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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 4 November 2012
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 4 November 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 11/04/2012 5:03:56 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



November 4th, 2012

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Rich Beeson, political director for Romney's campaign; David Axelrod, adviser to Obama's re-election campaign.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): David Plouffe, adviser to President Barack Obama; Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Political analysts.

Schieffer posted this on his blog Saturday: We're not talking to either side this Sunday. Instead, I'm going to go to some very smart people on two different panels. I want to see what they think, see if together we can find any trends. My guess is they probably don't have any more answers than I do, but we'll find out for sure on Sunday. Harvard's David Gergen, National Review's Rich Lowry, Vanity Fair's Dee Dee Myers, The Wall Street Journal's Peggy Noonan and our own John Dickerson will start us off. Then, we'll breakdown the numbers behind a 2012 victory with Democratic pollster Anna Greenberg, Republican strategist Leslie Sanchez, Rothenberg Political Report's Stu Rothenberg, University of Virginia's Larry Sabato and CBS News Elections Director Anthony Salvanto.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Plouffe; Ed Gillespie, adviser to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel; Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio.


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As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions.
1 posted on 11/04/2012 5:04:10 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: acapesket; A.Hun; Aleya2Fairlie; aligncare; altura; Bender2; Bernard; bray; cajungirl; Carley; ...
This is the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread Ping List! If you want to be on it, reply to this post or FReepmail me (in case I miss it). If you want to be taken off, simply send me a FReepmail.

Did you all enjoy the extra hour of sleep or are you wondering where the hell the thread is?

2 posted on 11/04/2012 5:05:27 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All
C-SPAN Radio, available on the net also, click here, broadcasts all five Sunday talk shows starting at 12:00 noon Eastern, as follows:

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"

3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "Late Edition"

4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"

Listen at the link above WHILE you FReep!

3 posted on 11/04/2012 5:06:45 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All
Here are the email addresses or web pages for commenting to the weekend talk shows:

Meet the Press Meet the Press mailbox (web page for comments)

Face the Nation ftn@cbsnews.com

Fox News Sunday FNS@foxnews.com

ABC This Week thisweek@abc.com

CNN State of the Union CNN State of the Union (web page for comments)

4 posted on 11/04/2012 5:07:06 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All; bray

“The Sunday Morning Bray”, by Bray!

But I see another law at Work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at Work within my members. Romans 7:23

We now have credible sources saying PravdABDNC is hiding two emails showing the current President ordered the military to Stand Down on rescuing Ambassador Stevens and the Seals. These e-mails are being withheld from the American public for fear they would destroy the President’s dwindling chances of re-election. This is simply another example of the complete lack of credibility from our Establishmedia which has become nothing more than a wing of the corrupt DNC, excuse the redundancy. After we sweep this coward out of office perhaps we can find a way to fire Pravda too.

How can America tolerate a group of reporters who refuse to report a story simply because they are Marxist ideologues? We have to get to the bottom of how and why an Ambassador was assassinated and what happened. Was it a simple terrorist attack or was something else going on which was even more sinister to explain the stand down order? We need answers to these questions or is the District of Corruption going to whitewash this like they have every other scandal that has been an arm’s length from Obama.

There is a rumor floating around which says there was a kidnap and exchange being carried out between Stevens and the Blind Sheik Omar who plotted and executed the first Twin Towers attack. If this was true then it would explain why they did not want any interference from the rescue squad and would also explain why they had the lame excuse in their pocket in case anything went bad. If this was the case then they believed their kidnap was going fine until the Ambassador ended up at the Hospital dead. This would explain all of the stopping the rescue missions to let the terrorists capture the compound and then negotiate the release with the Blind Sheik. The first rule in negotiation, know who your opponents are and make sure you can trust them, a step horribly missed by the regime.

The other theory is Stevens and the Seals were meeting with some Libyan groups who they had given weapons to overthrow Ghadafi and were getting our weapons back. We apparently sent a ship of weapons including Surface to Air missiles which are now in the hands of Al Queda and he was attempting to buy them back for millions of dollars to these terrorists. This one is the more frightening to imagine our government would be willing to give those types of weapons to terrorists with a chance they could be used against us. This again would explain not sending in aircraft knowing they could be shot down by our own missiles causing a scandal he would have a hard time explaining to every American who does not work for the media.

