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NET CALL: THE WAY AHEAD v4.
Blood, Sweat, Tears | 11/18/2012 | Military Cop

Posted on 11/18/2012 7:35:58 AM PST by military cop

This post was written in anger and frustration.

Angry that we continue to follow the Republican Party’s elite ignorance. A party that continues to pull defeat from the jaws of victory characterized by pompous fools who fulfill the sterotype built by the left.

Frustrated that the reality of politics is this: There will be no third party capable of competing with the coalition constructed by the dems. You're living in a dream world if you think that is the way to recover this country.

As a result, true conservatives MUST take steps to eradicate the ignorance of the Republican Party while still adhering to the core values of our forefathers (beliefs that I discovered are considered extreme by over half of my countrymen on election night, BTW).

I have no solve for exactly how to accomplish this. Only advice based on a long military career in several foreign lands for how to defeat the dems once this is accomplished.

This thought process is based on the concept of irregular warfare with twists thrown in here and there for good measure.

With that, I provide the following advice for the good of the order.

LEADERSHIP: The old crew has proven either incompetent or outdated. McConnell and Boehner must go.

They represent a failed plan to defend and resist without clearly explaining their position.

They’ve shown they are content with looking like the bad guys and willing to face public scorn when they don’t realize how important it is to manipulate a clearly left leaning MSM.

They represent the failure of the last four years to our own and obstructionists to the opposition.

We’ve got to show a new face to the nation. That is the genesis of rebuilding this movement. Ryan or Cantor in the House, Rubio, Sessions, or Demint in the Senate.

Fresh leadership shows a clear change to the narrative that the MSM and the democrats have built against the RNC.

If the old guard go willingly and for the good of the country, so be it.

If not, then those I’ve mentioned must wrestle and negotiate and convince and do what it takes for these men to step down.

I’m not talking about the old guard leaving their seats. McConnell can die in place for all I care. I’m talking about the current leadership – who have proven to be a caving, dismal failure – to step aside and become followers to a new approach to this 21st century political fight.

To stand and fight, We MUST HAVE a standard bearer to show the face of the party to the country and rally ALL fragments of conservatism around.

I see no one on the horizon with as much rock star potential and substance as Rubio. These next four years must put him on the center stage with a unified and consolidated message. It also needs to protect him from the attacks from the left that are guaranteed to come.

Everything the Obamites used to deny, deflect, and defuse will be used against them....including the race card. THAT is what will make Rubio a teflon candidate. If you don’t buy this, I’m open to suggestion.

Rubio’s ethnicity in and of itself builds credibility and identity with Hispanics across the nation and opens more of that demographic to the conservative message from jump.

The person is not the issue, the STANDARD BEARER IS.

Change is necessary at the head of the RNC as well. Prebius represents failure and "aw shucks" attitude. A new way to fight requires a true fighter. I don’t see that in him.

I read a headline a few weeks ago that said "100s of Retired Generals Throw Their Support Behind Romney"...It's time for them to serve again, this time within the RNC.

These men can quickly and efficiently change the organization of a party that seems confused as to what the next step is and what to do now.

Pete Schoomaker, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and long time special operator (commanded a Delta Force Squadron during his career )would be a suggestion.

He understands how to translate the concepts I'm talking about into a living, breathing organization prepared to execute this type of operation on a nation-wide scale.

These men represent a change in a party that has been beaten soundly in the last two elections by a charlatan and his traveling circus. A fresh choice in leadership represents change you can TRULY beleive in from every angle. It marks a clear start from inside and outside when we actually started taking this enemy seriously.

GROUND GAME: It is IMPERATIVE to develop and foster an intricate ground game. It requires a MICRO-ANALYSIS of every county, every city, and every early and absentee ballot by demographic to find how how, why, and with what method they voted.

The dems have built quite the coalition but it’s a house of cards; it’s a fractured coalition of single issue voters held together by a media-invested hollyweird worshipping demagogue. They can be piecemealed away bit by bit without sacrificing principle.

Give it to the dems on their “community organizing” machine. We don’t need to reinvent that model. We MUST develop our own. One that will INSTILL our principles in a language tailored to the audience. They’ve tailored theirs on the community organizer, we can create ours around the military special operator.

This is the winning of hearts and minds in our own third world backyard dem strongholds.

It isn’t as difficult as it sounds.

