Posted on 11/04/2012 5:03:56 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
November 4th, 2012
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Rich Beeson, political director for Romney's campaign; David Axelrod, adviser to Obama's re-election campaign.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): David Plouffe, adviser to President Barack Obama; Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Political analysts.
Schieffer posted this on his blog Saturday: We're not talking to either side this Sunday. Instead, I'm going to go to some very smart people on two different panels. I want to see what they think, see if together we can find any trends. My guess is they probably don't have any more answers than I do, but we'll find out for sure on Sunday. Harvard's David Gergen, National Review's Rich Lowry, Vanity Fair's Dee Dee Myers, The Wall Street Journal's Peggy Noonan and our own John Dickerson will start us off. Then, we'll breakdown the numbers behind a 2012 victory with Democratic pollster Anna Greenberg, Republican strategist Leslie Sanchez, Rothenberg Political Report's Stu Rothenberg, University of Virginia's Larry Sabato and CBS News Elections Director Anthony Salvanto.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Plouffe; Ed Gillespie, adviser to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign.
STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel; Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio.
Thanks for thread A.B. Your Tide finally rolled over the Cats.
That was the best game, college or pro, this year. Fantastic. What real football looks like.
I would add that I kinda saw it as the belated national championship game for last year’s season—when the two teams split it up 1-1 and hadn’t yet played it off.
Bring out all the lawyers you want. When the voters fire you,you stayed fired.
Picking apart the minds of guys like Axelrod is a lot of fun. Each lie they tell about how they are ahead is like a little game show you can play with yourself about what externally verifiable factoid they’ve left out in the lie, which, had they included it, would turn their argument against themselves.
A famous Axelrod one this season is “Don’t look at the polls! Look at the early voting!”
Last time I heard this one, he didn’t even say ‘we’re WAY ahead’ ... he said something like ‘we’re holding our own and have the edge’
This is, of course, a total disaster for them - and turns him into a Republican cheerleader.
There are about 5 of these ‘we’re killing them!’ talking points which would depress you if you didn’t have the missing fact.
So you don’t win money for your knowledge on these morning game shows.
If you don’t know the answer to ‘what’s the missing fact!’, your punishment is depression. But if you do answer every challenge, you get to enjoy each democrat appearing on the talk shows as actually a Republican operative, secretly passing you data.
It is fun.
Morning AB, All
As always AB, thank you for doing this thread, even in the aftermath of mighty storms.
;)
We survived Sandy here in the swamps and we survived her handily. In fact, Cape May, where Sandy came ashore, is only about 15 miles from my house. That’s New Jersey btw.
Right now I don’t have Internet access. Well I do but I am tethered to the modem in my bedroom, able to access Internet only by wire.
The router is gone is what I’m saying here. Bout a year ago Comcast came in, took out the modem we had and put in another modem (that we rent from them) AND a separate router. “We’re switching over to separate routers because we have all sorts of problems with the modems and routers combined,” the Comcast guy told me.
Well I didn’t care so long as it worked but there’s the rub.
That router hasn’t worked right since we had it. The first time it went up they told me to call Netgear. I told them that it was COMCAST’S decision to put that thing in, yada yada. “Well you’re going to have to sign up for our maintenance plan if you want us to help you fix it over the phone,” the smarmy Comcast guy told me.
So I was forced to sign up for their maintenance plan to fix that stupid router that COMCAST decided to put in, NOT ME.
I did subsequently call up Comcast, working my way up the ladder. They wrote off the remainder of my “maintenance plan” but it still cost me $26 to get that router to work, which required only sticking a paperclip in some kind of pinhole at the bottom of the thing to reset the password.
Eleven house I worked with Comcast over that stupid thing, my hatred for Comcast knows no bounds.
Bear in mind I’ve been their customer for now ten years here in the swamps and five years before in Merryland. A customer who buys internet, DVR and TV service AND telephone crap as part of a package, a telephone I don’t ever use. If that thing ever rang I’d now know where the hell to dint it.
