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Democrats Choose To Ignore 2010 (Its The Values Voters, Stupid Alert)
Rush Limbaugh ^ | 11/01/2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 11/01/2012 1:45:23 PM PDT by goldstategop

RUSH: Again, I want to go back. There are two polling groups that have pulled out of Virginia (one of them a month ago) saying that it's over in and North Carolina. Suffolk Polling pulled out. They’re thinking, “It's over there. We're not gonna spend any more money there.”

Another poll pulled out of Florida yesterday or the day before. But the Drive-Bys continue to poll these states, obviously, and the Drive-Bys continue to put out polling data. “It's tied! It's Obama here, Obama there, Romney there!” Nobody knows. That's why I say it's a turnout election now. It really is a turnout election. I was reading something today...

And all of this is anecdotal. I'm almost reluctant to pass this kind of stuff on because you can't say that it means anything nationally, but it's still interesting to hear. A college professor sent a note. I think it was to National Review, but it might have been Red State or some other blog. The college professor said (summarized, “You know, students in my classes this year could not care less about this election, versus the students in my class four years ago.

“This year, they don't care. They're not even paying much attention to it. And in a turnout election, if that means anything -- if that ever could be extrapolated and said to have some scientific relationship to students across the country -- it's not good for Obama.” But you just don't know. Here's a story from the Washington Times by Ralph Hallow.

The headline: “Analysts Say Polls Point to Romney Triumph -- The tidal wave of anti-debt, anti-big-government voters that swamped Democrats in the 2010 congressional elections is readying itself again, poised to sweep Mitt Romney into the Oval Office... ‘It’s very, very likely,’ veteran Republican campaign pollster John McLaughlin [who’s working with Dick Morris] said, predicting a Romney tsunami Tuesday.

“‘Romney has surged in all the target states,’ Mr. McLaughlin said. ‘The undecided vote is not really undecided. They overwhelmingly disapprove of the job the president has done and will largely vote against the incumbent. It’s a hidden vote that will vote against the president.’” This is John McLaughlin, a recognized Republican pollster, again working with Dick Morris.

He said the undecided vote really has made up their minds and it's anti-Obama. The question is do they show up or not. That’s really what it's gonna come down to. The undecideds may not vote. Or they may. But they are undecided because they're not voting for Obama. That's what “undecided” at this stage always means. They always break, a vast majority of them break against the incumbent. Now, there's also...

Oh, what is their point about the...? Well, it'll come to me. But the next story is from Dan Henninger today in the Wall Street Journal. “Romney's Secret Voting Block.” Oh, I know what it was. It's all about some people have analyzed what the Obama strategy is, and I think they're right about this. What the Obama campaign team is doing is trying to re-create 2008’s turnout. They're trying to re-create that coalition of support.

And in the process, the analysts are saying that the mistake the Obama people are making is to ignore what happened in 2010. I have to tell you, folks, I think everybody's ignoring 2010 except me. I think 2010 matters big time. Now, the experts, the analysts, consultants, disagree. I'm not one of those. I mean, I'm not a political professional; I'm a professional, real radio announcer.

But 2010 was huge.

That's the Tea Party. That's average Americans fed up, getting involved for the first time in their lives over debt and the growing size of government and what it means to their kids, and they've not gone anywhere. And they're just as upset now as they were in 2010. And I think any campaign that thinks that has died out or that that doesn't matter because it was a midterm election and presidential races are different...

And they are. There's no candidate in the 2010 midterms, which I think is even worse for Obama. These were people coming out against ideas, which is what we want. I mean, if you get into Politics 101 or Civics 101, we've seen all the details. When you first start learning about this stuff, the thing that you're taught is that the best ideas win. It's only later that you learn how the business gets corrupted and how money matters.

It’s only then you learn how votes are purchased and there's fraud and deceit and all that kind of stuff. But in the clean, baby-like infant world when you're first learning, you think ideas matter. Well, that's what was great about 2010. That was an ideas election. It was Obama's ideas being rejected and Obama himself being rejected, and it was a huge landslide defeat for the Democrats. And they are choosing to ignore that.