It requires a patient and immediate effort that starts with the post election analysis looking not for what we WANT to find, but for the GROUND TRUTH. GROUND TRUTH is REAL INTELLIGENCE not Rovian number-crunching wishful thinking.

It will require an insurgent effort at the ground level. An infiltration into dem areas that we identify are weak or vulnerable to start cutting in to the blue.

The COIN (insurgeny/counterinsurgency)effort would include the identification of these areas, the infiltration of the areas through churches and charitable organizations AND PARTICULARLY THROUGH EDUCATION.

There ARE like thinkers in these communities. How do we find them? Ask Jesse L. Peterson. Ask JC Watts and Herman Cain. They KNOW how to splinter these vulnerable areas off the blue.

The hispanic issue is RIPE for moving into the red. Catholic, family oriented cultures who believe in being left alone and naturally distrust the government. And they voted Obama? This is the epitome of the single issue voter. the RNC needs to go toe to toe, issue to issue with La Raza, the Marxist mouthpiece in that community, and counter it with a conservative alternative, in that language, at THAT LEVEL.

Think it can’t be done? SOF has been doing it since the end of World War II. It CAN be done.

WE must get deep into the education system to promote the ideals and values of conservatism that should be selling themselves. I’m not talking about traditional public schools and universities. They are ROTTED with liberals. They also aren’t the keys to education in the 21st century.

I’m talking about the new way to educate - the online universities, the trade schools and night schools. Corporate allies need to invest and educate with the ideals of economic and fiscal conservatism.

The RNC needs to lead and develop this effort. A novice like me can see that there is a disconnect between the voting habits of catholic-dominated hispanics and pockets of baptist blacks and their actual stated values. That disconnect can be exploited if it is done slowly, deliberately, and effectively.

INFORMATION WARFARE: We are ATROCIOUS AT THIS. Dems get a simple message out early and often. They poison the well and we are left to change minds rather than get the initial impression right from jump.

We constantly play defense and think we are sooooo clever when dems (as they ALWAYS do) do something stupid or illegal and shocked when the media all but ignores it. We must take the offensive in getting up in every Candy Crowley, every George Stepenopolis’ face and call them what they are: democratic hacks posing as the “objective media”.

WE’VE GOT TO STOP SMILING AND PRETENDING THESE IGNORANT DEM TALKING POINTS DON’T MATTER. THEY DO. Not to us but, for the ignorant who just go with the flow and believe the trash talk talking points the dems customize for the Nintendo generation.

We ABSOLUTELY MUST be proactive. We must attack and COUNTERATTACK at EVERY OPPORTUNITY then add each fail of the dems to a trend and theme. These themes must be simple, tailored, and repetitively broadcast to each target demographic.

We must look out beyond the 5 and 10 meter targets. We’ve got to effectively interpret what the dem message is on the horizon and confront it at all levels - from the national MSM level filtering directly down to the target group level. Even I can see what the talking points of the upcoming week are by watching the Sunday talking head programs. Defense is unacceptable. We can’t pretend that the most outrageous comment won’t gain traction then act surprised when weeks later, that theme picks up steam. ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK and don't give the dems a minute's relief to reset the media battlefield OR the political discourse.

We need to teach this en mass through RNC training programs down to the local level, national and regional teams of propogandists crafting the message and providing instant support to local leaders to advance that message and counter message. EVERY conservative and republican mouthpiece MUST BE SPEAKING IN UNISON.

Alinsky tactics must be turned against their masters. There is GREAT power in ridicule and scorn. They make it too easy to use. It needs to be culturally tailored and consistent. Dennis Miller needs his own show on FNC AND a late night show on Fox. Let him source and promote culturally diverse conservative comedians that vulnerable areas can relate to and remember. Bold Fresh tours aren’t enough.

This is only part of an overall information operation plan that is constant in a simple party message and what it means to each target group.

WE DON’T DO THAT WELL. WHY NOT?

I find it unbelievable that Obama has hijacked the reputation and imagery of the Party of Lincoln. This party represents the core values that ANY LIVING PERSON will relate to if they are challenged and messaged properly.

COIN operations involve a very in depth understanding of cultural idiosyncrasies and how best to exploit them to our advantage. It’s not a “wool-over-the-eyes” approach or a “free shit” approach like the dems sell. THAT ALWAYS COMES UP SHORT. OVERSOLD AND UNDERDELIVERED.

It’s a sell based on how it affects each target group and what it means to them. If it’s done right, I am CONFIDENT that the tenets of conservatism sell themselves.

