Posted on 11/10/2012 11:27:46 AM PST by RKBA Democrat
Full title of petition: "Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government." Posted on Drudge.
As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
"...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government..."
Which has what to do, exactly with the Madison's statements concerning the subject at hand?
Applying a like view of the subject to the case of the U. S. it results, that the compact being among individuals as imbodied into States, no State can at pleasure release itself therefrom, and set up for itself. The compact can only be dissolved by the consent of the other parties, or by usurpations or abuses of power justly having that effect.
James Madison to Nicholas P. Trist, 15 Feb. 1830
I want a divorce from the blue states, join with red states and have our own country. Reason: Irreconcilable Differences. The two sides are just polar opposites of each other in almost every issue.
Perhaps, but if the choice is between bucking the 'precednet' with logic and Law or being crushed under the continuation of the consolodation of government, what choice do we really have?
If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute.
Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
Yep, Lincoln settled that little states rights issue long ago.
Alligator chow.
Mama, I'll be honest with you. If I wanted to divorce myself from the United States, I would emigrate to another country. Mexico is a choice that offers a smaller, less paternalistic government with much smaller welfare benefits.
That’s what I keep saying. It’s time for a divorce. Our difference cannot be reconciled. It’s time to part ways amicably.
Petition started asking Obama to allow Texas to secede from the Union
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2957815/posts
yeah, thanks for the cold water splash there hotshot.
Have been painting the steel plates at the range U.N. Blue for awhile now.
Forget secession. That matter has been settled.
Who would do the fighting, the ghetto-rats and blue-county big-city RATs?
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Since you're asking that question, I'll just assume you don't understand the word, "compact" in the text you're repeatedly citing, or in the context of the Republic of West Florida.
Sorry. I'm a bit cynical these days.
Pffft Peanuts. If you wanna see the real money sink hole research MR. Go in NOLA. (AKA MRGO)
“Remember how this all started in the 18th century with petitions to King George III.”
Yes, I do. I wore a much younger man’s clothes then, as well as a powder wig and tricorn hat. The wig itched like a bitch.
“In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.”
A good idea on its surface, but my family was here while the colonies were forming and were in Texas to help make it a Republic, and I, for one will not be run off by a bunch of tin-plated dictators.
IMHO, the People would be better off educating themselves the informing the feral federal government that WE are NOT citizens of 'the United States', but citizens of these united States.
“It is quite clear, then, that there is a citizenship of the United States, and a citizenship of a state, which are distinct from each other and which depend upon different characteristics or circumstances in the individual”.
Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. (16 Wall.) 36; 21 L.Ed. 394 (1873)
“We have in our political system a government of the United States and a government of each of the several States. Each one of these governments is distinct from the others, and each has citizens of it’s own...” United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)
“The governments of the United States and of each state of the several states are distinct from one another. The rights of a citizen under one may be quite different from those which he has under the other”.
Colgate v. Harvey, 296 U.S. 404; 56 S.Ct. 252 (1935)
I ask a simple question and your reply is an ad hominem attack insinuating a lack of intellect on my part?
I really don't have time for such inane tactics, so have a nice day.
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