If either of these theories are true he needs to come clean to the American people and let the cards fall where they may. They are both equally damaging from trying to affect an election by placing an Ambassador’s life at risk to giving weapons away to affect another leader in the Middle East so he could avoid going to war with that country. Which is worse, arming a militia to overthrow a dictator who was no longer a threat America or threatening to go to war with a dictator who was a threat to America and his neighbors and actually going to war? You would have to say Bush was more honest than Obama.

Can anybody imagine the media being in anyway complicit to a Romney administration with a dead Ambassador story? The duplicity of the Stone Age Press has passed being a joke to becoming a threat to our country. This president if he cared in the slightest about the truth would go before the American people and explain what happened and why. He would have to explain what the Ambassador was doing there and why he was not given the proper protection at the Benghazi compound. If he cared an ounce about transparency he would have to explain if the rumors are true and why he would allow such things to happen. Finally he would have to explain his Stand Down order and why he would abandon our fellow Americans to die horrible deaths.

America will not survive if we cannot trust our leaders. Democracy only survives when the truth is sanctified rather than something to be hidden. Transparency is required from every level of our gummit and what is severely lacking in this one. The answers to these questions are difficult answers and ones that will likely destroy his campaign even though it is already over. His problem is the truth no longer can be hidden and he is too much a coward to admit it so he is trying to be the Dutch boy stopping the leaks in the dike, there are just are too many of them to stop.

In the end we have the internet and it will become even more powerful as the Marxist Mathews Media continues to abuse their power. They have become an afterthought as they become more and more obvious while the alternative media becomes the source of the truth from Rush to Drudge exposing the corruption unfiltered. Without these sources we would still be persecuting some poor schlep in jail who made a video who was the regime’s designated fall guy if this plan failed.

In a couple days we will have a new President and the media will be one step closer to actual bankruptcy not just morally. The new media which will take its place has to be one that provides for its own financing and is not subsidized by other parts of a corporation so that the news will have to have value. It will need to reflect the value of its one commodity which is reporting the information and letting that information rise or fall of its own volition. This is why the public values so many of the internet sources while discounting PravdABDNC to nearly worthless. As a news source the internet is diamonds while MSDNC is coal as is being proven by Benghazigate. When your news organization has sold itself out to one side completely there is no value to their information.

We have a President who is costing Americans their lives needlessly and then lying to us and a media which is covering up his scandal to promote his Marxism. In a truly transparent world he would have reporters hounding him everywhere he went and demanding answers to very serious questions. There is no free press outside the internet so those who are in speaking distance of the President are happy to be the filters to maintain his façade. Perhaps after Tuesday one of the mediots will find the courage to break from the pack and decide the deaths of Americans is a story and begin to find the answers to it. Meanwhile, we will surf the net to find the truth as it leaks from the massive dike as it collapses from the weight of its own corruption. What replaces it will be a phoenix that resembles Lady Liberty with her Torch of Truth held high.

Pray for America

Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Bray’s. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.


5 posted on 11/04/2012 5:07:39 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Extra hour? No. We are back on Choctaw time!

Oldplayer


6 posted on 11/04/2012 5:08:24 AM PST by oldplayer
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To: Alas Babylon!

The 2016 election speculation cycle begins Wednesday morning.


7 posted on 11/04/2012 5:09:14 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Alas Babylon!

Good Morning All from beautiful sunny and chilly Wisconsin. A state with cold beer, brats and cheese. Let us hope this is the weekend before our deliverance from a four year nightmare and assault on the greatest country in history. An exceptional country. Thanks AB for the thread.


8 posted on 11/04/2012 5:14:06 AM PST by animal172 (Go Paul Ryan. Chew 'em up and spit 'em out.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Did you all enjoy the extra hour of sleep or are you wondering where the hell the thread is?

1) Nah, I just lurked around a bit to make sure you/yours didn't get involved in Sandy....

2) I'm usually up and running by Oh-Dark-Thirty anyway. (It's been 40 years, but Flight Ops always started then and the Crash Crew right next to my barracks fired up everything in the barn if we had any flights scheduled or not. Sailors and their firetrucks.....sheesh.)