In Civil Military Operations, assistance in areas that seem unrelated builds trust in the agency. Granted, there’s a fine line between assistance and the giving of free shit but, the special operations forces walk that line well. It can be done. Community outreach in areas that we identify, in ways that we haven’t before can build a larger tent without sacrificing our beliefs.

The military has been doing this in third world countries for years. We’ve been more successful in some areas, less successful in others. In the United States third world strongholds of the Democratic Party,I am confident that it can be done.

Here’s the kicker: There are countless retired special operations planners and operators working overseas as contractors RIGHT NOW. It’s too easy; the RNC needs to hire them as contractors over here.

This is, by far, not the only avenue we’ve got to pursue in order to turn the tide. We must confront and use the power of law, media, technology and the corporate world to form a UNITED MOVEMENT.

WE ARE AT WAR. the RNC must look to the military to rediscover and reorganize. The number-crunching beancounters have their place in the organization but, on their best days, they can only identify who will and won’t vote Republican.

This is a “Hearts and Minds” effort.

It requires a new way to think about the political battlefield.

Rangers Lead the Way.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: attack; vanity

1 posted on 11/18/2012 7:36:02 AM PST by military cop
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To: military cop
This is an interesting piece and contains much food for thought. However, there are parts that are (IMO) incorrect.

The hispanic issue is RIPE for moving into the red. Catholic, family oriented cultures who believe in being left alone and naturally distrust the government.

None of this is true. The GOP has fooled itself for years that Hispanic Catholics really want to be Conservative. And that African-Americans, because they care about God, because of their disdain homosexuality, etc. etc, are also ripe for recruitment in a Conservative bow-wave. Nope. None of this is true.

Also: Advancement in the military is a political game. The folks at the top get to the top because they are politically correct and because they go along with the prevailing winds. Getting top military minds to recreate the GOP is likely to give us ... the GOP-e.

I think some of the ideas in this piece have promise, but some do not. We (Conservatives) have a history of fooling ourselves through unwarranted optimism.

2 posted on 11/18/2012 7:48:11 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: military cop
There will be no third party capable of competing with the coalition constructed by the dems.

And RINOs.

Don't think they don't see what has happened to their fellow relics of The Ice Age like Richard Lugar, Charlie Crist and whoever that fossil from Utah was.

They are protecting their own turf.

And, right now, John Boehner and Mitch McConnell must rut to continue the species.

We, Tea Partiers, are the politcial equivalent of the poor guy who is rotting in jail for making a sucky YouTube video.

We get blamed for things that are out of our control and are never appreciated for the point we are trying to get across.

Ah, well. I guess they'll have to learn the hard way.

Meanwhile, we are planting a garden, growing fruit trees growing (or whatever you call it) chickens for eggs and food (they only lay for a few years and after that they just cost money) and we will probably end up getting a goat for milk.

Oh, yeah. And investing in lead.

3 posted on 11/18/2012 7:50:31 AM PST by Texas Eagle (1)
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To: military cop

The Republicans ran a good honest campaign, the people want socialism and can steal the votes needed to win.We need to unite and overcome evil.


4 posted on 11/18/2012 7:52:13 AM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: military cop

It’s too late.

They own the media, they own entertainment, they own education, they own unelected government offices, they own elected government offices. Their planning has been meticulous and unending and their execution flawless.

Meanwhile our side has done nothing and it has learned nothing. The water is boiling and has been for sometime. Not only is their no jumping out of the pot, there is a fastened lid on the pot.

Whatever destination the enemy set for us, we will arrive at. There is no avoiding it now. The only way America can or will rise again is as the phoenix, but I do not think that will happen, because one thing that I have learned through all of this is that as a whole, mankind is evil.


5 posted on 11/18/2012 7:55:49 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: military cop

Eric Cantor knew about Gen Petraeus on Oct 27, but did nothing to let the Republicans know — So you lost me when you mentioned Cantor as a leader.


6 posted on 11/18/2012 7:56:33 AM PST by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Catholic is not a good indicator of conservative values. mediterranean catholic nations are corrupt beyond belief, others are socialist. Hispanics will want all the freebies, and more, since they have been assimilating victimhood for years.