They think it doesn't matter. They're trying to re-create what happened in 2008 without considering what happened in 2010. Now, this is why some of the analysts on our side are predicting a big Romney win. But 2010 does matter. It really happened. And it was devastating for the Democrats, and it's not done one thing but get worse since then. It hasn't gotten any better.

Spending has gone up, the debt has gotten larger, family income has shrunk, and unemployment has gone up. The poverty level has gone up. The number of people on food stamps has almost doubled. I mean, from 2008, it's disaster out there. And I think people that just wanna write 2010 off as an anomaly -- which is what Obama's doing -- that's the essence of wishful thinking, if you ask me.

That's the avoidance of reality, if you ask me.

To sweep 2010 away doesn't mean because it wasn't a presidential race, there weren't any candidates. Now you have candidates out there, national candidates: Romney and Obama. That's gonna change the way people vote as opposed to way they vote in midterms. We shall see. But 2010 was an uprising in this country against Obama and everything he stands for and an uprising against the Democrat Party.

Now, I can understand why they'd want to try to pretend it didn't happen 'cause these people create these little bubbles of reality in which they live, and anything that challenges it they don't let in. And Daniel Henninger today, Wall Street Journal: “Romney's Secret Voting Bloc.” I love this. I love this. Because I think this is true as well. He starts out this way:

“You've heard about Mitt Romney's problems with the women's vote, the black vote, the Hispanic vote, the union vote and the young Democrats vote. But there's one major voting group that's fallen off the map since the primaries,” that nobody's talking about. Nobody is referencing them, nobody is factoring them. Snerdley, off the top of your fertile mind do you...? (interruption) Nope, not white males. White males might be a subgroup of this group, but it's not what Henninger is talking about.

“The evangelical vote.” The evangelical vote. What would you call them, the religious right, the value voters, or (as they would say at Planned Parenthood), “The damn pro-lifers.” Some moderate Republicans would say “damn pro-lifers,” too, but they're not being counted on. They're not being polled. They're not being factored. They're not considered a constituency.

I'll tell you the story again. You've heard this story, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna tell it again because of the new-tune-in factor here. You wouldn't believe each week the number of people tuning into this program for the first time after 25 years. I was at a big bash of establishment Republican donors and fundraisers and cabinet secretaries in the early nineties in the Hamptons. After dinner -- and I've only been doing the show by that time four years or so, so I'm still really still green. I'm still really naive in a lot of ways. I, for example, think that we're all Republicans and we're all on the same team.

I had this one guy (who you would know if I were to ever announce his name) come up to me on the deck after dinner and start poking me in the chest with the index finger. He said to me, “What are you gonna do about the Christians?” I, quite naturally, was taken aback. I didn’t know what he was talking about, because he was mad.

I said, “What are you talking about?”

“That damn abortion! We're never gonna win a damn election as long as those people are considered prominent in our party. It’s never gonna happen. They turn women off every damn day! We’re never gonna win. We gotta get rid of them.”

I looked at him and said, “You know, they are 24 million votes. You wouldn't be winning any election without them.”

Then he said, “All right, I'm just kidding you. I'm just having a little fun with you,” and maybe part of it was.

But I've always known since then that at certain levels of the Republican establishment there is a deep fear of these people, 'cause they're embarrassing to go to the convention with and they're considered single-issue voters. Their wives are all feminists and don't like these people and they get nagged about it. But the point is, they are a large part of the Tea Party. They are a large part of the what happened in 2010. And the evangelicals, the media hates 'em, the Democrats hate 'em, and they tell themselves that they don't matter. They're just a bunch of really dumb, stupid, single-issue people.

Have you heard any discussion of this voting bloc in this whole campaign? You haven't, have you? They are 24 million votes. They always have been. And they are way under the radar of the Drive-Bys, at least publicly. I'm sure that Axelrod and Plouffe and these guys live in mortal fear of them. They're never gonna acknowledge it. But, you see, the media and the Democrats are not interested or even curious to learn anything about these people. They so despise them and resent them, and conservatives in general. Liberals don't even care to understand us. They just reject. The same thing with Tea Party people. They're dumb, stupid. They don't know what they're doing. They're not professionals. They're just these average citizens that show up at town halls, they don't know what they're doing. So there's a resentment of them, and they're denigrated. They're impugned and laughed at.