3) Even if I'm not having those flashbacks, every animal in the place figures that as time I fed 'em, anyway.

(BTW, my compliments on your page.)

9 posted on 11/04/2012 5:19:42 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: Alas Babylon!

So, once again we are treated to David Axelrod on Fox News.

The fact that the President of the United States has refused for four years to appear on the number one news channel is telling. What does this say about Barack Obama?

Axelrod’s willingness to appear seems to say that it is not the fear of espousing the liberal viewpoint on a conservative-leaning station that bothers them, but that Axelrod believes that Obama is not up to the task.

Fox is number one by far in attracting viewers. Fox has more viewers than the rest combined. It would stand to reason then, that if you want to get your message out more efficiently, then maybe you’d accept, at some point, the four-year long standing invitation that Fox News has extended to our president.

But they won’t.

They know he’d blow it. They know Obama cannot talk to regular Americans, private sector Americans, in a manner that in the end won’t become a problem for them.

This is so instructive, so revealing of the weakness of this president, and puts the lie to his promise to “bring Americans together”, or that his style is one of “reaching across the aisle”.


10 posted on 11/04/2012 5:25:12 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Alas Babylon!


11 posted on 11/04/2012 5:29:08 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Alas Babylon!; All

Morning Folks!

Thanks for the thread and ping AB.


12 posted on 11/04/2012 5:30:44 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Alas Babylon!; bray
Good analysis as usual, bray.

The scuzzballs in DC and Chicago and their media sycophants have succeeded and mostly managed to keep the lid on this Benghazi outrage until after the election. After Tuesday, they won't care. One can only hope enough has been dribbling out to sway some crucial voters.

Another detail which has been lost in the reporting is although four men were lost because of this Administration, it could easily have been over thirty, including many other crucial CIA people. By the grace of God (with a little help from a hastily thrown together rescue from Tripoli) they managed to barely escape with their lives. The ultimate loss could have been much, much worse.

It is no wonder our exposed military and civilians all over the world are sitting up and nervously taking notice of their feckless and dangerous masters who are managing their lives back in DC.

As was noted by a high State Department official in the lone Benghazi Congressional hearing, "The Taliban is in the building..."!

13 posted on 11/04/2012 5:32:47 AM PST by Gritty (Back in Benghazi, the cool President in a bomber jacket is all jacket and no bombers-Mark Steyn)
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To: Alas Babylon!
In the end, I personally think Romney will win in a shockingly decisive fashion--possibly as high as 335 Electoral College votes at minimum.

Why? I cite the following reasons:

1) Americans--especially in suburban and rural areas--are rapidly tiring of Obama's domestic and foreign policies. The huge loss of jobs, the persistently high U-6 unemployment/underemployment rate and high energy prices have effectively stunted what should have been a robust recovery from the 2008 stock market crash.

2) Obama pushed through Obamacare, which will result in higher medical insurance premiums, smaller selection of health care providers, and more taxes to pay for it.

3) Obama has effectively stopped the expansion of exploitation of American energy resources, especially our huge reserves of coal and newly-discovered huge reserves of oil and natural gas found by new production methods.

4) Enthusiasm for Romney is huge, as noted by the gigantic turnout at every political rally Romney has attended (so much so that there are huge numbers of people having to be turned away!). Meanwhile, the 2012 rallies for Obama has been reduced to very small fraction of the size of the 2008 rallies for Obama.

5) Voters in suburban and rural areas are overwhelmingly in support of Romney. This will effectively erase the advantage of support of Obama in urban areas in almost every "battleground state."

6) The GOP voter base is hugely energized this time around to vote out Obama, since the GOP get out the vote effort is much more effective in 2012 than in 2008.

14 posted on 11/04/2012 5:32:50 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The other theory is Stevens and the Seals were meeting with some Libyan groups who they had given weapons to overthrow Ghadafi and were getting our weapons back. We apparently sent a ship of weapons including Surface to Air missiles which are now in the hands of Al Queda and he was attempting to buy them back for millions of dollars to these terrorists. This one is the more frightening to imagine our government would be willing to give those types of weapons to terrorists with a chance they could be used against us. This again would explain not sending in aircraft knowing they could be shot down by our own missiles causing a scandal he would have a hard time explaining to every American who does not work for the media.