7 posted on 11/18/2012 7:56:44 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: winkadink
Also, Petraeus is an example of why the military model would not likely be helpful to Conservatives. Petraeus is a fine military mind. Is he in a position to rip the over off the Obama administration? Does he know how rotten our government is? I would say "Yes". I'm quite sure that Petraeus knows things that would curl your hair. But is he telling us anything? Hope. He's looking out for himself. He's worried that events may not go in his favor if he says too much.

So Petraeus allows America to go on its way, to Hell. That's what I would expect any top military leader to do. They exemplify the GOP-e.

8 posted on 11/18/2012 8:03:24 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; military cop
The hispanic issue is RIPE for moving into the red. Catholic, family oriented cultures who believe in being left alone and naturally distrust the government

On evening and weekends, I work at a talk radio station that also broadcasts aCatholic Spanish language music and prayer show.

They are as brainwashed as any of the 70% or so of the Hispanic Catholics who voted for Ubama.

True, it wouldn't hurt to try airing a few commercials in that market to see how it goes but I think the most surprising thing happened on election day that we have more control over is appealing to the white voters who stayed home.

I'm sure you've heard by now that Mitt Romney received something like 2 million fewer votes than McCain in 2008. True, Ubama received something like 9 million fewer voters, but that stands to reason. He didn't follow through on their expectations.

I think we can safely assume the 2 million who didn't turn out for Romney felt the same way.

They probably didn't think Romney represented enough of a contrast to Ubama so why bother voting?

Or maybe they were just lazy.

In which case, they would've voted for Ubama anyway.

I don't know. I'm just a guy sitting on his couch drinking gross tasting coffee (we ran out of my favorite creamer, French Vanilla) and eating Pop-Tarts (my favorite flavor, unfrosted Brown Sugar Cinnamon).

9 posted on 11/18/2012 8:05:57 AM PST by Texas Eagle (1)
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To: King Moonracer

Look at the stats: White Catholics voted against Obama.


10 posted on 11/18/2012 8:12:01 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Texas Eagle
Romney is already up to 59.5M, with many votes remaining to be counted. He's almost certainly going to pass McCain's 60M.
11 posted on 11/18/2012 8:16:21 AM PST by Ken H
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To: military cop

We need to toss political correctness and tell the youth the truth about everything.

The truth will radicalize the youth which is what we need.


12 posted on 11/18/2012 8:16:43 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: winkadink

Youre missing the point:

The “who” doesn’t matter, it’s the concept that is important.

Read on.


13 posted on 11/18/2012 8:22:23 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: chris37

You roll over. I choose to fight and I’m wide open to suggestion on solutions, not hand-wringing absolutes.

There’s an old infantry saying:

“The cowards never left and the weak quit along the way.......that leaves us”.

Where do you stand?

Rangers Lead the Way.


14 posted on 11/18/2012 8:24:22 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: Ken H
Thanks for the assist. I forgot it takes a while to count the absentee ballot.

Even so, with the increase in voter age population (I'm assuming there was one), it still illustrates that Romney didn't represent enough of a contrast with Ubama to motivate more people to vote for him.

It wasn't the people's job to fall in line and vote for Romney, it was his job to give them some incentive to vote for him.

Romney tried to win by not going on traditional Conservative outlets like talk radio. Probably because he knew he'd be too easily painted into a corner even by a host who was trying to throw him softballs.

15 posted on 11/18/2012 8:24:32 AM PST by Texas Eagle (1)
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To: military cop

4 l8tr bump ...


16 posted on 11/18/2012 8:26:19 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Big Horn

Then help me spread this.

This isn’t the one and only idea. It’s just MY thoughts based on MY experiences.

We’ve got to consolidate and start to move forward. I feel like the RNC is just going to sit around bemoaning it’s ass whipping then go back and do the same thing in the same way in 2016.

Only at the grass roots level can we affect change. The TEA Party movement proved that.


17 posted on 11/18/2012 8:31:01 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The Dems will win as long as they “gimmie” welfare/bennies voters plus the Dem Party loyalists of fraud voting continue.

The Dems do not oppose voter id because of concern for inconvenience, despite even Mexico using a strict voter id for voting anti-fraud. The Dems are the Party of voter fraud and so oppose any measure to make elections honest.

Vote fraud, illegal foreign money, plus the trillion dollar value of the MSM being the propaganda arm of the Dem Party ala Pravda/Tass of the old USSR, means ANY Repub/Conservative win no matter how narrow would be a landslide if the USA has honest Media and elections.

Face it, the USA is now just another corrupt “3rd World” Police State that has lost God’s blessing/protection.

