NET CALL: THE WAY AHEAD v4.

Blood, Sweat, Tears | 11/18/2012 | Military Cop

[ClearCase_guy]

This is an interesting piece and contains much food for thought. However, there are parts that are (IMO) incorrect.

The hispanic issue is RIPE for moving into the red. Catholic, family oriented cultures who believe in being left alone and naturally distrust the government.

None of this is true. The GOP has fooled itself for years that Hispanic Catholics really want to be Conservative. And that African-Americans, because they care about God, because of their disdain homosexuality, etc. etc, are also ripe for recruitment in a Conservative bow-wave. Nope. None of this is true.

Also: Advancement in the military is a political game. The folks at the top get to the top because they are politically correct and because they go along with the prevailing winds. Getting top military minds to recreate the GOP is likely to give us ... the GOP-e.

I think some of the ideas in this piece have promise, but some do not. We (Conservatives) have a history of fooling ourselves through unwarranted optimism.

[Texas Eagle]

There will be no third party capable of competing with the coalition constructed by the dems.

And RINOs.

Don't think they don't see what has happened to their fellow relics of The Ice Age like Richard Lugar, Charlie Crist and whoever that fossil from Utah was.

They are protecting their own turf.

And, right now, John Boehner and Mitch McConnell must rut to continue the species.

We, Tea Partiers, are the politcial equivalent of the poor guy who is rotting in jail for making a sucky YouTube video.

We get blamed for things that are out of our control and are never appreciated for the point we are trying to get across.

Ah, well. I guess they'll have to learn the hard way.

Meanwhile, we are planting a garden, growing fruit trees growing (or whatever you call it) chickens for eggs and food (they only lay for a few years and after that they just cost money) and we will probably end up getting a goat for milk.

Oh, yeah. And investing in lead.

[Big Horn]

The Republicans ran a good honest campaign, the people want socialism and can steal the votes needed to win.We need to unite and overcome evil.

[chris37]

It’s too late.

They own the media, they own entertainment, they own education, they own unelected government offices, they own elected government offices. Their planning has been meticulous and unending and their execution flawless.

Meanwhile our side has done nothing and it has learned nothing. The water is boiling and has been for sometime. Not only is their no jumping out of the pot, there is a fastened lid on the pot.

Whatever destination the enemy set for us, we will arrive at. There is no avoiding it now. The only way America can or will rise again is as the phoenix, but I do not think that will happen, because one thing that I have learned through all of this is that as a whole, mankind is evil.

[winkadink]

Eric Cantor knew about Gen Petraeus on Oct 27, but did nothing to let the Republicans know — So you lost me when you mentioned Cantor as a leader.

[King Moonracer]

Catholic is not a good indicator of conservative values. mediterranean catholic nations are corrupt beyond belief, others are socialist. Hispanics will want all the freebies, and more, since they have been assimilating victimhood for years.

[ClearCase_guy]

Also, Petraeus is an example of why the military model would not likely be helpful to Conservatives. Petraeus is a fine military mind. Is he in a position to rip the over off the Obama administration? Does he know how rotten our government is? I would say "Yes". I'm quite sure that Petraeus knows things that would curl your hair. But is he telling us anything? Hope. He's looking out for himself. He's worried that events may not go in his favor if he says too much.

So Petraeus allows America to go on its way, to Hell. That's what I would expect any top military leader to do. They exemplify the GOP-e.

[Texas Eagle]

The hispanic issue is RIPE for moving into the red. Catholic, family oriented cultures who believe in being left alone and naturally distrust the government

On evening and weekends, I work at a talk radio station that also broadcasts aCatholic Spanish language music and prayer show.

They are as brainwashed as any of the 70% or so of the Hispanic Catholics who voted for Ubama.

True, it wouldn't hurt to try airing a few commercials in that market to see how it goes but I think the most surprising thing happened on election day that we have more control over is appealing to the white voters who stayed home.

I'm sure you've heard by now that Mitt Romney received something like 2 million fewer votes than McCain in 2008. True, Ubama received something like 9 million fewer voters, but that stands to reason. He didn't follow through on their expectations.

I think we can safely assume the 2 million who didn't turn out for Romney felt the same way.

They probably didn't think Romney represented enough of a contrast to Ubama so why bother voting?

Or maybe they were just lazy.

In which case, they would've voted for Ubama anyway.

I don't know. I'm just a guy sitting on his couch drinking gross tasting coffee (we ran out of my favorite creamer, French Vanilla) and eating Pop-Tarts (my favorite flavor, unfrosted Brown Sugar Cinnamon).

[Smokin' Joe]

Look at the stats: White Catholics voted against Obama.

[Ken H]

Romney is already up to 59.5M, with many votes remaining to be counted. He's almost certainly going to pass McCain's 60M.

[donna]

We need to toss political correctness and tell the youth the truth about everything.

The truth will radicalize the youth which is what we need.

[military cop]

Youre missing the point:

The “who” doesn’t matter, it’s the concept that is important.