I doubt that this theory of the coverup, once exposed, would shock anyone. And, it could be easily spun too — weapons once moved to the heroic freedom fighters in Libya now recovered and perhaps even shipped to more heroic freedom fighters in Syria— That’s too easy.

Plus, the tradition of the US arming jihadi freedom fighters dates back to the 1980s in Afghanistan, the 1990s in Kosovo, etc. No biggie.

And, also, consider that it was the ATTACK on the diplo mission that brought the weapons cache to everyone’s attention. If you wanted to cover up the weapons, and you were Obama, you would RUSH the CIA assets and others in there to put down the attack before the evidence was uncovered, not let it all happen.

I don’t think the weapons are relevant at all where the “stand down” and coverup are concerned. Makes no sense.

Not that much does these days, mind you.


15 posted on 11/04/2012 5:36:16 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: bray

Big whoops.


The other theory is Stevens and the Seals were meeting with some Libyan groups who they had given weapons to overthrow Ghadafi and were getting our weapons back. We apparently sent a ship of weapons including Surface to Air missiles which are now in the hands of Al Queda and he was attempting to buy them back for millions of dollars to these terrorists. This one is the more frightening to imagine our government would be willing to give those types of weapons to terrorists with a chance they could be used against us. This again would explain not sending in aircraft knowing they could be shot down by our own missiles causing a scandal he would have a hard time explaining to every American who does not work for the media.
I doubt that this theory of the coverup, once exposed, would shock anyone. And, it could be easily spun too — weapons once moved to the heroic freedom fighters in Libya now recovered and perhaps even shipped to more heroic freedom fighters in Syria— That’s too easy.

Plus, the tradition of the US arming jihadi freedom fighters dates back to the 1980s in Afghanistan, the 1990s in Kosovo, etc. No biggie.

And, also, consider that it was the ATTACK on the diplo mission that brought the weapons cache to everyone’s attention. If you wanted to cover up the weapons, and you were Obama, you would RUSH the CIA assets and others in there to put down the attack before the evidence was uncovered, not let it all happen.

I don’t think the weapons are relevant at all where the “stand down” and coverup are concerned. Makes no sense.

Not that much does these days, mind you.


16 posted on 11/04/2012 5:37:45 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for thread A.B. Your Tide finally rolled over the Cats.


17 posted on 11/04/2012 5:40:37 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: Alas Babylon!
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Political analysts.

Of course they will not talk to the smartest of the bunch Michael Barone since he is not saying what they want to hear.

18 posted on 11/04/2012 5:41:51 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Anyone have the break down of the new MI poll its tied at 47-47...whats the D/R/I split?


19 posted on 11/04/2012 5:43:11 AM PST by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: Alas Babylon!
I was watching NBC yesterday,The Today Show, and Chuck Todd said that ti wasn't going to be an interesting election day, but an interesting election "month".

This tells me that Obama is going to have his lawyers out, even if it's a blowout.

20 posted on 11/04/2012 5:46:21 AM PST by DallasBiff
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To: shalom aleichem; Alas Babylon!

Thanks for thread A.B. Your Tide finally rolled over the Cats.


That was the best game, college or pro, this year. Fantastic. What real football looks like.

I would add that I kinda saw it as the belated national championship game for last year’s season—when the two teams split it up 1-1 and hadn’t yet played it off.


21 posted on 11/04/2012 5:46:53 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Alas Babylon!
I expect Axelrod and Plouffe to have more spin than a tornado. I'll DVR so I can fast forward if it becomes unbearable.
22 posted on 11/04/2012 5:48:21 AM PST by JPG (Make it happen)
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To: DallasBiff

Bring out all the lawyers you want. When the voters fire you,you stayed fired.


23 posted on 11/04/2012 5:49:10 AM PST by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Picking apart the minds of guys like Axelrod is a lot of fun. Each lie they tell about how they are ahead is like a little game show you can play with yourself about what externally verifiable factoid they’ve left out in the lie, which, had they included it, would turn their argument against themselves.

A famous Axelrod one this season is “Don’t look at the polls! Look at the early voting!”

Last time I heard this one, he didn’t even say ‘we’re WAY ahead’ ... he said something like ‘we’re holding our own and have the edge’

This is, of course, a total disaster for them - and turns him into a Republican cheerleader.