Things will get a lot worse.
Obaba will stack the Supreme, etc Court with more Leftist hacks. Continue to take away income and freedoms.

The Blacks will support him no matter what because he is black and gives the best freebies. The low income Mexicans/illegals will vote for him for the freebies. And white Liberals who are idiots/bad/insane enough to be Liberals, will not suddenly get a brain.

Big money continues to back the Leftist Revolution like it did in pre-Red Russia/China/etc. The top US military leadership will follow Obaba/Dems off the clift to keep their jobs and perks. They are bought off one way or another.

If the 2010 Tea Party election tsunami could be so soon lost only two years later, there is little hope though the struggle must continue despite the high odds.

USA will be truly lost forever when the 25 to 30 million and counting illegals get citizenship. They are low income and will vote for the Party of Gimmie’s.

But where to go? When the USA goes Police State, as Russia has observed, where is the land of freedom? Costa Rica or some such tiny, poor State easily intimidated by stronger neighbors or the new evil Empire? Socialist Europe? Red China...though at the rate things are going, it may be comparatively more free than the USSA, at least economically. Canada with its gun control and other leftist policies?

Freedom is being lost in the World.

There has been a slow, quiet revolution in the USA and the USA of the Constitution has been overthrown by Obaba and his Dems whose only use for the U.S.Constitution is to use it for butt wipe.

It used to be said that the USSR had a good Constitution but which was ignored. Sound familiar anyone?


18 posted on 11/18/2012 8:32:09 AM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: Texas Eagle
Romney got the evangelical vote in record numbers according to Ralph Reed. Also note that Romney's vote total is now a couple of million higher than when this article was written..

A national post-election survey commissioned by the Faith and Freedom Coalition last night found that the evangelical vote increased in 2012 to a record 27% of the electorate and that white evangelicals voted roughly 78% for Mitt Romney to 21% for Barack Obama. This was the highest share of the vote in modern political history for evangelicals, Reed said.

“Evangelicals turned out in record numbers and voted as heavily for Mitt Romney yesterday as they did for George W. Bush in 2004,” Reed observed.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/11/07/poll-evangelical-turnout-increased-in-2012-over-2008/

19 posted on 11/18/2012 8:32:09 AM PST by Ken H
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To: Big Horn
The Republicans ran a good honest campaign, the people want socialism and can steal the votes needed to win.We need to unite and overcome evil.

You have hit it out of the park. The education system of the USA has been taken over by the commies back in the late 1960s and we are now reaping what they have sown. We have at least two generations of America haters (they may not realize it) that have been thoroughly indoctrinated by "the system".

I was no way in favor of the flawed candidate Mittens but once he won the nomination I supported him and until the last two debates with the clown - when he became wussified - I thought he ran an admirable campaign. BUT folk can examine every aspect of this election in order to find the reason the GOP lost - the simple reason is the American Sheeple. They want a celeb President that is an empty suit and they want CAPITALISM abolished in the USA.

Looks like the RATS have a winning hand - took many decades but evil is patient.

I read a Pravda or Canada Free press article about a year ago (cannot find it now), but their conclusion was that in order to fix what is ailing America in the 2010s, we may have to be "to blow the system up and start over."
20 posted on 11/18/2012 8:33:53 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: military cop

Romney was hardly a conservative, and the GOP-e did everything they could to disparage conservatism in general and the Tea Party in particular.

Of those Romney voters who didn’t vote, I suspect conservatives make up a huge percentage. We all knew Romney just wanted to manage the current mess, not to dismantle it or make massive changes.

Another angle worth considering (IMHO) is a jihad against vote fraud. Across the board, we must eliminate ALL vote fraud, in all forms. Any election that comes within 5 points can by swung by fraud, it appears, and it is almost always the Dems who benefit from that cheating. We must take that weapon away from them!


21 posted on 11/18/2012 8:40:13 AM PST by DNME (It's never over. Never.)
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To: Ken H
...the evangelical vote increased in 2012 to a record 27% of the electorate...

27% reflects a RECORD turnout??? You're not even trying to cheer me up, are you?

22 posted on 11/18/2012 8:42:46 AM PST by Texas Eagle (1)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You talk from your experience, I talk from mine.

Hispanics in the south ARE ripe for moving into the red. As are select demographics in the rural south who wouldn’t even know they are black without BET and t he rest of the medai telling them they need to act like a Philadelphia thug.

i AM TELLING YOU, I interact DAILY in these realms and know what I’m talking about.

