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NBC Exclusive: Boy Scouts Close to Ending Ban on Gay Members, Leaders
NBC News ^ | Monday, January 28, 2013 | Pete Williams

Posted on 01/28/2013 10:15:05 AM PST by kristinn

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To: kristinn

Guess my sons won’t be boy scouts. And I’m an Eagle Scout. Sad they’re folding.


151 posted on 01/29/2013 7:53:33 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: savagesusie

You do realize the Nazis sent gays to death camps, right? I mean, this BSA thing is sick but let’s not get lost in falsehood here.


152 posted on 01/29/2013 8:52:24 AM PST by Common Effing Sense
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To: kristinn

This is disgusting. Sadly I can see not just sodomizers but all of NAMBLA salivating over this.


153 posted on 01/29/2013 8:55:31 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: xzins

Quite simply ... agreed.


154 posted on 01/29/2013 8:58:21 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: kristinn

I don’t believe this for a minute.


155 posted on 01/29/2013 10:23:46 AM PST by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: T-Bird45

So would the Catholics.


156 posted on 01/29/2013 10:29:33 AM PST by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: T-Bird45

I just heard back from a BSA Field Service Representative friend of mine at a nearby Council that the word on the street is that this vote is going to be close and could go either way.


157 posted on 01/29/2013 10:51:23 AM PST by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: TArcher

Conflating issues rarely brings any light to the discussion so let’s set Romney aside.

My point was numbers and dollars talk — the LDS troops have the numbers in units and participants while their adherents with the dollars are heard with donations, especially at the council level. This will allow their position to be heard with the clear understanding they have options to go elsewhere.

As to the homosexual population density centers, it seems you have more info than I and it really has no bearing on this discussion.

Have a good day, FRiend.


158 posted on 01/29/2013 10:52:53 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: OriginalChristian

Since I’ve moved away from the council where I was involved for 17 years, I don’t have the contacts I previously did. I do interact with a Scoutmaster that is part of another community group where we are both volunteers so I look forward to seeing him at that meeting next month.

Thanks for that perspective. It seems this is really going to come down to dollars with companies removing support (UPS et al) due to non-discrimination corporate policies. I suspect that, in the future, there will be many who will rue the day and the unintended consequences that will come from this.


159 posted on 01/29/2013 11:01:12 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: IrishBrigade

And also, just my prediction, hope to be proven wrong, but The Tea Party and Rand Paul type Libertarians are going to join together for a third party, however part of the deal will be that Social issues are off the table, so it will not have a Chreistian/pro life/pro family platform, will just be fiscal Conservatives.

They will argue that the economy/spending is so bad that it trumps social issues..

Called BACKSLIDING any way you slice it!

On Hillary 2016, you may be right but I think there will be lots running in primary, Biden will have to point out her problems, Cirry Booker and other Obama wannabees will also run, Hillary could find herself out again.

I have no use for her or any Democrat. I fear I will be saying the same about the NEW third party in short time as well


160 posted on 01/29/2013 1:15:45 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2016 OR BUST)
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To: Common Effing Sense
You do realize the Nazis sent gays to death camps, right? I mean, this BSA thing is sick but let’s not get lost in falsehood here.

Those who choose to engage in homosexual sex are quite disordered. Always a minority -some were morally devoid leftists without conscience that enjoyed perverting truth and imposing their sick and perverted sense of justice upon people. Some were Nazis then, some are Democrats now -all with few exceptions are morally bankrupt useful idiots for evil. They seek to corrupt the Boy Scouts now.

161 posted on 01/29/2013 5:48:20 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: T-Bird45

>>it really has no bearing on this discussion.

Perversion of the LDS capital city is an open FACT,

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=percentage+homosexuals+salt+lake+city

...and it has plenty of bearing on this discussion when the ponzi-scheming, state-established religious ladder-climbers pretentiously presume to impose their opinions upon others.

NO SALE.


162 posted on 01/29/2013 6:50:02 PM PST by TArcher
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To: kristinn

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20121017-boy-scouts-confidential-files-show-pattern-of-grooming-behavior-in-molesters.ece


163 posted on 01/29/2013 9:29:36 PM PST by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: T-Bird45
>>unintended consequences
 
Unintended?  LOL.  Who/what do you think instigated the amoral policy shift within  the corporate collective body in the first place?
 
Eyes Wide Shut much?

 
"Ohhhhho say can you seee...."
 
Eyes Wide Shut

"8-1984 - Lawrence King [Homosexual and alleged Pedophile] throws a lavish party in Dallas, Texas, after singing the National Anthem at the Republican National GOP Convention."

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=Lawrence+king+singing+pedophile+franklin&oq=Lawrence+king+singing+pedophile+franklin

 

http://www.franklincase.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11&Itemid=9


164 posted on 01/30/2013 3:47:00 AM PST by TArcher
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To: T-Bird45
[ the LDS troops have the numbers in units and participants while their adherents with the dollars are heard with donations, especially at the council level]
 
Uhuh.  I seem to recall a Mormon was running Peaceful Valley the summer this creep was active there: 

 
It's now clear those offenses occurred after the homosexual Floyd David Slusher had been booted from a camp in Germany for allegedly the same horse shyte.
 
