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NBC Exclusive: Boy Scouts Close to Ending Ban on Gay Members, Leaders
NBC News ^ | Monday, January 28, 2013 | Pete Williams

Posted on 01/28/2013 10:15:05 AM PST by kristinn

The Boy Scouts of America, one of the nation’s largest private youth organizations, is actively considering an end to its decades-long policy of banning gay scouts or scout leaders, according to scouting officials and outsiders familiar with internal discussions.

If adopted by the organization’s board of directors, it would represent a profound change on an issue that has been highly controversial -- one that even went to the US Supreme Court. The new policy, now under discussion, would eliminate the ban from the national organization’s rules, leaving local sponsoring organizations free to decide for themselves whether to admit gay scouts.

“The chartered organizations that oversee and deliver scouting would accept membership and select leaders consistent with their organization’s mission, principles or religious beliefs,” according to Deron Smith, a spokesman for the Boy Scouts’ national organization.

Individual sponsors and parents “would be able to choose a local unit which best meets the needs of their families,” Smith said.

The discussion of a potential change in policy is nearing its final stages, according to outside scouting supporters. If approved, the change could be announced as early as next week, after the BSA's national board holds a regularly scheduled meeting.

Only seven months ago, the Boy Scouts affirmed a policy of banning gay members, after a nearly two-year examination of the issue by a committee of volunteers convened by national leaders of the Boy Scouts of America, known as the BSA.

In a statement last July affirming the ban, its national executive board called it “the best policy for the organization.”

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; enemedia; homosexualagenda; liberalfascism; nambla; pederasty; pedophilia; pinkmafia
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1 posted on 01/28/2013 10:15:14 AM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

My kids will never join the Boy Scouts of America, if they decide to allow declared homosexuals as members or leaders.


2 posted on 01/28/2013 10:17:31 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: kristinn

Well, now they won’t have anyone to go to Boy Scouts except the counselors.


3 posted on 01/28/2013 10:17:35 AM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: kristinn

Never would I allow a son of mine to be in a group that allowed faggots to be in a position of power over him... nor an organization that allowed homosexual propaganda.


4 posted on 01/28/2013 10:19:51 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: kristinn

Et tu Boy Scouts???? BS.


5 posted on 01/28/2013 10:19:57 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: kristinn

Well, that’ll be the end of the Boy Scouts then.


6 posted on 01/28/2013 10:20:21 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: kristinn

If true, this is the end of the BSA.


8 posted on 01/28/2013 10:21:05 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: kristinn

In the afterlife, God may be the ultimate ruler.

But in the here and now, Government makes and enforces the rules. Disobey Him and there will be Hell to pay in the form of harrassment, regulation, condemnation, fines and imprisonment.

The Boy Scouts are simply kneeling to their current Master in the here and now.


9 posted on 01/28/2013 10:21:15 AM PST by staytrue
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To: kristinn

Might be misinformation designed purely to make them look bad in the media

On the other hand, liberals love to infiltrate organizations and never show their true colors until they are in positions of power.


10 posted on 01/28/2013 10:22:31 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: kristinn
Here's what will happen: the BSA leaves it up to individual councils. The ACLU sues these smaller entities who cannot put up the legal defense that the entire BSA did. One by one they fall, forcing councils to allow gay den and pack (troop) leaders.

Talk about a target-rich environment.

11 posted on 01/28/2013 10:22:42 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Tzar
Don’t buy it.

Good advice. This is coming from a cartel of known liars and depraved communist thugs...the media.

12 posted on 01/28/2013 10:24:08 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: kristinn

Not the direction I would have expected the BSA to move.

Hopefully some BSA troops, independent of the national organization, will take steps to ensure that all members from Cub Scout to Eagle Scout are indeed straight and not gay.


13 posted on 01/28/2013 10:24:59 AM PST by OKRA2012
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To: kristinn

Doesn’t sound like the end of the BSA at all.

They’re pushing the decision lower in the organization. Smart move ... I’d guess we won’t be seeing a lot of troops, packs, dens etc that choose to have homosexual leaders, but it insulates the National organization from the controversy.

In fact, it may very well shine a clear light on the limits of the gay movement and it’s agenda. When local organizations don’t stampede to allow gay leaders it’s going to show just how limited the movement really is.


16 posted on 01/28/2013 10:29:25 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: kristinn

Probably not going to happen. The Mormon troops would leave.


17 posted on 01/28/2013 10:29:41 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: kristinn

That will work out just as well as women in combat units.


18 posted on 01/28/2013 10:30:20 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Candor7

You realize, of course, that the BSA has always had gay Scout leaders. The leaders just kept it quiet. The two deep leadership rule was put in place because we couldn’t stop gays from being Scout leaders.