Stop thinking about the demographics en mass.

There are more factors than just color and religion.

That’s the failure of the RNC: This “All hispanics like tacos. let’s give them tacos” mentality.

The hispanic population in this country is SEVERELY fragmented - Cubanos can’t stand Puerto Ricans who can’t stand Mexicans who can’t stand Guatemalans, etc.

You’re flat out wrong about the military. Special operators are OVERWHELMINGLY representative and beleive in the same values that you and I do. Schoomaker comes from that stock - as do others who prefered to apply their skills elsewhere rather than stay in the political realms within the army. Go look up Colonel Pete Blaber to validate THIS statement.

There is power in a counterinsurgent effort to seperate the dems from their weakest allies.

There is power in confronting the media at every turn in an aggressive and unforgiving manner.

There is power in fragmenting this vote. START THINKING OUTSIDE THE NINE DOT BOX.

I hear alot of handwringing and “woe is us” talk on this site. Good thing it wasn’t around during the first revolution in this country.

I’ve got ideas. You start preaching yours.

At some point, we of like minds and values will come to a consensus but, it needs to be sooner than later.

If not, the status quo will likely put the two of us in a fighting position somewhere someday.

Rangers Lead the Way.


23 posted on 11/18/2012 8:44:06 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: DNME

You’re absolutely right! Don’t limit my ideas to the only fronts this battle needs to be in. The legal front is as inmportant as ANY.

If we don’t get satisfaction within the system to root out and confront votoer fraud, we need to do it by any mean in both the civil and criminal system.

In every state and federal court, we’ve got to grab the issue of voter fraud like a mad dog and don’t let go of it.

This message has to be part of the overall RNC message in simplistic terms as to WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT TO THE INDIVIDUAL - by target audience demographic.

Keep it coming, I’m wide open to ideas.

RLTW


24 posted on 11/18/2012 8:48:53 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: Texas Eagle
27% reflects a RECORD turnout???

27% of the electorate. As of now there are 125M votes tallied, so that means about 34M evangelical votes.

25 posted on 11/18/2012 8:54:41 AM PST by Ken H
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To: military cop

I do respect your positive attitude, honestly.

You cannot expect to win a game of chess when you start in checkmate.

Where they are taking us, we are going to arrive. Perhaps there are options for after that point, but the fact is this. Where ever stands the shining beacon of freedom, evil men will plot to destroy it.

That is the nature of evil men.

Since I do not believe we have any moves to make at this point, because the game is now over, I will contribute this.

What the evil men are using to achieve victory is liberalism/ communism. I ask myself why is it so prevalent? Not only here but all around the world. I do not agree with Michael Savage on very much, but he is mostly right when he says Liberalism is a mental disorder, but I believe it is something more sinister.

What it is is malicious code of the human mind. It is an expertly crafted organic malicious code that is not only self replicating, but it exploits known flaws of the human psyche just as a computer virus would. It is extremely effective. Some people are naturally able to resist it for varying reasons, but most are not. Once a single “strand” of this thought is introduced into a population, it is only a matter of time before it becomes prevailent.

There is essentially no counter measure to this on our side. I say essentially, because the only resistance to this, in my eyes, is our conservative radio broadcasters who daily broadcast the counter philosophy, but it is a more difficult sell, because it involves personal responsibility and individual motivation. It reaches some, but not most.

If it were not for these men, there would be no conservatism whatsoever, because there is no source code other than them. When and if they are gone, that will be a dark day. If you look at other countries in the world where there are no sources for conservative thought, there is no conservatism. It all depends on who gets to you first. Whomever that is will plant the one of two seeds, and those seeds will grow.

The commies know this, and thus are trying to get access to children as early as possible, and they are succeeding.

I tell you this, militarycop, becaue I believe that in order to win we must correctly assess our circumstance and our enemy. Right now we are in checkmate, and if we were to follow the same paths again, we would be in checkmate again.

I can only say this. In order for a free society to exist, the source code of the enemy must be eliminated immediately, as soon as it is spotted. Yes, that is harsh, but if one intends to be free, then one must be prepared to defend it in such a way that its enenmy dare not even show its face lest it no longer have one.


26 posted on 11/18/2012 8:57:17 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

40 % of white Catholics voted for an abortionist. Did 59% vote against Obama for being catholic, or for being a tax payers? Spain and Italy are corrupt hellholes. Ireland and France are socialist.


