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Zogby: Sandy Helping Obama With Independents
Newsmax ^ | 11/2/12 | John Bachman and Patrick Hobin

Posted on 11/03/2012 5:56:48 AM PDT by lasereye

Despite President Barack Obama turning the tide with a five-point swing among Independents with his response to Hurricane Sandy, the race is still too close to call, pollster John Zogby tells Newsmax TV.

The latest NewsmaxZogby polling numbers show Obama, who was down three points just a few days ago, has pulled ahead by a couple of points.

Zogby said the president is “turning the tide with Independents.”

“He was down by as many as nine and 10 points nationally among independents and now what we see is that that’s a razor thin,” he said.

“The governor leads by only three points among independents and it’s trending Obama. I wouldn’t call this big momentum but . . . he was down three points three days ago and now he’s up two. That is a five-point swing. At the same time, we do see him improving his numbers with young voters and hitting the 60 percent mark. And, of course, that’s very significant. It doesn’t match what he did last time but it’s enough to put him in contention. And right now I wouldn’t tell you to see your bookie with a thousand-dollar bet on Obama winning but it’s certainly looking better, obviously, more competitive.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 2012swingvote; independents; obama; poll; sandy; zogby; zogby4alqaeda; zogby4obama; zogbysauce; zogbysauce4obama
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1 posted on 11/03/2012 5:56:55 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye

Zogster is hedging his bets.

They all want to play it safe!


2 posted on 11/03/2012 5:58:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: lasereye

Well, then independents are real idiots.

What did Obama do about Sandy?


3 posted on 11/03/2012 5:59:25 AM PDT by Jake8898
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To: lasereye

I doubt this greatly John as this situation is rapidly turning into a travesty. Looks more like your special sauce is being applied.


4 posted on 11/03/2012 5:59:43 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: lasereye
What did he do besides flap his gums?

His response to Hurricane Sandy just proves that Ubama hates white people.

5 posted on 11/03/2012 5:59:47 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: lasereye

So people are gonna vote for his loser again because he showed an hour the day after a storm, posed for pics and left? Meanwhile have these independents paid attention to the news and the fact part of NY and NJ are still begging for help four days later??


6 posted on 11/03/2012 6:00:17 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: lasereye

Surprise, surprise....Obama has the Zogby/Arab vote.


7 posted on 11/03/2012 6:00:29 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: snarkytart

Whenever I see people being interviewed in NY who are out of food, water, fuel etc. they say the Red Cross isn’t helping. Is this a Twilight Zone episode?


8 posted on 11/03/2012 6:04:10 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye

I’ll take Michael Barone over Zogby any day.

The data is a mess because the D+ oversampling is a mess.

When you have a bad model, you get bad data. That’s true for Zogster and for all of them!


9 posted on 11/03/2012 6:04:12 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: snarkytart

My sentiments exactly. You beat me to it. He shows up for an hour and Bam! The indies are on board? Gimmie a break.


10 posted on 11/03/2012 6:05:08 AM PDT by waxer1 ("The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: lasereye

Does not make sense, he screwed the nation for 4 years and one good photo op with a RINO is turning the tide in his favor?

Now how is that Sandy propaganda going to fix the economy and foreign policy?

I don’t see a common sense link to Sandy here that would change a common sense voter’s mind about obama.

But then again, where was common sense when he was elected in the first place?


11 posted on 11/03/2012 6:05:11 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: goldstategop

Sandy will be just another albatross around Obama’s neck. Each night the misery and lack of help will be flashed across the TV screen. Just like so many other promises, Obama has failed to deliver. It will be painfully obvious all the way to November 6th.


12 posted on 11/03/2012 6:06:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: lasereye

Katrina: "Where's Bush?"
Katrina: "Where's The governor? Where's the mayor? Where's FEMA?"

As usual, everyone to blame but Oblamer. The MSM is doubly throlled because this helps them to keep Benghazi off the front page.

13 posted on 11/03/2012 6:06:49 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: txrefugee

Have not cared for Newsmax since shortly after Clinton left office and Christopher Ruddy said he had not meant the things he said about the liar and that Clinton was a great guy.


14 posted on 11/03/2012 6:06:49 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: lasereye

OOOOPSSS!

Katrina: "Where's Bush?"
Sandy: "Where's The governor? Where's the mayor? Where's FEMA?"

As usual, everyone to blame but Oblamer. The MSM is doubly throlled because this helps them to keep Benghazi off the front page.

15 posted on 11/03/2012 6:08:15 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Jake8898

“What did Obama do about Sandy?”

He gave one of his speeches and it bored the storm to death.

