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Vanity: Romney: As predicted, He Proved to Be the Wrong Man
vanity | 7 Nov 12 | Xzins

Posted on 11/07/2012 3:23:45 AM PST by xzins

I knew last week that it was over, and I knew it because of Benghazi, the very issue that had me reluctantly put my check mark next to Romney's name, because I couldn't conceive that a Romney administration would have abandoned the lives of our heroes to the hatred of Al Qaeda.

Benghazi, Budget, BamaCare, Barrios....the 4 B's.

During the debates, conservative commentators liked to talk about Bayonets and Battleships, but four other B's explain Romney's loss and why he was the wrong man to carry the flag.

Benghazi was a window of opportunity presented to Romney that he was too timid to address. Some say that Romney decided after the first debate to just run out the clock. Well, events intervened and Hurricane Sandy made running out the clock impossible. (Give Governor Chris Christi an assist with mother nature's efforts.) In reality, though, discussion of Benghazi by Romney could have continued throughout Sandy, but Romney never again picked up the one issue that was moving the polls at that time. Once Candy Crowley slapped him in debate #2, he backed off. It was an absolute scandal, and no one ever asked Obama where he was at the time the live feed from Libya was playing. Romney lost for lack of sand.

Romney muzzled Ryan and the budget debate never was held. The very reason he was called courageous for his Ryan pick was the very thing they shut Ryan down on. Ryan was reduced to waving his arms at Romney gatherings. Platitudes of balancing budgets were common, but there was no stomach for discussing the real dangers affecting America is the budget was not controlled. Tepid describes the Romney approach to the budget.

As predicted, Romney never addressed the very issue that brought about the Tea Party. ObamaCare was simply not an issue for Romney. He was vulnerable due to his own support of RomneyCare, parent of ObamaCare, so he really couldn't attack the idea of big government health care. When it came to ObamaCare, Romney was simply the wrong guy to carry the message. Romney was AWOL -- as predicted during the primary season -- on ObamaCare.

The barrios of America rejected Romney by a huge margin. Forty-four percent of Hispanics supported George W. Bush. Romney garnered a meager 28%. Sadly, most Hispanic Americans have religious reasons to support a more conservative view of life and should naturally fall into the conservative camp. Anyone who has ever watched a migrant worker picking fruit in a field knows that a huge number of Hispanices do not shy from hard work. Sure there are those who would rather live on the dole, but isn't that the case with every demographic? Romney shot the one messenger who had a message that obviously appealed to Hispanic Americans, the governor of Texas. Like Perry or not, the same as George W. Bush, Perry had to get elected in a highly Hispanic state, Texas, so his sensibilities on the subject of the Hispanic vote should have been heeded.

Conservatives must find the inner resolve to admit that targeting Hispanic illegals makes Hispanic legals worry about their inalienable rights of privacy, search and seizure, and equal treatment. Another bitter pill for conservatives is that Hispanic legals are more compassionate toward Hispanic illegals than is the average conservative. With significant Hispanic populations in most of the swing states, conservatives should have noticed that Perry had found a balance that elevated him to the governor's seat in Texas AND permitted him to apply both economic and social conservatism throughout his state. The bottom line is that inalienable rights SHOULD BE a conservative issue. And while "compassionate conservatism" earned George Bush enmity with many conservatives, it also earned him the White House. Conservatives need to rethink the Hispanic vote and acknowledge that concerns about individual inalienable rights trump immigration purity in their minds.

It was too late for Romney, though. He had already taken a hard line stance to win the primary debate with Perry, attacking him mercilessly along with Michelle Bachman. He launched another barrage against Newt Gingrich on the same subject. Neither Romney nor Bachman was experienced in winning the Hispanic vote. Perry was inexperienced in winning primaries. In this instance, Romney lacked the determination of George W. Bush to push back against the poorly aimed concerns of base conservatives.

Romney's loss was predictable and was predicted. The reasons will open a huge debate. The four B's explain much: Benghazi, Budget, oBamaCare, and Barrios. In each instance, whether due to timidity or misguided policy, Romney proved to be the wrong candidate. Wrong place. Wrong time. Wrong message.