There are about 5 of these ‘we’re killing them!’ talking points which would depress you if you didn’t have the missing fact.

So you don’t win money for your knowledge on these morning game shows.

If you don’t know the answer to ‘what’s the missing fact!’, your punishment is depression. But if you do answer every challenge, you get to enjoy each democrat appearing on the talk shows as actually a Republican operative, secretly passing you data.

It is fun.


24 posted on 11/04/2012 5:49:40 AM PST by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: Alas Babylon!

Morning AB, All

As always AB, thank you for doing this thread, even in the aftermath of mighty storms.

;)

We survived Sandy here in the swamps and we survived her handily. In fact, Cape May, where Sandy came ashore, is only about 15 miles from my house. That’s New Jersey btw.

Right now I don’t have Internet access. Well I do but I am tethered to the modem in my bedroom, able to access Internet only by wire.

The router is gone is what I’m saying here. Bout a year ago Comcast came in, took out the modem we had and put in another modem (that we rent from them) AND a separate router. “We’re switching over to separate routers because we have all sorts of problems with the modems and routers combined,” the Comcast guy told me.

Well I didn’t care so long as it worked but there’s the rub.

That router hasn’t worked right since we had it. The first time it went up they told me to call Netgear. I told them that it was COMCAST’S decision to put that thing in, yada yada. “Well you’re going to have to sign up for our maintenance plan if you want us to help you fix it over the phone,” the smarmy Comcast guy told me.

So I was forced to sign up for their maintenance plan to fix that stupid router that COMCAST decided to put in, NOT ME.

I did subsequently call up Comcast, working my way up the ladder. They wrote off the remainder of my “maintenance plan” but it still cost me $26 to get that router to work, which required only sticking a paperclip in some kind of pinhole at the bottom of the thing to reset the password.

Eleven house I worked with Comcast over that stupid thing, my hatred for Comcast knows no bounds.

Bear in mind I’ve been their customer for now ten years here in the swamps and five years before in Merryland. A customer who buys internet, DVR and TV service AND telephone crap as part of a package, a telephone I don’t ever use. If that thing ever rang I’d now know where the hell to dint it.

This to the tune of $225 a month so what? They couldn’t direct me to that little pinhole that did make the thing work after almost a day dickering with those mean awful people.

That very same router went down this weekend and THIS time I called Comcast and refused to hang up until they assigned to come and fix the thing that THEY rent TO me.

“And I ain’t paying one single dime to you criminals,” I told them.

I got my way but I’m thinking maybe my snarky letter to the president of Comcast was recorded somewhere cause Comcast didn’t give me any grief save I won’t get a new router till Monday.

I can use the Internet, like I said, when tethered to the modem and NOT the router.

I’ve also learned how to download web sites and “work offline” so for the weekend it’ll do. I just tether my laptop to the wire, download all my fave web sites, then I read them.

So this is what I do now, be patient with me.

After reading the thread I will have to go back into the bedroom, leash myself to the modem, and answer any comments online. BUT I can write my comment and through the miracle of cut and paste I can hook up and send it in.

Am singing at 10 am mass today so won’t be back till almost noon. Have taped Fox News Sunday and Meet the Depressed.

Save me a spot everyone!


25 posted on 11/04/2012 5:49:57 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Alas Babylon!; oldplayer; bray; rodguy911; Morgan in Denver; TomGuy; acapesket; A.Hun; ...
Every election we have some surprises. People win that should not or lose that should not.

Just for fun what are Sunday threads readers prediction for this Elections “unexpected” result?

My prediction, Obama wins Ohio causing the Media to call the election early but Obama loses Wis and Colorado late in the night to lose the election.

Other surprise Akin wins the US Senate seat in MO and is the 51st GOP Senator.

26 posted on 11/04/2012 5:50:27 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Dog

Doesn’t matter what the split is as long as Obama is stuck at 47%. His high water mark since most, if not all, undecideds go to the challenger. They are undecided for Obama because they are looking for some reason to vote for him and not the other way around for Romney.


27 posted on 11/04/2012 5:55:12 AM PST by mazda77
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To: bray; All
Great stuff as usual bray. Your efforts and many others have been one of the many weapons in the arsenal of conservatives that will sweep Mitt Romney to victory this Tuesday.