27 posted on 11/18/2012 9:02:25 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Ken H
27% of the electorate.

How's that different from what I said?

28 posted on 11/18/2012 9:03:44 AM PST by Texas Eagle (1)
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To: military cop

For the 1 millionth time, you cannot defeat Santa Clause. You cannot win against the party of freebies. You cannot win against free money. The Democrats promise money from the teasury to buy votes. Even the Romans knew that spelled the end of the country.


29 posted on 11/18/2012 9:05:54 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: military cop

ZoNation says that too many people are already talking about the next conservative ticket without doing any of the groundwork to make that ticket more receivable. He says that’s like painting a room without laying any tarp or taping anything up.

Watch:

http://www.therightscoop.com/zonation-to-conservatives-win-the-culture-and-you-win-the-country/


30 posted on 11/18/2012 9:12:03 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: All

Here is one guy who the young kids can relate to as he has a brilliant quirkiness in how he teaches conservatism:

The Joy of Hate: How to Triumph over Whiners in the Age of Phony Outrage

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307986969/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk


31 posted on 11/18/2012 9:18:00 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: King Moonracer
40% is still a smaller proportion than other voters, otherwise he wouldn't have been elected.

Give it a rest. All religions have their apostates, and it looks like there were no exceptions this last round.

Last time I checked, an awful lot of us are trying NOT to make this a euro-trash hellhole.

Perhaps you would better spend your time attacking the real enemies--the ones who are deceiving the masses who vote for Socialist, instead of running around with a broad brush painting the people on your side, too.

Or is it just that you are looking for an excuse to attack Catholics?

32 posted on 11/18/2012 9:29:50 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: military cop

They expect confrontation and combat. To win we must come from an entirely unexpected place, way, way outside the box. This may mean apparent agreement with them and pressing that to its next logical point.

For instance, accept that Obama “did not know”, was “totally surprised” by all the things he says he did not know. Then accuse those surrounding him, his staff, the press, the CIA, the FBI, or whomever did know and did not inform him properly of being racists, of dog whistles, of keeping the black President outside of their little elitist, traditional, white organizational structure in order to make him look bad or because they don’t think he can handle the truth, as they treat him as merely their puppet or spokesperson.

The point is, people knew things that were obviously vital for any President to know, and, apparently, if we are to believe the President, he did not know. So, why did they not tell him what he needed to know to lead and govern? Answer: because he is African-American.These “haters” or at best “incompetents” need to be immediately identified and dismissed in order to protect the President.

Buy their lies and then go to “therefore....”


33 posted on 11/18/2012 9:30:12 AM PST by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: CodeToad

Then bury your head in the sand. I’ll come get you when we’re through.

What did Burke say? “Evil rules when good men do nothing”.

He also said “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.”

You make your choice. I’ve made mine.

Rangers Lead the Way.


34 posted on 11/18/2012 9:32:20 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: Anima Mundi

Keep going. This is the beginning of the theme..

It can’t be a singular theme but, a theme on this issue tied in a simple way to other issues and wrapped around cetral tenets.

You are dead on with the unexpected place. Strike where they arent prepared to respond.

RLTW


35 posted on 11/18/2012 9:35:46 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: military cop

For all your bravado and arrogance, KMA. Platitudes are not action, they are merely words for the feeble minded.


36 posted on 11/18/2012 9:49:51 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Not attacking Catholics, but the original point that Catholic Hispanics have conservative values is bunk. Hispanic culture tends towards being a “looter”. Being Catholic does not make them conservative.


37 posted on 11/18/2012 9:52:35 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: CodeToad

If all the Democrat voters want is money, then they are sure being bought cheap. I don’t think it’s money that motivates them, I think that it’s fear.


38 posted on 11/18/2012 10:07:14 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: CodeToad

Keep the urination for distance comments inside your bunker. If you’re not part of the solution you’re part of the problem.

Bravado and arrogance are for those who haven’t been there or done that.

Rangers Lead the Way.


39 posted on 11/18/2012 10:16:39 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: military cop
You're not really interested in forming alliances, making friends, building coalitions, or having a rational discussion on points of disagreement are you?

You seem pretty focused on attacking all Conservatives who don't "measure up" to your standards.

Have fun with that.

40 posted on 11/18/2012 10:21:20 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Wrong answer, sir.