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To: xzins; All

better yet- the GOP the way its made up and run today- is the wrong party...do you realize George Bush received more votes in 2004 than obama did last night....


61 posted on 11/07/2012 4:10:33 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: BunnySlippers

Well take your “I KNEW” and shove it up your......
it’s your kind that cost us the election. PERIOD.


62 posted on 11/07/2012 4:10:47 AM PST by conservativesister
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To: Zhang Fei
One of the keys to the success of two-term Democrats like Clinton and Obama is that they've simply mastered the art of standing up there and telling people whatever they want to hear. These aren't principled politicians by a long stretch, despite what we like to think (and they like to think, too).

For example ... in this election campaign cycle we actually saw Barack Obama stand up and claim that a massive cut in corporate tax rates was one of the cornerstones of his economic plan. LOL.

The key to winning elections in the age of "American Idol" is to cobble together enough voters who are willing to believe what you're offering them, and then turn it into a simple, stupid campaign theme.

63 posted on 11/07/2012 4:11:05 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: central_va
Just go and join the democrats. I hate to tell you. If the R’s shift left anymore, its over.

The GOP has been shifting left for 150 years. It's still around. Unfortunately, we can't let our electorate outrun us, or we will lose on everything of importance to us instead of only some of them. Sodomy was once a felony, and during the colonial era, a capital offense. It is now not only legal, but fashionable, with all kinds of slang terms involving the practice once thought extremely coarse now used in day-to-day conversation. I'm as old-fashioned as they get, but we will never turn the clock back.

64 posted on 11/07/2012 4:11:29 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: ryan71

” If the last 4 years could not do it, then it won’t happen democratically or peacefully.”

I tend to agree. President Romney would have just gotten us there slower.

This election could be the best thing for America.

Sometimes painful surgery is needed to save a life from spreading cancer, and the patient’s chances of survival go up the sooner the cancer is caught and cut out.


65 posted on 11/07/2012 4:11:29 AM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: xzins

You’ve been against Romney for quite some time now.

Allen West lost. Mia Love lost. Two conservatives.

I worry that the country is lost, you have people voting yes to legalizing dope. More of the country is now on some kind of assistance, food stamps, welfare, the older people are receiving social security, they fear it will be reduced. Fear works. The media played it well, and with the help of some like you, we have four more years of Obama with his executive orders.

The ultimate plan of the democratic party was to get most of the country on the government dole and then be able to control them for their entire life.

Seems to me, mission accomplished.


66 posted on 11/07/2012 4:12:23 AM PST by swpa_mom
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To: Viennacon

Wrong. It was the changing demographics of the United States.

Dick Morris just said that he predicted a Romney landslide because he thought the electorate would return to 2004 levels. So did I. It didn’t. This electorate is here to stay, and (for once), Morris is right. Republicans will NEVER win with the electorate as it is. It’s not possible.

“Young voters, Hispanic voters, black voters, and single women voters are larger segments of the electorate now, and they all vote against us.

I REFUSE to compromise the basic principles of the party by the amount we would have to so that we can “snare” these voters. We might as well just have the Democrap party, rather than two Democrap parties.

I’ve said already. We are the Copts. A minority living under the tyranny of the majority.”

I agree 100%.

We must reject all MAINSTREAM media. “Cut the Cord” to cable TV. Starve the Beast MSMBC, CNN etc. Internet TV. Blaze TV. Starve the beast. Do not buy print media. Newsweek has died. Time magazine will also die. NYT is bleeding. Get back to church. Pray and live like the FOUNDERS. Drudge is correct, we are a DIVIDED COUNTRY.

Margaret Thatcher is correct: “The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people’s money.”

Long term move to TEXAS. SUCCESSION.


67 posted on 11/07/2012 4:14:01 AM PST by oiler (Reagan Republicans unite. Hobbits in 2012. FlatTax is a fair tax.)
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To: Viennacon; All

changing demographics??? do you realize George Bush received more votes in 2004 than obama did last night??? the GOP did not get out and vote- if they had Romney would be president today...obama’s vote count is down more than 10% from 2008- doesn’t seem like changing demographics to me....seems the problem is the way the GOP fights like little girls the past 8 years...


68 posted on 11/07/2012 4:14:13 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: inpajamas
The problem is so much deeper now because fools have become the majority.