The Benghazi story has evolved so much its hard to keep up with.

A few weeks ago I thought that Stevens was to be kidnapped and than traded for the blind sheik --Omar Abdul Rahman. But when you see what happened that really doesn't make much sense.

All terror types respect and love the blind shiek,Rahman. Why would they kill Stevens if that was the reason? Recently, I have ran across more links that suggest that both Hillary and Obama have been playing their favorite terrorists to whatever political gain they can achieve. Hillary of course is in love with the MB courtesy of her gay lover Houma Abeden.

Zero supposedly made a deal with his favorite terrorist to give them money, arms,(all done through Chris Stevens of course--who was reportedly a practicing muslim and spoke fluent Arabic) and allow them to smuggle drugs in exchange for not committing terrorists acts here at home,here in the U.S. that would negatively effect his numbers. With the regime its always about politics and getting reelected. Nothing else matters. Notice there have been few terrorists hits here in the US--is that coincidence,who knows?

Zero armed terrorists in Libya and then again in Syria(using Stevens again) not really caring which ones got the weapons as long as they took out Gadaffi.

Seems the ones who got the weapons did the damage in Benghazi.

From what I have put together from various links on the internet Benghazi was supposed to go like this: They(the regime) would bribe a couple of dozen youth to protest the video(I found two links that confirmed this) then real terrorists "supposedly" under the control of the Obama regime would kidnap Stevens. Obama would rescue him and he would have something to talk about at the debates.Once again politics trumps all.

As we see the terror types got tired of being the fall guys. Instead we know what they did to Stevens and the other CIA guys. This is also the reason why no help was called in, and those who tried to help,the admiral and the general in N.Africa were told not to. When they persisted they were fired or severely reprimanded. Zero thought the terrorists were "his" terrorists so why call in for help?

Only after it was too late did they figure out they had been double crossed.

Hillary had her escape. She had forwarded all Stevens requests for additional security up the chain of command.Doing that she knew she was safe saying "the buck stopped with her." Petraeus at CIA who was undoubtedly in on it as well. He stated that "no CIA requests for help had been denied" covering his scrawny ass as well.

It's convoluted as hell but this is basically what I have figured out that happened.

28 posted on 11/04/2012 5:57:40 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: MNJohnnie

Romney wins Oregon. We have been chasing ballots from Repubs and are shocked with how many are sending them in. We have been voting for 3 weeks and there is something going on with the energy from our side.

Romney in a landslide.

Pray for America


29 posted on 11/04/2012 5:57:40 AM PST by bray (Nov 6, tell Obama to Stand Down!)
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To: RayChuang88

That’s good analysis and I hope you are correct.
In the end, I personally think Romney will win in a shockingly decisive fashion—possibly as high as 335 Electoral College votes at minimum.

Why? I cite the following reasons:

1) Americans—especially in suburban and rural areas—are rapidly tiring of Obama’s domestic and foreign policies. The huge loss of jobs, the persistently high U-6 unemployment/underemployment rate and high energy prices have effectively stunted what should have been a robust recovery from the 2008 stock market crash.

2) Obama pushed through Obamacare, which will result in higher medical insurance premiums, smaller selection of health care providers, and more taxes to pay for it.

3) Obama has effectively stopped the expansion of exploitation of American energy resources, especially our huge reserves of coal and newly-discovered huge reserves of oil and natural gas found by new production methods.

4) Enthusiasm for Romney is huge, as noted by the gigantic turnout at every political rally Romney has attended (so much so that there are huge numbers of people having to be turned away!). Meanwhile, the 2012 rallies for Obama has been reduced to very small fraction of the size of the 2008 rallies for Obama.

5) Voters in suburban and rural areas are overwhelmingly in support of Romney. This will effectively erase the advantage of support of Obama in urban areas in almost every “battleground state.”

6) The GOP voter base is hugely energized this time around to vote out Obama, since the GOP get out the vote effort is much more effective in 2012 than in 2008.


That’s real good analysis and I hope and pray you are correct.

But the Friday downturn in the Rasmussen national poll is scary—and I think directly linked to Chris Christie’s remarkable Quisling act.

