyrose

McDonalds and nice hotels are my picks for clean public restrooms.


42 posted on 02/28/2013 9:05:23 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: k4gypsyrose

So who’s the Sheriff of Mayberry this time, Goober?


43 posted on 02/28/2013 9:17:39 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: pjpblush

I’d figure if I looked over their shelves real good to see if there’s something I might want to get, I’ve “shopped” them well enough.


44 posted on 02/28/2013 9:22:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: k4gypsyrose
When on the road and the urge gets me. I always buy something, be it a coke or whatever. It costs the business to maintain the restrooms.

At most she may have commited some kind of theft of service.

45 posted on 02/28/2013 9:27:47 PM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: xrmusn

“Lets go — this man looks like my grandfather does just before having an accident”...

LOL!


46 posted on 02/28/2013 9:38:29 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: k4gypsyrose

Check back in 6 months, after this I’m going out on a limb to say that the Flood Zone will no longer be in business.


47 posted on 02/28/2013 9:50:57 PM PST by bigbob
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“I may not buy anything on that particular instance, but I have done business with them before and will do business with them again. “

Right! I’m just depositing the Big Mac and coffee from my last McDonalds stop.


48 posted on 02/28/2013 10:08:13 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

And I usually have the receipt in my wallet.


49 posted on 02/28/2013 10:12:43 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: 21twelve

I remember when I was a teenager and you always had to put a coin in the slot in order to open the door to the stall. Wasn’t much but did help pay for the maintenance of the bathrooms. We kids never had any money back then - and as older adults now find ourselves in the same position - so we’d just crawl under the door.


50 posted on 02/28/2013 10:13:26 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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