This to the tune of $225 a month so what? They couldn’t direct me to that little pinhole that did make the thing work after almost a day dickering with those mean awful people.
That very same router went down this weekend and THIS time I called Comcast and refused to hang up until they assigned to come and fix the thing that THEY rent TO me.
“And I ain’t paying one single dime to you criminals,” I told them.
I got my way but I’m thinking maybe my snarky letter to the president of Comcast was recorded somewhere cause Comcast didn’t give me any grief save I won’t get a new router till Monday.
I can use the Internet, like I said, when tethered to the modem and NOT the router.
I’ve also learned how to download web sites and “work offline” so for the weekend it’ll do. I just tether my laptop to the wire, download all my fave web sites, then I read them.
So this is what I do now, be patient with me.
After reading the thread I will have to go back into the bedroom, leash myself to the modem, and answer any comments online. BUT I can write my comment and through the miracle of cut and paste I can hook up and send it in.
Am singing at 10 am mass today so won’t be back till almost noon. Have taped Fox News Sunday and Meet the Depressed.
Save me a spot everyone!
Just for fun what are Sunday threads readers prediction for this Elections “unexpected” result?
My prediction, Obama wins Ohio causing the Media to call the election early but Obama loses Wis and Colorado late in the night to lose the election.
Other surprise Akin wins the US Senate seat in MO and is the 51st GOP Senator.
Doesn’t matter what the split is as long as Obama is stuck at 47%. His high water mark since most, if not all, undecideds go to the challenger. They are undecided for Obama because they are looking for some reason to vote for him and not the other way around for Romney.
The Benghazi story has evolved so much its hard to keep up with.
A few weeks ago I thought that Stevens was to be kidnapped and than traded for the blind sheik --Omar Abdul Rahman. But when you see what happened that really doesn't make much sense.
All terror types respect and love the blind shiek,Rahman. Why would they kill Stevens if that was the reason? Recently, I have ran across more links that suggest that both Hillary and Obama have been playing their favorite terrorists to whatever political gain they can achieve. Hillary of course is in love with the MB courtesy of her gay lover Houma Abeden.
Zero supposedly made a deal with his favorite terrorist to give them money, arms,(all done through Chris Stevens of course--who was reportedly a practicing muslim and spoke fluent Arabic) and allow them to smuggle drugs in exchange for not committing terrorists acts here at home,here in the U.S. that would negatively effect his numbers. With the regime its always about politics and getting reelected. Nothing else matters. Notice there have been few terrorists hits here in the US--is that coincidence,who knows?
Zero armed terrorists in Libya and then again in Syria(using Stevens again) not really caring which ones got the weapons as long as they took out Gadaffi.
Seems the ones who got the weapons did the damage in Benghazi.
From what I have put together from various links on the internet Benghazi was supposed to go like this: They(the regime) would bribe a couple of dozen youth to protest the video(I found two links that confirmed this) then real terrorists "supposedly" under the control of the Obama regime would kidnap Stevens. Obama would rescue him and he would have something to talk about at the debates.Once again politics trumps all.
As we see the terror types got tired of being the fall guys. Instead we know what they did to Stevens and the other CIA guys. This is also the reason why no help was called in, and those who tried to help,the admiral and the general in N.Africa were told not to. When they persisted they were fired or severely reprimanded. Zero thought the terrorists were "his" terrorists so why call in for help?
Only after it was too late did they figure out they had been double crossed.
Hillary had her escape. She had forwarded all Stevens requests for additional security up the chain of command.Doing that she knew she was safe saying "the buck stopped with her." Petraeus at CIA who was undoubtedly in on it as well. He stated that "no CIA requests for help had been denied" covering his scrawny ass as well.
It's convoluted as hell but this is basically what I have figured out that happened.