They love to report on the Obama agenda, the War on Women and the gay activist vote, blacks, illegals, college students, but in the 2002 midterms, they got gobsmacked. I remember I was on election night coverage with Tom Brokaw and Tim Russert, and they had no idea what hit 'em. And in the exit polls of the midterms in 2002, the value voters, the number one issue for Republicans that voted in the midterms was values, Democrat Party values. And everybody was shocked. Now, the evangelical vote doesn't vote every year. They don't vote every election. They are the kind that will sit out elections if they're single issue or maybe their top two issues are not met. It's spending and it's life, and if those things are not addressed, they'll sit out rather than vote. But if they show up and vote, they're never accounted for. And Henninger's piece here is all about there's a whole bunch of them that are going to vote. In fact, Franklin Graham, Billy Graham's son, has just fairly recently began to mobilize his flock in this regard.

Let me take a break. I gotta take a break otherwise engineer is gonna panic and I'll have big trouble

RUSH: Now, as to the evangelicals. "When Mitt Romney's 2012 candidacy was gaining traction in the primaries, the conventional wisdom instantly conveyed that the evangelical vote, skeptical of Mormonism, would sink him. What if in Ohio next week the opposite is true? There and in other swing states -- Wisconsin, Iowa, North Carolina, Florida -- the evangelical vote is flying beneath the media's radar. It's a lot of voters not to notice. In the 2008 presidential vote, they were 30% of the vote in Ohio, 31% in Iowa and 26% in Wisconsin." And a lot of people voted for Obama because they bought into this messianic stuff.

But they aren't buying into it anymore. Once you fail at being messiah you don't ever get that back. They're 24 million, maybe more now. It was 24 million in the early nineties. Look at how much of the voting bloc they were in 2008. Thirty percent in these states. Imagine they go for Romney. And I don't care what poll you look at, that group is not part of the demographic breakout.

RUSH: One of the things about the evangelicals: They don't talk to pollsters. They don't talk to them. Go back to 2008. One of the reasons that McCain chose Palin was because the evangelical vote didn't want anything to do with McCain.

They tried to rally the evangelical vote with the election is of Palin. It didn't quite work. They didn't vote in 2008. A lot of people just didn't vote. Now, this is why the selection of Paul Ryan was inspired. Ryan is... I mean, he's clean and pure as the wind-driven snow and he means it. He's just... He's a good boy. He's a good boy, and he inspires confidence. “We can do this! We can do this!” meaning, fix this problem.

(interruption) Well, no, I know they don't talk to... (interruption) I'll tell you: If you don't believe me, you go talk to anybody in the Bush 41 campaign team in 1988. That’s 1988, not '92. Go back 1988. Bush 41 lost Iowa because of the evangelical vote, and they didn't know it until afterwards. It helped them eventually, ‘cause Iowa was up there near the top.

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2010; 2012; democraticparty; drivebys; evangelicals; msm; polls; republicanparty; rushlimbaugh; teaparty; valuesvoters
The Democrats are ignoring the 2010 mid-term election along with the MSM. They don't pay attention to the Values Voters. They are never counted in MSM polls. They form 25-30% of the electorate and both Democrats and Republicans treat them with contempt. And you know - there is this view that these people really don't count in any one's political calculations and that's why the polls are so off! I have a feeling there is more to this than we're being told. We'll find out the truth on Tuesday night and it might stand to shock a lot of people! In other words, this election might just be a lot closer to 2010 than any one right now imagines. And you're not going to learn about that from the MSM, which is reliving 2008 all over again.
1 posted on 11/01/2012 1:45:31 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

They’re trying to re-create what happened in 2008 without considering what happened in 2010...

Amen!...At their own peril!...They will be slaughtered!

2 posted on 11/01/2012 1:50:39 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: goldstategop

It will be An Epic Election of Chick-Fil-A Proportions

3 posted on 11/01/2012 2:20:01 PM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
in 2008 the Democrats got out 10 million more voters than did the Republicans.

In 2010 the Democrats got out 30 million fewer voters than they did in 2008.

In 2010 the Republicans got out 15 million fewer voters than they did in 2008.

In 2006 ~ which is comparable to 2008, the Republicans lost the House to the Democrats over the issue of sexual deviancy and deviates in the Republican party.

