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Liberated Iraq calls on Arab states to use oil as 'weapon' against U.S.
Fox News ^ | 11/16/2012

Posted on 11/16/2012 12:03:01 PM PST by SargeK

A top Iraqi diplomat urged Arab states to “use the weapon of oil” against the United States because of its alliance with Israel, raising more questions about the Middle Eastern nation's allegiance to the nation that freed it from a ruthless dictatorship.

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To: DoughtyOne; wideawake

One sees precious little evidence that this “gentleman’s” views are much at variance with the rest of his government or for that matter the vast majority of the population of this benighted region.

I cannot agree with your drawing an equivalence between Europe post-WWII and the modern middle east. For one, we occupied Europe for fifty years. In a sense, we still do. Europe responded to the Marshall Plan and evolved. Maybe only because of total war, and they were finally exhausted of war and susceptible to change. Maybe the cushy welfare state we financed for them kept them fat and content. Anyway, Western Europe has avoided butchering one another for over half a century. Although, I think that is backsliding as we watch. Tribalism is on the rise in Europe as the welfare state collapses and the vestigial cultural differences are again emerging. Without an occupying power it will be interesting to see where this leads.

As for our own illustrious Premier (it seems fitting to use an honorific compatible with his political orientation) - I believe my brief comment on his opposition to the development of domestic sources of petroleum is sufficient.


41 posted on 11/16/2012 1:27:41 PM PST by SargeK
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To: ScottinVA

Yep. On the wrong side in that one thanks to Clintoooon.


42 posted on 11/16/2012 1:54:42 PM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: SargeK

So much for gratitude. Next time, give imperialism a chance.


43 posted on 11/16/2012 1:55:11 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: ScottinVA

I agree, and so does my stepson who served as a tank driver in Iraqi Freedom. The only thing these ragheads understand is brute force, and we were much better off leaving the secular dictators in place and letting them kill each other off.


44 posted on 11/16/2012 2:30:21 PM PST by patriotsblood
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To: liberalh8ter

A great deal of blood and sweat was shed to give Iraq an opportunity. The jury is still out, however it does not look promising.


45 posted on 11/16/2012 2:33:08 PM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: SargeK

Instead of bombing Iraq to smithereens and leaving, Bush just had to do nation-building, spending $1T along the way, and giving us Obama and two far left Supreme Court judges. Bush’s “compassionate conservatism” as applied to foreign affairs really screwed us big time. And the leading lights of the GOP are now looking to apply Bush’s policy towards any Arab troglodytes who want to overthrow their governments. What part of “inside every foreigner *isn’t* an American struggling to get out” don’t they understand? The way democracy works is garbage in, garbage out. America-haters will vote in an America-hating government. Ultimately, the neo-con manifesto is yet another example of the triumph of hope over experience in dictating foreign policy - disaster after disaster leaves these fantasists completely unfazed.


46 posted on 11/16/2012 8:59:06 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SargeK

You ought to be pissed off at Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle, and the other neocons who pushed us into this stupid invasion. Remember their promises? It will be quick and easy, the Iragi people will love us, and their oil will more than pay for the war?

This was the dumbest military move since Custer decided to pimp with a few Indians. I don’t know how any of those people can look in a mirror.


47 posted on 11/16/2012 9:16:28 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: SargeK

How much freign aid is Obama sending them?


48 posted on 11/16/2012 9:24:56 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SargeK

Ok, anyone NOT see this coming? Falling right into line with Biblical prophesy.


49 posted on 11/16/2012 9:24:56 PM PST by ducttape45
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To: SargeK
I am framing a picture of Curtis LeMay for the wall of my office.

Although I ended up voted for Nixon in 1968, I almost cast a ballot for George Wallace's American Independent Party solely because the great General Curtis LeMay was on the ticket. Had circumstances been such that LeMay had power in that adminstration, our victory in Vietnam would be assured and Red China would have been eliminated as a threat. Regardless of his other shortcomings, Wallace showed sound judgment in his choice of LeMay.

50 posted on 11/16/2012 9:29:55 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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Michael Weaver posted this on Facebook:

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51 posted on 11/16/2012 9:35:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

SWAMPSNIPER, Over the years I’ve read and agree with most of your comments, however... “Iraq was a total waste of American blood.” is definitely not one of them!


52 posted on 11/16/2012 9:48:46 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: loboinok
What have we accomplished after we took out Saddam?

We have not made a lasting reliable ally in the region. We haven't helped build a lasting democracy.

Iraq is just waiting for the next tyrant to take control, religious or secular, it makes no difference.

53 posted on 11/16/2012 9:57:42 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Absolutely pissed at them. Wolfowitz, Perle, Kristol, Bennett, all pushed for ground troop intervention in Iraq. Even while Clinton was in office. Look up the letter they signed citing weapons of mass destruction. NEOCON job. Now they play stupid and sheepish after we spent Billions and more importantly sacrifice our men and women. For what ? To be slapped in the face by the newly “democratic” freely elected American hating Iraquis. God Bless our soldiers.


54 posted on 11/16/2012 10:00:32 PM PST by tartar1000
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To: SargeK

That arrogant jackass was (and is) more than happy to let Iraq implode.


55 posted on 11/16/2012 10:12:36 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: b4its2late
What liberation? We took out an evil, blood-thirsty secular dictator and this was replaced with jihadi, Saudi sponsored AlQaeda and IRan sponsored Shia groups killing each other regularly.

Gulf War I and II were a mistake.

56 posted on 11/16/2012 10:17:59 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: SargeK; Eleutheria5; kearnyirish2; Pearls Before Swine; cripplecreek
To be fair, this is the elder Bush's fault. When Saddam, a secular dictator grabbed the theocratic sheikhdom of Kuwait and threatened the Saudis (who sponsor and created the Wahabbi, Sunni-fanatical movements around the world like the Taliban and alQaeda) and who could have got more money to continue his fight against the Ayatollahs in Iran

When Saddam did this, Bush I went in to protect the Saudis. The presence of American troops on Saudi was the "provocation" or rather justification used by AlQaeda for 9.11

Then we took out a secular dictator, SAddam in 2003 and replaced him with THIS.

What a waste of lives and money.

57 posted on 11/16/2012 10:18:46 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: ScottinVA

True, but Kurdish independence pi*** off the Turks who occupy a large chunk of Kurdish lands


58 posted on 11/16/2012 10:19:18 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: tartar1000
NEOCON job.

Never attribute to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity. Religion is merely one of many systems of belief that relies purely on faith. Neo-conservatism is liberalism applied to foreign policy. It is hawkish, but in a kumbaya, we-are-all-the-same-under-the-skin kind of way.

59 posted on 11/16/2012 10:23:19 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: PGR88; cripplecreek
While we just don't know what the M.E. would look like with Saddam still there,

We can conjecture: in 1988 Saddam finished the 8 year war with Iran, having killed a large chunk of the fanatical Shias

In this he was sponsored by Saudia and the Gulf states (including Kuwait) who used him as a proxy against Shia Iran which they feared and fear (just as they use Egypt against Israel)

In 1990 he decided that they didn't give him enough money and that Kuwait was filching extra oil from the shared oil reserves (which, if I'm not mistaken, they WERE doing) and took over

We went in and the Saudi king was correct when he said "I just snap my hands and my blue-eyed slaves will come and fight and die for me" and my money

If we hadn't, then this is the scenario:

All in all, a much better world for America and Europe, about the same level of danger for Israel.

Note -- in some ways Dubya was just following a nearly inevitable path after Gulf War I...

60 posted on 11/16/2012 10:30:27 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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