The storm couldn’t take the nonsense and the silliness any more so it left town.


16 posted on 11/03/2012 6:08:50 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: lasereye

Obama wouldn’t get that much of a bump by just showing but it was Christie’s over the top praise that did it. He’s a Rep and praising Obama like he had a big ol’ school girl crush and for what? His state on the shore is still an effing disaster and now Independents are moving back to that bastard! And it’s not just Zogby, Rasmussen is showing the same trend with Indies this last few days; moving to Obama.

(&&#*) YOU, Chrisie.


17 posted on 11/03/2012 6:09:25 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: goldstategop

I think Zogby has it all wrong!!! Obama now owns his very own “Katrina” fiasco!!!


18 posted on 11/03/2012 6:09:42 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Jake8898
Well, then independents are real idiots.

I believe most independs are libs. It is a created group to get more liberal views out while seeming non-partisan. Much like 'moderates'

All BS

19 posted on 11/03/2012 6:10:37 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: lasereye

Obama made promises of assistance to Sandy victims that he cannot accomplish, and people are getting more pissed off about it. By the time Tuesday gets here, Sandy is going to be a negative for Obama.


20 posted on 11/03/2012 6:10:37 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Jake8898

“What did Obama do about Sandy?”

Are you still alive? Apparently. All because of Obama. Just as everything bad is Bush’s fault, all good flows from The O.


21 posted on 11/03/2012 6:11:26 AM PDT by all the best (`~!)
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To: lasereye
All you need to know about Zogby...

Final General Election Polls by Accuracy - 2008

1T. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
1T. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
3. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
4. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
5. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
6T. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
6T. ARG (10/25-27)*
8T. CNN (10/30-11/1)
8T. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
10. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
11. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
12. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
13. FOX (11/1-2)
14. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
15. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
16. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
17. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
18. Marist College (11/3)
19. CBS (10/31-11/2)
20. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
21. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
22. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
23. Newsweek (10/22-23)

Back in the mid to late 1990's Zogby use to be a respected and accurate pollster, but sometime after 9/11 he took a far left turn and became little more than a democrat push pollster (as an an Arab, he thought GWB was on a crusade to destroy the Muslim world or some such nonsense). He lost all remaining credibility when on the eve of the 2004 election he predicted John Kerry would win by a 4-6 point margin.

22 posted on 11/03/2012 6:12:02 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Jake8898

Hamas and AlQuaida and the Communist Party and Castro and Chavez and Putin and Madonna and Barbara Streisand and Michael Moore and “reverand” Wright and the Muslim Brotherhood (and Zobgy) support Obama.

Independents do not.

(What did Obama do for the people of the East Coast suffering from the storm? He went there for a nice quick Photo Op and then raced off to raise even more $$$ for himself at stupid-rich people’s dinners....). That’s what Obama did for the storm victims. So naturally they’ll all line up to vote for him, right!?


23 posted on 11/03/2012 6:12:05 AM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: lasereye

This Dem party operative is pushing more lies and spin using a online polling crapola system !

Why do you post crap from
The LAndslide Kerry operative who tried to throw the 2004 election with that bold faced lie !
The guy should have done jai time for that alone !


24 posted on 11/03/2012 6:12:05 AM PDT by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: txrefugee

Well Zogby and his rants post Sept 11 2001 his hatred of Republicans is well know. Nobody listens to him anymore, his outfit is like PPP, juggling numbers to get the result he wants. This last article is a joke. I mean really John a few pictures and this is going to change the election not exaclty LIFE magazine Mi Lai type stuff, are you really this stupid? I have seen Rassmussen interviewed lately and I think he is the next one on the ash heap of history. Probably come in the bottom 1/4 of all the polls. Fatty in his zeal to be fair to the demonic forces on the left has been tone deaf and intransigent also. Micheal Barrone put it correctly on Hannity. Polling was invented in the time where everyone had a land-line, and people answered it. Public Polling is not even good for gauging sentiment anymore, its just about useless. Magic 8 ball is better. Internal poling by the campaigns is done by phone but also by a young pretty thing holding a clipboard outside a grocery store...I was polled this way. Romney has it won...its over and has been over since 2010, this is all Kabuki theater


25 posted on 11/03/2012 6:13:05 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: Jake8898

What did Obama do about Sandy?


Doesn’t matter what he did. It’s what Pravda West SAID he did that matters. Anyway, this isn’t good news only 3 days out. Libs were crowing that Sandy would put him over the top. They might just be right.


26 posted on 11/03/2012 6:13:56 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: waxer1

Has the network news been covering the aftermath of the storm or basically down playing the fact people are still out of homes, gas, food, etc?