In 2012 Romney's first appointment of a foreign policy spokesman/analyst almost lost the election for everybody because that spokesman was an outspoken homosexual fanatic.

Those 24 million 'values voters' can control every election if they want to. The Democrats don't want them to control any election so they'll do anything they can, including cross over into Republican primaries to vote for unacceptable candidates, to convince the 'values voters' to stay away.

Although it looks like the voting public has a double standard when it comes to holding Republicans and Democrats accountable for sexual misbehavior or misjudgment, the cold hard facts are the Democrat voters have a single standard and they simply don't care what anybody does. The Republicans have a large number of 'values voters' and they hold Republicans accountable by NOT VOTING FOR THEM. Doesn't mean they turn around and vote for the Democrats, but in 2006 they simply didn't show up and Nancy Polosi and her gang of geeks were put in charge of things.

The lesson is pretty clear ~ Republican candidates do not get a greater share of the vote by catering to homosexuals and their running dog lackeys. In fact, they lose Republican voters. The Democrats continue to vote for Democrats.

4 posted on 11/01/2012 2:29:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: goldstategop
For sure, the "Values Voters" are just one subset of the much larger set of "Voters who Wish the Nation to Survive this muslim/communist Attempt to Destroy the USA and Plunge Us All into The Abyss".

Everybody get out and vote!

For Want of a Nail

For want of a nail the shoe was lost.

For want of a shoe the horse was lost.

For want of a horse the rider was lost.

For want of a rider the message was lost.

For want of a message the battle was lost.

For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.

And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

5 posted on 11/01/2012 2:34:06 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: goldstategop

many I know have said they are also voting over marriage and homosexuals serving openly along wiht cross dressers and they are sick of the homosexual agenda.

It might be different around the country but down here in SC, GA, FL, AL, MS, NC and even my MIL and her friends up in MA have all said the same.

They are sick of the homosexual agenda and telling people to pay for womens condoms.
The elft really overstepped themselves with the cross dressing, homo and fight on women.
Women like my misses are so pissed off hearing the left harp on about how the republicans hate women because they don;t want others to pay for the lieks of fluke’s contraception

6 posted on 11/01/2012 2:41:15 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: muawiyah

you and I know this but the idiots in the GOP have still not understood it

7 posted on 11/01/2012 2:55:47 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

The GOP-e doesn’t understand it, and in fact CAN’T understand it. That’s why we need to separate their faction from the Republican party. They can seek succor in the arms of their Democrat lovers perhaps.

8 posted on 11/01/2012 3:00:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

totally agree.

Quick story of what just happened.
i;m in the store getting milk and a large black woman was there using two cards .
I cashier asked debit or credit to which the black woman replied EBT.
She got cash back and heard the cashier say her balance now as $142.

I went to my car with my son and wife and saw this black woman get in a 2012 nissan altima, nice car.
She then went to the liquor store to where my wife had gone.

I drove the car over for my wife and got out fo the car.
I then told my wife how I saw ablack woman using EBT, having a nice new car.

The black woman as she went by said” what is it go to do with you, mind your business”
I replied.
“First off I’m talking to my wife and secondly I pay for your food and now it seems your liquor”
She said it had nothing to do with me and told me to go back to the country I came from[I;m from England]
Mywife now said”that is racist and ignorant and he is home as this is his contry now”
She then told me again to go back and then called me a white racist cracker.

This is the crap we are dealing with today.
Millions of welfare folks who think the Govt should give them money and think they are owned something but I can honestly say that the racism and ignorance from some is stunning but the media will never report any of this and we face an up hill struggle trying to educate these ignorant people.

9 posted on 11/01/2012 5:48:23 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc
Always folks like that around. Then there's this black lady I know who spends every holiday and weekend working with a mission church in downtown DC helping the elderly and infirm people in the community go shopping at Aldi's grocery store out on US 1 near Fort Belvoir.

I found out about what she was doing with the youth groups at that same church way back when Lee Atwater was convincing so many of us to actually pay some attention to the poorest of the poor and do something about it on our own.

She's still at it ~ but she always did that ~ sometimes she'll be carrying a dozen EBT's in her purse ~ but the holders are right there picking out the best bargain in food in America.

I shop at Aldi myself.

10 posted on 11/01/2012 6:18:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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