Romney wins Oregon. We have been chasing ballots from Repubs and are shocked with how many are sending them in. We have been voting for 3 weeks and there is something going on with the energy from our side.
Romney in a landslide.
Pray for America
That’s good analysis and I hope you are correct.
In the end, I personally think Romney will win in a shockingly decisive fashion—possibly as high as 335 Electoral College votes at minimum.
Why? I cite the following reasons:
1) Americans—especially in suburban and rural areas—are rapidly tiring of Obama’s domestic and foreign policies. The huge loss of jobs, the persistently high U-6 unemployment/underemployment rate and high energy prices have effectively stunted what should have been a robust recovery from the 2008 stock market crash.
2) Obama pushed through Obamacare, which will result in higher medical insurance premiums, smaller selection of health care providers, and more taxes to pay for it.
3) Obama has effectively stopped the expansion of exploitation of American energy resources, especially our huge reserves of coal and newly-discovered huge reserves of oil and natural gas found by new production methods.
4) Enthusiasm for Romney is huge, as noted by the gigantic turnout at every political rally Romney has attended (so much so that there are huge numbers of people having to be turned away!). Meanwhile, the 2012 rallies for Obama has been reduced to very small fraction of the size of the 2008 rallies for Obama.
5) Voters in suburban and rural areas are overwhelmingly in support of Romney. This will effectively erase the advantage of support of Obama in urban areas in almost every “battleground state.”
6) The GOP voter base is hugely energized this time around to vote out Obama, since the GOP get out the vote effort is much more effective in 2012 than in 2008.
That’s real good analysis and I hope and pray you are correct.
But the Friday downturn in the Rasmussen national poll is scary—and I think directly linked to Chris Christie’s remarkable Quisling act.
The fact is, that last 10 percent of the electorate are the ones who whine about politicians in Washington “getting along” and all that naive jazz.
And even Romney’s finishing stump speech this week consumes about half of the effort on the “reaching across the aisle” shuck and jive—because he understands these people are ALWAYS “up for grabs” in their muddled thinking.
I’m hoping the ground game obviates this nitwit demographic in any case, but the nitwits are many and Christie (who certainly wants to run in 2016 and could care less about anything else) played them like a fiddle last week.
I mean, he proved himself to be a real cunning piece of sleaze.
Great stuff, hard to forget Benghazi!
Just happened to be looking at some Patrick Henry quotes yesterday (he's one of my favorite 'sons of Virginia') .... these two aply:
“The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.”
“It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts... For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.”
bump
From your keyboard to God's ears...
Oops AB, meant to post to Bray - thanks for posting Bray’s ‘editorials’ every week!
Bray, ping to comment #32
From what I have put together from various links on the internet Benghazi was supposed to go like this: They(the regime) would bribe a couple of dozen youth to protest the video(I found two links that confirmed this) then real terrorists “supposedly” under the control of the Obama regime would kidnap Stevens. Obama would rescue him and he would have something to talk about at the debates.Once again politics trumps all.
As we see the terror types got tired of being the fall guys. Instead we know what they did to Stevens and the other CIA guys. This is also the reason why no help was called in, and those who tried to help,the admiral and the general in N.Africa were told not to. When they persisted they were fired or severely reprimanded. Zero thought the terrorists were “his” terrorists so why call in for help?
Only after it was too late did they figure out they had been double crossed.
I’m not sure there was a double-cross in any case.
Rumors were when the terrorists found out how badly they had been beaten they were furious!Note to terror types'
DONT MESS WITH SEALS!!
Preparing to watch Hitler’s lips move.
Here’s the theory of how the hostage got killed. They thought they could get there unopposed with the stand down order but Woods disobeyed the order and killed 30-40 terrorists before getting killed so they killed Stevens. This would explain Biden’s balls like bowling balls line.
The other way may have been they couldn’t get to him so they started the fire and he died of smoke inhalation and now they had a dead hostage. Best guess would be the revenge factor.
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