27 posted on 11/03/2012 6:14:03 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart
Are you going to Concern Troll every thread till election day? We get it, you are nervous, you are predisposed to be skeptical and negative. Home stretch honey, we don't need your emoting and vomiting your thoughts on why you are uneasy in every damn thread. Don't you have kids to take care of, laundry to fold or grocery shopping to do? Maybe you should go do that, you are real Debbie Downer and unnecessarily so.
28 posted on 11/03/2012 6:17:31 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
I think Zogby has it all wrong!!! Obama now owns his very own “Katrina” fiasco!!!

You got that right.

Government incompetence on the parade. If it isn't union rules interfering with relief efforts, it is the gross misallocation of funds, resources and services people are desperately relying upon.

29 posted on 11/03/2012 6:17:44 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: lasereye
That was before the “freeze and starve in the dark” headlines started setting in. The news now is “where's the help?” People are scrounging dumpsters for food, pooping in apartment hallways, waiting in mile-long lines for gas, and unions are turning away non-union utility company help. These are the headlines people associate with Sandy now.

Gee, Big Government DIDN'T make it all better??? Sorry. There was no problem finding fuel for Air Force One to jet in for a quick photo op, but the rest of you folks enjoy them gas lines. Big Brother Cares.

30 posted on 11/03/2012 6:17:55 AM PDT by Puddleglum (The road to the White House goes through Benghazi.)
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To: snarkytart

Obama wouldn’t get that much of a bump by just showing but it was Christie’s over the top praise that did it. He’s a Rep and praising Obama like he had a big ol’ school girl crush and for what? His state on the shore is still an effing disaster and now Independents are moving back to that bastard! And it’s not just Zogby, Rasmussen is showing the same trend with Indies this last few days; moving to Obama.


Yup. I bet that Christie’s being obama’s puppet had a lot to do with it, too.


31 posted on 11/03/2012 6:17:55 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: snarkytart

It’s a scam .
Axelrod sent out the directive to massage polls and use sandy as the excuse !
Sandy is old news now except for the mess created by govt .
Don’t fall for it .

As for Ras , his state by state polling record is pretty bad only his natl poll is accurate and it means nothing this year .

Ras is still using a very inaccurate + 4 Dem sample and for no reason .
He refuse to state why he uses it .

Look for Ras to fall from
His accuracy standing this year !


32 posted on 11/03/2012 6:18:27 AM PDT by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: FatherofFive

Precisely. So-called independents are just people who are too clueless to know *what* they are, and/or too gutless to admit that they are really liberals.

Either way — clueless or gutless — when confronted with a choice between Mitt Romney and 4 more years of Bonzo the Wonder Chimp, you can count on them voting the wrong way nearly every time.

Romney is not now, and never was, up big among so-called independents. I said weeks ago that any media-cooked poll that showed otherwise was only fabricating a temporary lead in that category for Romney so that that they could gleefully show him crashing back down at the last minute — which is *exactly* what the media is doing.

Remember all that “How can Romney be up only 2 points overall when he is up 15 among independents?” crap? That’s just what it was — crap. A fabricated lead among independents created only for the purposes of destroying that lead at the proper time, which is now.


33 posted on 11/03/2012 6:19:43 AM PDT by PermaRag (If Trayvon had a father, he'd look just like Obama)
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To: goldstategop
Zogster has nothing to do but make shit up. He should go take a ride to Staten Island.
34 posted on 11/03/2012 6:19:58 AM PDT by angcat (ROMNEY/RYAN 2012)
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To: pburgh01

That posters concern troll act has gotten old .
He is spitting out the Axelrod talking points in a subtle way weather he realizes it or not .


35 posted on 11/03/2012 6:20:44 AM PDT by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: snarkytart

There does seem to be some tightening of the Indy vote the last week. This is across several polls, including RAS. Whether it is the hurricane or just the normal tightening of the race, I don’t know.

I still believe Romney will with 53-47, due to massive GOTV. But I don’t think we can discount the Indy vote dynamics. The problem with the hurricane from an election perspective, is will it impact the vote. Or is it just impacting the polling?


36 posted on 11/03/2012 6:20:50 AM PDT by gswilder
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To: chessplayer

Welp too bad for zerO his party has been pushing early voting and now the republicans utilized it this year as well. Those last minute game changers in a race don’t really have the impact they used to, and the aftermath of the storm is just being shown on TV the last two days. By Tuesday nobody is gonna remember a photo op. The people are voting on the fact friends, family are being laid off, or having to take part time low paying jobs to survive. Lets not forget Obamacare is extremely unpopular. What has zer0 said he was gonna do the next four years but raise taxes on “the rich” and enforce his horror show called Obamacare?!