The fact is, that last 10 percent of the electorate are the ones who whine about politicians in Washington “getting along” and all that naive jazz.

And even Romney’s finishing stump speech this week consumes about half of the effort on the “reaching across the aisle” shuck and jive—because he understands these people are ALWAYS “up for grabs” in their muddled thinking.

I’m hoping the ground game obviates this nitwit demographic in any case, but the nitwits are many and Christie (who certainly wants to run in 2016 and could care less about anything else) played them like a fiddle last week.

I mean, he proved himself to be a real cunning piece of sleaze.


30 posted on 11/04/2012 5:58:44 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Diogenesis

Great stuff, hard to forget Benghazi!


31 posted on 11/04/2012 5:59:23 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!
America will not survive if we cannot trust our leaders. Democracy only survives when the truth is sanctified rather than something to be hidden. Transparency is required from every level of our gummit and what is severely lacking in this one.

Just happened to be looking at some Patrick Henry quotes yesterday (he's one of my favorite 'sons of Virginia') .... these two aply:

“The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.”

“It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts... For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.”

32 posted on 11/04/2012 6:00:19 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: rodguy911

bump


33 posted on 11/04/2012 6:01:04 AM PST by cajungirl
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To: bray
Romney wins Oregon... Romney in a landslide

From your keyboard to God's ears...

34 posted on 11/04/2012 6:01:24 AM PST by Gritty (Back in Benghazi, the cool President in a bomber jacket is all jacket and no bombers-Mark Steyn)
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To: Alas Babylon!; bray

Oops AB, meant to post to Bray - thanks for posting Bray’s ‘editorials’ every week!

Bray, ping to comment #32


35 posted on 11/04/2012 6:02:52 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: rodguy911

From what I have put together from various links on the internet Benghazi was supposed to go like this: They(the regime) would bribe a couple of dozen youth to protest the video(I found two links that confirmed this) then real terrorists “supposedly” under the control of the Obama regime would kidnap Stevens. Obama would rescue him and he would have something to talk about at the debates.Once again politics trumps all.

As we see the terror types got tired of being the fall guys. Instead we know what they did to Stevens and the other CIA guys. This is also the reason why no help was called in, and those who tried to help,the admiral and the general in N.Africa were told not to. When they persisted they were fired or severely reprimanded. Zero thought the terrorists were “his” terrorists so why call in for help?

Only after it was too late did they figure out they had been double crossed.


I think one of the things that might well have happened here is that the “safe room” HVAC protection failed and that’s what killed Stevens and Smith in the end.

I’m not sure there was a double-cross in any case.


36 posted on 11/04/2012 6:04:01 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Diogenesis

37 posted on 11/04/2012 6:04:06 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Gritty
Yet another factoid. The two CIA guys former seals Doherty and Woods took out 60 terrorists on their own,a remarkable feat considering the odds of about 150 to two.These two guys deserve the highest medals ever awarded to any man anywhere.

Rumors were when the terrorists found out how badly they had been beaten they were furious!Note to terror types'

DONT MESS WITH SEALS!!

38 posted on 11/04/2012 6:04:14 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: All

Preparing to watch Hitler’s lips move.


39 posted on 11/04/2012 6:05:41 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: rodguy911

Here’s the theory of how the hostage got killed. They thought they could get there unopposed with the stand down order but Woods disobeyed the order and killed 30-40 terrorists before getting killed so they killed Stevens. This would explain Biden’s balls like bowling balls line.

The other way may have been they couldn’t get to him so they started the fire and he died of smoke inhalation and now they had a dead hostage. Best guess would be the revenge factor.


40 posted on 11/04/2012 6:07:28 AM PST by bray (Nov 6, tell Obama to Stand Down!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I’m just thrilled that the bastards in the LAMEstream media are paying proper respect to the Benghazi 4.

Yeah, I know the election is Tuesday. But at least one of them could have devoted 10 minutes to this travesty.


41 posted on 11/04/2012 6:07:43 AM PST by upchuck (Our margin of victory this November 6th MUST BE greater than their margin of fraud.)
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To: PaleoBob
... the “safe room” HVAC protection failed ...

