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changing demographics??? do you realize George Bush received more votes in 2004 than obama did last night??? the GOP did not get out and vote- if they had Romney would be president today...obama’s vote count is down more than 10% from 2008- doesn’t seem like changing demographics to me....seems the problem is the way the GOP fights like little girls the past 8 years...


68 posted on 11/07/2012 4:14:13 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: God luvs America
changing demographics??? do you realize George Bush received more votes in 2004 than obama did last night??? the GOP did not get out and vote- if they had Romney would be president today...obama’s vote count is down more than 10% from 2008- doesn’t seem like changing demographics to me....seems the problem is the way the GOP fights like little girls the past 8 years...

Actually, Romney had no ground game. He should have hired Rove, the GOTV expert, as a consultant. I guess he's used to knowing everything. Sometimes being too smart is a handicap. Romney not only wanted to win, he wanted to win his way - via ad blitzes. If he had done it Rove's way, he would have won. One thing GWB had going for him was humility - not the kind where you say you are humble, but actually defer to the experts. (Of course, given GWB's sparse resume - while far superior to Gore's, Kerry's or Obama's - he had much to be humble about, relative to GHWB).

83 posted on 11/07/2012 4:29:22 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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changing demographics??? do you realize George Bush received more votes in 2004 than obama did last night??? the GOP did not get out and vote- if they had Romney would be president today...obama’s vote count is down more than 10% from 2008- doesn’t seem like changing demographics to me....seems the problem is the way the GOP fights like little girls the past 8 years...

Your explanation for Romney's loss is spot on: Those of us who blame voter fraud, the MSM, George Soros, or changing demographics are in denial. The reason we lost is because we allowed the GOP elite to shove an unpopular, moderate-liberal candidate down our throats. Obama received about the same number of votes as Kerry did in 2004 -- that's about 10,000,000 fewer votes than Obama received in 2008. The problem is that Romney received about three million fewer votes than McCain in 2008 and about 4,000,000 fewer votes than Bush in 2004.

This is not a case of shifting demographics from right to left, because the votes that Romney lost from 2008 and 2004 did not end up in Obama's pocket; rather, beginning on November 3, 2008, the GOP elites threw their support to the candidate who lost to the candidate who lost to Obama and then viciously attacked the Tea Party and anyone else who suggested that Romney was too liberal to galvanize the base. And that's exactly what happened: The base stayed home because they decided not to compromise their values and vote for a liberal Republican over a liberal Democrat. It's that simple and don't let the Rove's, Will's, and Coulter's convince us differently or we will end up with Jeb Bush or Chris Christie losing to Hillary Clinton in 2016.

134 posted on 11/07/2012 5:24:01 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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