I’m looking for solutions to an identified problem.

Sticking your head in the sand and pulling the “All Is Lost” handle isn’t exactly the type of progress that will advance this forum’s cause.

I’m WIDE open to suggstions. I just don’t consider “Surrender” or “Run Away” to be viable options.

By your tagline, I don’t believe you do either.

So where’s YOUR “matchstick”?

RLTW


41 posted on 11/18/2012 10:30:04 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: military cop
You are a disrepecting low-level liberal to come here and claim no one has taken serious action. Did you go to the TEA Party rally in DC? Here, point out those in this image from that day that haven't done enough. Oh, and point out your picture. I am sure with your immature bravado you must have been there. I don't think you are a conservative whatsoever to come here and say the disrespectful things you are saying in the corny ways you are saying them. You're probably 19 and a Call of Duty player.


42 posted on 11/18/2012 11:02:03 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad

Hate to break it to you but, I am the real deal.

I work for two branches of the government represetned by my screen name....

And I take significant risk in continuing to post here.

But, I believe in what I’m talking about.

Aim your crosshairs on the enemy, not in your own foxhole.

RLTW.


43 posted on 11/18/2012 11:06:30 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: blueunicorn6

“then they are sure being bought cheap. “

Yes, they are, but when you look at the total take for welfare programs you find the average is about $27,000 and as high as $67,000. To you and me maybe that isn’t squat, but to them that is public housing or a rent subsidized apartment, food, phones, etc, and allows then expensive sneakers, clothing, and an HDTV. It allows them to live while making very little money otherwise.

I know several “disabled” people that live on that and refuse, even though they are able bodied, to go to work and make more. One is 32 and the other 55 years old. Both could easily work but “disability” pays them about $700/month plus reduced utilities, food stamps of $270/month, free cable and Internet, reduced cell phone costs, free medical care, etc. To them working the disability/welfare system is their job.

How did they get disability/welfare?

The 32 year old had a work related shoulder injury. During surgery she claimed mental depression due to her childhood, which wasn’t bad she is just a total crybaby. Her State appointed therapist claimed she needed continued therapy and 100% disability was granted so she could get it. See the train of thought there: The therapist wrote her note for 100% so she could continue to go to the therapist. Fox, hen house.

The 55 year old actually was kidnapped and tortured and raped for 3 days and she escaped through a plate glass window while the guy was out looking for a place to bury her body. For that, she claims mental instability, a 100% disability. Same deal: Therapist writes the note for continued therapy.


44 posted on 11/18/2012 11:11:34 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: military cop; CodeToad; ClearCase_guy
Mil Cop seems legit. Go easy, guys.

mc, a word of advice: if you are a newbie, go slow and earn your chops. You know the drill, coming into a new place and demanding people do it or think it your way, never works.

45 posted on 11/18/2012 11:27:55 AM PST by Lazamataz (Mankind must be extinguished. We are a pox on the universe.)
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To: military cop

Thank you for this post.


46 posted on 11/18/2012 11:39:35 AM PST by thecodont
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To: Lazamataz; military cop; CodeToad

I’m sure he’s the real deal and I’m sure his intentions are very good. He’s just coming across as aggressive, argumentative, and obnoxious. I work with military people like that every day. They don’t get a lot accomplished, because no one wants to work with them. But they don’t really notice how ineffective they are because they’re too busy pointing fingers at everyone else.


47 posted on 11/18/2012 11:42:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: military cop

“Hate to break it to you but, I am the real deal.”

Over-the-top bravado, referencing the Rangers, etc., is all kid type bullsh*t. Go play your video games and stop insulting those that have taken action in this political situation, n00b.


48 posted on 11/18/2012 11:42:24 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m demanding nothing. I’ve been here since 2001 and have earned the right to make suggestions.

I’ve watched too many people tryingto initiate ideas get run off a website that I’ve come to rely on to know that there are those like minded.

go back and read what I wrote in this post. I see no arrogance in what I point out.

I think a lot of others would agree.


49 posted on 11/18/2012 12:29:51 PM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: CodeToad

I’m proud of the tab I’ve earned and far from being a noob.

Didn’t realize a resume was a requirement to give my opinion but I can assure you, I’ve never played video games and I am who I say I am.

How bout you reread my post and find the arrogance for me?

Continuing to belittle those in your own camp won’t.

RLTW


50 posted on 11/18/2012 1:10:28 PM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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