37 posted on 11/03/2012 6:20:50 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: SeaHawkFan

Some Republicans, maybe including Romney, have to say something about it. Otherwise it’s like they don’t think anything’s wrong. Something like “Where is FEMA? Why aren’t they helping? Mr. President, people are still without heat in their homes and water to drink”


38 posted on 11/03/2012 6:23:33 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: ncalburt

I hate to turn on Ras now because just last week when Romney was 50 for days we all cheered the poll. Now it’s tied we say it’s not reliable?
okay. But hopefully you’re right!
It’s all about turnout anyway at this stage of the game.


39 posted on 11/03/2012 6:23:33 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: lasereye


40 posted on 11/03/2012 6:23:46 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: all the best

“Are you still alive? Apparently. All because of Obama.”

You’re correct. Although I’m down in The South I should have realized obama even saved me.


41 posted on 11/03/2012 6:27:11 AM PDT by Jake8898
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To: pburgh01

You go fold laundry and take care of kids, asshole. I’ve been here longer than you and will express my concern in every thread if I want. People know I’m 100% behind Romney. I’ve been here long enough to remember being told every poll is a lie for this or that race which was showing us losing, and been told “insiders” have the real numbers and they’re better than the polls we see, and been told how the ground game is better than ever for us, only to lose on election night and be very disappointed.

I’m trying to be realistic a little. If all polls show a trend toward Obama then just MAYBE the Sandy disaster did help zerO with indies. Are you that ignorant to not even think it could be true?
Does it mean he’ll win? NO! Is it probably a temp bump? YES! But I’m not gonna pretend he didn’t get a little help from Sandy this past week.


42 posted on 11/03/2012 6:30:29 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: chessplayer

There is NO poll out now or in the past which lists as among the most important issues the governments response to storm damage etc.

What each and every poll DOES show is the most important issues to them are JOB and the economy followed by our debt problems. And while the media spin on this may move his approval numbers a point or 2 for a few days they will not change the vote of anyone whose mind was made up already and only a small % of those few who are as yet undecided.


43 posted on 11/03/2012 6:31:17 AM PDT by Lacey2
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To: gswilder

No matter what people here wish, Obama did get a bounce out of the storm - it also enabled him to move off the wholly negative “Save Big Bird” campaign and look presidential, notwithstanding that his “walkabout” accomplished nothing substantive. I agree that Christie went way overboard, totally unnecessary and damaging, for whatever purpose (it is unlikely that someone of this size has a career in national politics in any event). But I also expect the positive impact of it for Obama to largely dissipate by Tuesday, particularly as the photos of long gas lines, cold weather and angry residents resonate. So, instead of the 52-47 Romney vote I thought likely a few days ago, it would appear to be more likely to be 51-48 or even 50-49. If the last result is the case, I have a real concern that Romney could lose the EV but win the popular vote, given the shakiness of Ohio.


44 posted on 11/03/2012 6:32:06 AM PDT by laconic
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To: lasereye

This poll was released to move the RCP average for Obamugabe.


45 posted on 11/03/2012 6:32:25 AM PDT by Lacey2
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To: gswilder

There does seem to be some tightening of the Indy vote the last week. This is across several polls, including RAS. Whether it is the hurricane or just the normal tightening of the race, I don’t know.

I still believe Romney will with 53-47, due to massive GOTV. But I don’t think we can discount the Indy vote dynamics. The problem with the hurricane from an election perspective, is will it impact the vote. Or is it just impacting the polling?
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Thank you for being at least reasonable in responding to my worries about this so-called collapse among indies with Romney.


46 posted on 11/03/2012 6:33:19 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

John who?


47 posted on 11/03/2012 6:36:19 AM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: snarkytart
Oh the irony of your response, still more negativity. Thanks you proved my point, better than I ever could of. I just love when we have self appointed Oracles of Reality that need to set us straight, they need to tell us to see the world the way it really is. I am not going to thoroughly destroy you on your sophistic comment on Sandy and the polls, how its you babe who have drunken the kool-aid. You know you are right, we will lose Tuesday, you can be right, which some women just make it their mission in life to be.
48 posted on 11/03/2012 6:38:31 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: lasereye

If a few days of photo ops is enough to make people forget 4years of complete incompetency maybe the country doesn’t want to be saved.


49 posted on 11/03/2012 6:38:37 AM PDT by CPONuke
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To: laconic

I agree with everything you posted. There was def a bump, but it was very temporary and most people are more concerned with jobs and the debt etc.


50 posted on 11/03/2012 6:40:32 AM PDT by snarkytart
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