19 posted on 01/28/2013 10:31:25 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: kristinn

Why not? It worked out so well for the Roman Catholic Church and Penn State...


20 posted on 01/28/2013 10:33:37 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kristinn
Be careful here..

..this is an NBC story....they are lying bastards...

...wait for further word from a more trusted source....or wait for an "announcement" from a BSA muckety muck.

21 posted on 01/28/2013 10:33:37 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance........)
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To: kristinn

awesome!

now fags can diddle little boys in the woods while being told it’s the ‘enlightened’ relationship type and not a ‘throwback’ like those breeder relationships

/venom-dripping-sarcasm

looks like a few camp leaders may end up missing, if this comes to pass...


22 posted on 01/28/2013 10:34:13 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

It’s already a settled issue, per the Supreme Court.

I’d expect that most lawsuits along those lines would be dismissed. Those that aren’t would be covered by legal insurance provided through the national organization, or the sponsoring one.

I would expect the Mormon and Roman Catholic sponsored BSA councils etc to fight tooth and nail. Both have VERY deep pockets.


23 posted on 01/28/2013 10:34:42 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: kristinn

That’ll be the end of Boy Scouts. Right now, I’m so proud of them to have held firm against the faggot attacks.

If the queers and faggots want their own boys’ clubs, then why not start from scratch . . . they’ll have all the media attention they’d want . . . and advertise that “we have homosexual counselors in our scouts clubs and would love to have your boys go with us on camping trips.”

Basically, that’s what they want, right? Start their own clubs and come up with a spicy name.


24 posted on 01/28/2013 10:35:13 AM PST by laweeks
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To: kristinn
Ok...a man who lusts for pubescent girls is a simple pervert...meaning he is a normal heterosexual in need of treatment or prison if he acts out his desires...in times past when life spans were low,pubescent girls often married.

Ok...a man who lusts for pubescent boys is a protected pervert...meaning he is a "normal" mentally ill homosexual in need of an ACLU attorney if he acts out his desires...in times past, when life spans were low, pubescent boys traumatized by such pederasts were rescued and the sick bastard homosexuals PUNISHED!!!

Like other long worthwhile institutions based on sexual biological facts the BSA, the USMC, the NFL et cetera are all doomed to destruction under the administration of Obama, our first female POTUS.

25 posted on 01/28/2013 10:37:36 AM PST by Happy Rain ('Women in front line combat units are about as useful as Obama in a Cat House.")
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To: kristinn

About every 6 months, we get a story like this.
And everytime, the BSA leadership denies that it is even a possibility.

This has happened so many times since I’ve been a Freeper that I have to believe that it is deliberate.

I guess false stories like this are the only way to bring the issue to everyone’s attention.


26 posted on 01/28/2013 10:37:36 AM PST by kidd
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To: kristinn

I wonder what kind of thumb screws are being applied to certain board members.


27 posted on 01/28/2013 10:37:46 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: tanknetter
It’s already a settled issue, per the Supreme Court.

Yeah, that's what I thought after Bowers v. Hardwick (state anti-sodomy statute rulings). Then, only a few years later comes Lawrence v. Texas (with O'Connor reversing herself) and the floodgates opened.
28 posted on 01/28/2013 10:38:01 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: AppyPappy

Of course I know that. I said “declared homosexuals”.

Once they declare as members or leaders, or once they are caught at homosexualizing , they are expelled from the order.Simple.

The Boy Scounts do not need pedophiles and fudgepackers making policy or exercising power based on homosexuality. They need to be sub rosa, or at the back of the bus if they are on it at all.


29 posted on 01/28/2013 10:38:01 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: kristinn

The day this happens I’ll be changing my will.


30 posted on 01/28/2013 10:38:31 AM PST by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: kristinn
An NBC report?

I wish FReepers would hold off the knee-jerking and stop trashing the BSA untill further confirmations is received.

 

31 posted on 01/28/2013 10:38:53 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Tzar
Don’t buy it. This is mere psyops.

You bet it is. Anything to demoralize moral America. The last I heard, two members were trying to push this perversion, but it was soundly shut down.

32 posted on 01/28/2013 10:40:30 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: OKRA2012
Not the direction I would have expected the BSA to move.

Why not ? It is the direction we all shall move.

Face it. Godverment is now the most powerful entity in the physical world. Bow and Kneel before him or suffer the consequences.

I know who my master is now. And so do the Boy Scouts. Godvernment is the master, and we are the slaves.

Remember: Thou shalt not drink a Big Gulp in NYC.

33 posted on 01/28/2013 10:40:30 AM PST by staytrue
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To: MarineBrat

Never would I allow a son of mine to be in a group that allowed faggots to be in a position of power over him... nor an organization that allowed homosexual propaganda.