Read on.

[military cop]

You roll over. I choose to fight and I’m wide open to suggestion on solutions, not hand-wringing absolutes.

There’s an old infantry saying:

“The cowards never left and the weak quit along the way.......that leaves us”.

Where do you stand?

Rangers Lead the Way.

[Texas Eagle]

Thanks for the assist. I forgot it takes a while to count the absentee ballot.

Even so, with the increase in voter age population (I'm assuming there was one), it still illustrates that Romney didn't represent enough of a contrast with Ubama to motivate more people to vote for him.

It wasn't the people's job to fall in line and vote for Romney, it was his job to give them some incentive to vote for him.

Romney tried to win by not going on traditional Conservative outlets like talk radio. Probably because he knew he'd be too easily painted into a corner even by a host who was trying to throw him softballs.

[Tunehead54]

4 l8tr bump ...

[military cop]

Then help me spread this.

This isn’t the one and only idea. It’s just MY thoughts based on MY experiences.

We’ve got to consolidate and start to move forward. I feel like the RNC is just going to sit around bemoaning it’s ass whipping then go back and do the same thing in the same way in 2016.

Only at the grass roots level can we affect change. The TEA Party movement proved that.

[OldArmy52]

The Dems will win as long as they “gimmie” welfare/bennies voters plus the Dem Party loyalists of fraud voting continue.

The Dems do not oppose voter id because of concern for inconvenience, despite even Mexico using a strict voter id for voting anti-fraud. The Dems are the Party of voter fraud and so oppose any measure to make elections honest.

Vote fraud, illegal foreign money, plus the trillion dollar value of the MSM being the propaganda arm of the Dem Party ala Pravda/Tass of the old USSR, means ANY Repub/Conservative win no matter how narrow would be a landslide if the USA has honest Media and elections.

Face it, the USA is now just another corrupt “3rd World” Police State that has lost God’s blessing/protection.

Things will get a lot worse.
Obaba will stack the Supreme, etc Court with more Leftist hacks. Continue to take away income and freedoms.

The Blacks will support him no matter what because he is black and gives the best freebies. The low income Mexicans/illegals will vote for him for the freebies. And white Liberals who are idiots/bad/insane enough to be Liberals, will not suddenly get a brain.

Big money continues to back the Leftist Revolution like it did in pre-Red Russia/China/etc. The top US military leadership will follow Obaba/Dems off the clift to keep their jobs and perks. They are bought off one way or another.

If the 2010 Tea Party election tsunami could be so soon lost only two years later, there is little hope though the struggle must continue despite the high odds.

USA will be truly lost forever when the 25 to 30 million and counting illegals get citizenship. They are low income and will vote for the Party of Gimmie’s.

But where to go? When the USA goes Police State, as Russia has observed, where is the land of freedom? Costa Rica or some such tiny, poor State easily intimidated by stronger neighbors or the new evil Empire? Socialist Europe? Red China...though at the rate things are going, it may be comparatively more free than the USSA, at least economically. Canada with its gun control and other leftist policies?

Freedom is being lost in the World.

There has been a slow, quiet revolution in the USA and the USA of the Constitution has been overthrown by Obaba and his Dems whose only use for the U.S.Constitution is to use it for butt wipe.

It used to be said that the USSR had a good Constitution but which was ignored. Sound familiar anyone?

[Ken H]

Romney got the evangelical vote in record numbers according to Ralph Reed. Also note that Romney's vote total is now a couple of million higher than when this article was written..

A national post-election survey commissioned by the Faith and Freedom Coalition last night found that the evangelical vote increased in 2012 to a record 27% of the electorate and that white evangelicals voted roughly 78% for Mitt Romney to 21% for Barack Obama. This was the highest share of the vote in modern political history for evangelicals, Reed said.

“Evangelicals turned out in record numbers and voted as heavily for Mitt Romney yesterday as they did for George W. Bush in 2004,” Reed observed.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/11/07/poll-evangelical-turnout-increased-in-2012-over-2008/

[Cheerio]

The Republicans ran a good honest campaign, the people want socialism and can steal the votes needed to win.We need to unite and overcome evil.

You have hit it out of the park. The education system of the USA has been taken over by the commies back in the late 1960s and we are now reaping what they have sown. We have at least two generations of America haters (they may not realize it) that have been thoroughly indoctrinated by "the system".

I was no way in favor of the flawed candidate Mittens but once he won the nomination I supported him and until the last two debates with the clown - when he became wussified - I thought he ran an admirable campaign. BUT folk can examine every aspect of this election in order to find the reason the GOP lost - the simple reason is the American Sheeple. They want a celeb President that is an empty suit and they want CAPITALISM abolished in the USA.

Looks like the RATS have a winning hand - took many decades but evil is patient.

I read a Pravda or Canada Free press article about a year ago (cannot find it now), but their conclusion was that in order to fix what is ailing America in the 2010s, we may have to be "to blow the system up and start over."