I was 15 and on Jr. Staff half the summer of '76 when Slusher and his ferret were at PV.    My contact with him was fortunately very limited, however I remember he was not well liked by some, but seemingly admired by others; and when I heard he'd been arrested - I thought "yep, it figures".   I also heard the civilian kitchen staff gave him a good beating for some reason.  I always wondered what happened to that POS but Google doesn't return any results for "Dave Slusher".  Now, thanks to the release of the BSA pervert files, the sordid details are available. 
 
 
When I went up for my Eagle review board later that year the board asked me "What is leadership" - I told them I still wasn't sure what it was but was pretty sure, having observed David Slusher, what it was NOT.
 
Read the arrest record and then tell us all what a wonderful job the Mormon jackwagons running the Colorado BSA were doing back circa 1976.
 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/110542554/Boys-Scouts-of-America-Floyd-David-Slusher-File
 
Slusher's threats to murder his victims are especially chilling. It's evidently very fortunate he got caught early; and raises the question of how many Jeffery Dahmers this new and improved BSA will manufacture.
 
It's absolutely disgusting they allowed Slusher loose as "probationary" predator after knowing his record in Germany.
 
FAIL.

165 posted on 01/30/2013 6:35:18 AM PST by TArcher
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To: TArcher; Admin Moderator

OK, I get it — you had a close brush with a pedophile in your youth that you associate with the LDS people running the Scout camp. From this you’ve extrapolated your views on all things LDS so they can’t possibly run their own youth organization separate from the BSA should the BSA choose to follow the path of least resistance.

Again, I get it and please note that I’m neither LDS nor am I in agreement with any part of their theology. I also was not particularly enamored of Romney as the presidential candidate for the GOP last year. We agree on that much.

Please note I’ve added the Admin Moderator to the address line because I wish no further interaction in this thread or via PM on this subject with you. I do not respond well to mean-spirited cyberstalking. This is your one and only warning from me.


166 posted on 01/30/2013 7:10:34 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Common Effing Sense

read the pink swastika. the ww II nazis used that as a pretext to clean their own ranks of “high risk” embarrasments since homosexuals were very predominant in their ranks. you-know-who got his start by speaking in beer halls frequented by homosexuals. The brownshirts were a deviant club.


167 posted on 01/30/2013 8:16:13 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kristinn

The new BSA will become the Brown-shirted SA to fulfill Obama’s dream of the National Civilian Security Force he so desires!

They already have the correct color shirt with the only thing missing is the proper indoctrination and sodomization!

It will be now more militant and looking even more fabulous!


168 posted on 01/30/2013 3:18:59 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: kristinn

Fox in the henhouse alert!

BSA must be out of their minds to even consider this.

Sure, the parents of America are willing and anxious to deliver their sons to the doorstep of perversion....NOT!


169 posted on 01/30/2013 4:39:40 PM PST by miserare
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To: T-Bird45
you had a close brush with a pedophile in your youth 
Nope, no close brush - just an awarenes of who Slusher was.  That summer I had the pleasure of working at the rifle range with a cantankerous ol' former drill Sgt, not Loyd, the repeat offender pedophile.
 
that you associate with the LDS people running the Scout camp.
Several years later there was another Mormon running PV.   IIRC, there was a week or two where there were nothing but Mormon troops at PV.  My impression was that Mormons had a substantial presence in various BSA councils around Colorado. 
 
Maybe it's the masonic nature of both that renders the association.   That's just speculation. This, OTOH, is FACT:
 
 
Money and numbers.   Uhuh.  The LDS is rooted in lies to begin with, and a Scout is HONEST. 
 
Do the math.
 
NO SALE.
 
 
 

170 posted on 01/30/2013 8:26:48 PM PST by TArcher
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To: kristinn

Disclaimer: I have not read all the post. But I have 4 sons, all of whom where boy scouts. We have had really good experiences with the organization. 3 of my kids did Jamborees and it was an experience of a lifetime.

How will the boy scouts deal with the impending law suits of gay leaders fornicating with kids??

I guess we should no allow men who lust after little girls to be brownie leaders.


171 posted on 01/30/2013 8:47:11 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: kristinn

Disclaimer: I have not read all the post. But I have 4 sons, all of whom where boy scouts. We have had really good experiences with the organization. 3 of my kids did Jamborees and it was an experience of a lifetime.

How will the boy scouts deal with the impending law suits of gay leaders fornicating with kids??

I guess we should not allow men who lust after little girls to be brownie leaders.


172 posted on 01/30/2013 8:47:28 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: kristinn

Disclaimer: I have not read all the post. But I have 4 sons, all of whom where boy scouts. We have had really good experiences with the organization. 3 of my kids did Jamborees and it was an experience of a lifetime.

How will the boy scouts deal with the impending law suits of gay leaders fornicating with kids??

I guess we should now allow men who lust after little girls to be brownie leaders.


173 posted on 01/30/2013 8:48:09 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

Ack, I was afraid of that

Please excuse the duplicate posts.


174 posted on 01/30/2013 8:49:58 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Common Effing Sense

The Nazis sent those they perceived as inferior to themselves to the death camps. Thus the bull queers disposed of the weak effeminate ones.

It’s the same predatory relationship between miscreants that can be observed within prison populations today.


175 posted on 01/30/2013 9:11:23 PM PST by TArcher
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