Are we talking about the Boy Scouts? Or the US Armed Forces?

 

34 posted on 01/28/2013 10:40:38 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: kristinn

Chris Matthews is getting that thrill up his leg again


35 posted on 01/28/2013 10:41:02 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: kristinn

American Heritage Girls has only been around 17 years and already has over 18,000 members. I suspect they would be glad to start a parallel organization for the boys if BSA sells out.

I have a three year-old son, and I was planning to have him join Scouts when he’s old enough. But if BSA takes this path, forget it. First the homosexuals get in. Then they start complaining that they’re not being treated fairly. Then everyone has to take classes on diversity and acceptance. Pretty soon, you get kicked out of the organization for even mentioning that some homosexual scout leader is getting too close to the boys.


36 posted on 01/28/2013 10:43:04 AM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Timber Rattler

“Well, that’ll be the end of the Boy Scouts then.”

Yup, it’ll continue to exist, but like mainline Protestant churches, with empty membership rolls.


37 posted on 01/28/2013 10:43:04 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: Timber Rattler

“Well, that’ll be the end of the Boy Scouts then.”

Yup, it’ll continue to exist, but like mainline Protestant churches, with empty membership rolls.


38 posted on 01/28/2013 10:43:20 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: kristinn

Bad news.


39 posted on 01/28/2013 10:43:55 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: kristinn

Bad news.


40 posted on 01/28/2013 10:45:04 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: kristinn
A gay boy scout works on his Dance Merit Badge./s

Photobucket

Say goodbye to the Boy Scouts of America. Say hello to the League of Boy Scouts a spin off non homo private organization.

41 posted on 01/28/2013 10:45:57 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: kristinn

No sympathy here when the first “Sandusky” case arises.


42 posted on 01/28/2013 10:46:14 AM PST by jersey117
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Imagine, allowing same-sex sex offenders of men and boys to now have full access to the objects of their obsessions. Perhaps that gay icon, Jerry Sandusky, will now be released to become a scout leader.


43 posted on 01/28/2013 10:46:29 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: AppyPappy
Probably not going to happen. The Mormon troops would leave.

QFT...they are the power behind the throne in both numbers and $$$. While it's possible the BSA could take the the position described in the article where it becomes a local unit option, based on chartering organization guidance, I'd say the LDS-sponsored units would simply drop their BSA affiliation. This would shortly be followed by an LDS-only group similar to the Pentecostal Royal Rangers youth group.

This would essentially collapse the BSA as a national organization, along with its premier events (Jamboree) and High Adventure Bases (Philmont, et al). If there is any discussion going on among the board, it had better be around these types of issues and the potential for the LDS to take the road I described above.

44 posted on 01/28/2013 10:46:50 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: struggle

that’s the whole point. It was always to destroy the Scouts, plain and simple.


45 posted on 01/28/2013 10:48:51 AM PST by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: kristinn

Changing the Boy Scouts into an organization which conditions and brainwashes boys to think “Sodomy is Good”-—the mindset of little sodomized Afghani boys—and the German “Boy Scouts” groups which were actually Founded by a homosexual in the 1800’s-—so they could get a group of boys and have orgies in the woods.

Homosexuality became the National Vice of Germany in the early 1900’s and formed the Nazi party. It is learned and habituated as all Ancient cultures prove-—all homosexual societies—like the Samurai uses little boys. That is their training ground. Most homosexuals are sexually abused-—and all are abused at least emotionally.

Very sick, evil people— who are trying to normalize such an unnatural, learned behavior where nothing can be “evil” if anal sex isn’t. How warped and dehumanizing our Toxic Culture has become and how devoid of Common Sense—the origin of this once great USA. Remove Reason—and we will go into chaos. Promoting Vice like sodomy is evil—particularly evil when you promote it to little children which warps their sexuality and thinking about Reality.

They throw out Christian Ethics for the Satanic, NWO, Kissinger Ethics of the Bohemian gardens where they enact child sacrifice and perform their sodomy acts in worship of Ba’al.

These people are extremely evil, folks. The useful idiots who try to rationalize this “lust” and abnormal use of body parts—and claim it is “love” and “good” are mentally ill and godless.


46 posted on 01/28/2013 10:50:39 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: kristinn

This will kill the Boy Scouts. Just as was hoped.


47 posted on 01/28/2013 10:52:33 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: kristinn

This will kill the Boy Scouts. Just as was hoped.


48 posted on 01/28/2013 10:52:33 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: kristinn

If adopted by the organization’s board of directors, I will quit as an adult volunteer and I will forbid my Grandson from ever Joining.


49 posted on 01/28/2013 10:53:06 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: kristinn
On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and

morally straight.


50 posted on 01/28/2013 10:53:30 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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