[Cronos]

To be fair, this is the elder Bush's fault. When Saddam, a secular dictator grabbed the theocratic sheikhdom of Kuwait and threatened the Saudis (who sponsor and created the Wahabbi, Sunni-fanatical movements around the world like the Taliban and alQaeda) and who could have got more money to continue his fight against the Ayatollahs in Iran

When Saddam did this, Bush I went in to protect the Saudis. The presence of American troops on Saudi was the "provocation" or rather justification used by AlQaeda for 9.11

Then we took out a secular dictator, SAddam in 2003 and replaced him with THIS.

What a waste of lives and money.

[no-to-illegals]

True enough Cronos. Also there was a rumor, and may have been a fact. Didn't Bush I tell sadam, in a round about way, he didn't give a heck about Kuwait? Was this the beginning and looking back is 20 and 20. In the present it's not simply iraq, but all of nearly or more than half of the globe possibly saying America, America did it, and gathering their force while telling their generals prepare to attack. Stepping in it is definitely too late. Can't back up. Our options, few to none? Waiting and watching here, FRiend. Sometime if you and I are close to each other, we should sit down and talk, have a drink and try to relax. Invite odds, okay?