And they think they've elected themselves more free stuff via socialism, but what they've put into place is in fact a fascist tool of Soros and his globalist ilk.

There's no place left on Earth for Liberty and Freedom.

69 posted on 11/07/2012 4:15:23 AM PST by Sirius Lee (A man isn't really a man until he becomes himself.)
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To: xzins

I’ve posted this before...but I intend to keep repeating it:

We can blame it on the Establishment, on the nominee, on several things...but the MAIN reason we are in this mess is because of all of our choices.

“Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.” ... Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Until we come to the place of GREAT repentance on the part of the majority of this nation, we will see an increasingly worse scenario. The CHANGE that is really needed is spiritual. History teaches this. The Sacred Scriptures teach this. Why don’t we want to learn?


70 posted on 11/07/2012 4:15:43 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Viennacon

If it is all the demographics, how did we win in 2010 and win the House, this year, with a losing candidate at the top of the ticket?

Romney has to take some of the blame. He never made a strong case to convince the public of his positions. He also may have been mistaken in being so passive in the last two debates. We thought that voter participation would be higher this year than last, but it appears that it was not. He was not really exciting people as we thought he was.


71 posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:11 AM PST by djpg
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To: xzins

My preference would have been Gingrich, but his woman issues would likely have sunk him too. The current R problem is that we will not settle for less than a perfect person, and Jesus did not run in the 2012 Republican primary, and I don’t expect Him to be running in 2016 either.


72 posted on 11/07/2012 4:19:22 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: SumProVita

As I just posted in another thread, last time told me exactly where we are on the Bible’s prophetic time clock.

I don’t think this was Romney’s fault even though he wasn’t my first choice. I put a lot of the blame on the media who refused to tell the truth about the issues and our current President.

When people are being fed untruths that is what they will believe. The media needs to be taken over by either conservatives are at least honest journalists to make a difference in this country...sigh


73 posted on 11/07/2012 4:20:41 AM PST by BamaBelle
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To: conservativesister

YOU are the one who dragged your feet. YOU didn’t get EXACTLY who you wanted. And we are paying.


74 posted on 11/07/2012 4:20:58 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: tsowellfan

Allen West lost.... to a freakin’ drunk! And he was an excellent messenger of conservative principles.

What I’m saying is that the voters made themselves clear. Hispanics care about open-border immigration above all else. Blacks care about voting Democrat above all else. There are great exceptions, but that’s the majority. They’re called “idiots”.


75 posted on 11/07/2012 4:22:50 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: MikeSteelBe
I tend to agree. President Romney would have just gotten us there slower. This election could be the best thing for America. Sometimes painful surgery is needed to save a life from spreading cancer, and the patient’s chances of survival go up the sooner the cancer is caught and cut out.

Death comes sooner or later. Most people prefer to get there later. I understand the feeling that things may have to get worse before they get better. But sometimes people end up with the French or Bolshevik Revolutions, and the deaths of major chunks of their populations. The whole point of the American experiment has been to avoid those types of convulsive blood-lettings.

76 posted on 11/07/2012 4:22:50 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: TomGuy
"What went wrong?"

It is this simple. We now have over 50% on the dole. They vote LIB and always will. . . .

77 posted on 11/07/2012 4:23:33 AM PST by DeaconRed (Kenyan village will not get their idiot back. . . . For at least 4 years. . . . .)
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To: xzins

Yes. Romney listened to his GOP handlers and continued with the wimpy responses to the Obama campaign attacks.

Boehner said this morning that the House will need to reach across the isle now.


78 posted on 11/07/2012 4:24:51 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: BamaBelle

Oops...”last time” should be “last night”...

...and yes, I just picked up my cup of coffee after a very late night...lol


79 posted on 11/07/2012 4:25:14 AM PST by BamaBelle
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To: BamaBelle
I put a lot of the blame on the media who refused to tell the truth about the issues

That has always been a Republican problem. The media is NEVER going to be on their side. The Republicans need to figure out a way to counter the media, but they never seem to be able to. Look at the presidential debate formats/hosts. They are stacked against the GOP nominee every 4 years.


80 posted on 11/07/2012 4:25:57 AM PST by TomGuy
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