I read something on this the other day, wish I could remember the source. There was NO "HVAC" in the safe room - no fire supression, source of air, etc. in the event of a fire. The comments were that the 'safe' room had never been properly set up - yes, they had bars, some supplies, but no way to get through something like a fire. Another example of total negligence and incompetence when it came to security and safety.

42 posted on 11/04/2012 6:07:49 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: MissMagnolia

“The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.”


I think this one might be what inspired Newsday (!!!) to endorse Romney today.

Well, the principle Henry expressed AND the fact that government transparency is, ultimately, currency for the press.

I’ve been wondering if my former keepers in the lamestream media would EVER speak up on behalf of their own business interests....


43 posted on 11/04/2012 6:08:33 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: MissMagnolia; cajungirl

Every election we have some surprises. People win that should not or lose that should not.

Just for fun what are Sunday threads readers prediction for this Elections “unexpected” result?

My prediction, Obama wins Ohio causing the Media to call the election early but Obama loses Wis and Colorado late in the night to lose the election.

Other surprise Akin wins the US Senate seat in MO and is the 51st GOP Senator


44 posted on 11/04/2012 6:09:31 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: wayoverontheright

I am just shocked when I happen to see Obama appearances on this weekend before the election and he still has his teleprompters. If he hasn’t ‘internalized’ his message after all his campaigning then I worry about his mental capacity — and the mental capacity of every ‘reporter’ who travel with him, are forced to be present at every rally, and refuse to let the American public know that the O still needs to read his message.

PS: I have serious worries about the mental status of the vpotus. He is showing signs of dementia. They are not just funny gaffes.


45 posted on 11/04/2012 6:12:29 AM PST by maica
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Wallace grilling A***rod about Bengazi.

Not in WH, not privy to discussions. He’s (Obama) bent over backwards to protect this country.

Wallace asking what did the president know and when did he know it?

Hitler: President didn’t know about additional requests, throws NSA under bus.

Wallace: President’s response to the second attack.

Hitler: They took every step they could take, what steps should we take in the future.

Wallace: Why return to campaign within 3 hours in Las Vegas of Bengazi attack.

Hitler: Humina humina everything that could be done, he had done.

Wallace: You have bet your moustache, just how secure is that moustache?


46 posted on 11/04/2012 6:13:08 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for the thread, AB!

ABC, Plouffe responds to Guilliani’s “popping off” (Plouffe’s phrase) about obama’s campaigning while bodies are still being discovered in the East. runs down all the stuff being done there....right.

Plouffe says it’s a smokescreen that Romney has certain states in the bag. see, see, Romney is having to go after West Virginia, Florida, etc. okey-doke.

All Gov. Romeny is offering is ideas that wrecked our economy in the first place. lolololololol - infinity


47 posted on 11/04/2012 6:13:08 AM PST by Girlene
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To: PaleoBob

It amazes me when I go back and look at the things Patrick Henry, George Washington, etc. said way back in “the day”. STILL so applicable to today which just tells me yet again how remarkable the founding of this country was, what extraordinary people were involved, and how blessed we were and are to have had this happen. The founding principles and the Constitution have the hand of God in them and I just love it when Paul Ryan says they should be ‘reapplied’. If we do that, I think the country will survive .... we see what happens when someone like Obozo tramples everything & spits in God’s eye, to put it mildly. I just hope God continues to bless us with a president who loves America, not one who has demonstrated malice in his heart for America and her people.


48 posted on 11/04/2012 6:13:45 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Fishtalk
F.Chuck now on MTP with DNC dav just showed made pup stats that show zero with a 68/15% ratings for his handling of hurricane Sandy.No thanks to that fat basturd Chris Christie who will never go anywhere in our party ever again!

Problem is zeros numbers have to have been tanking ever since Christie's BJ with: long mile long gas lines, people still sitting on roof tops waiting for fema,non-union South Carolina electricians being banned from helping,no water,people wandering aimlessly on Long Island and general dissarray of any management in the real world of the hurricane victims.

49 posted on 11/04/2012 6:13:46 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

He just guarenteed to Chris that the next time he sees him he’ll still have his moustache. Let’s pray he is dead wrong.


50 posted on 11/04/2012 6:14:02 AM PST by animal172 (Go Paul Ryan. Chew 'em up and spit 'em out.)
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