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Aurora Shooter exhibits classic schizophrenia pattern
Vanity | July 20, 2012 | Prospero

Posted on 07/20/2012 3:43:35 PM PDT by Prospero

As a classic case of national hysteria slowly peaks, still within 24 hours after the massacre of theater-patrons attending a premier of the latest "Batman" thriller in Aurora, Colorado, it's become increasingly difficult to maintain a rational perspective.

Apparently without any shame whatsoever, an embattled White House still cannot hesitate to push itself out in front of the trickle of information coming out in the wake of these multiple murders.

That as many or more people will die in "random" shootings on the streets of major U.S. cities, Chicago in particular, on an average weekend, this July, still escapes the notice of our entertainment news-readers and other media.

Without any other obvious motive, however, and looking dispassionately for the most reasonable known pattern that fits the facts known at this hour about this massacre, and its lone perpetrator, I think it will eventually be determined that Mr. Holmes suffers from hereditary schizophrenia.

The vast majority of the organic types of that disease are males, often regarded as highly intelligent, and who rarely begin showing the first truly "full-blown" symptoms of such a disease until just prior to their 25th birthday.

Elaborate and fantastic delusions, resembling a nightmarish dream-state, that usually accompany the full, untreated symptoms of this very terrible disease are often so compelling, and build so slowly (and its sufferers often have such credibility or, in many cases, demonstrate such charisma) that loved ones and friends rarely catch on to their true state of mind until they disappear, or it is otherwise "too late."

Though the frightening episodes accompanying this disease very rarely strike such a responsive chord in national news cycles they are almost always devastating, inside a much smaller circle. Usually destroying families and friendships.

So far. at least, Mr. Holmes outrageous demonstration of the apparent symptoms of this disease, or another illness in the same family, still seems quite within a regular pattern, as horrific as that might seem to those who are unfamiliar with schizophrenia.

The reactions of the national news industry, in the immediate short term, and those of his victims, to this intrusion of the symptoms of a classic mental illness, is quite understandable.

Few are unfortunate enough to ever experience becoming drawn into the damaged circle of a schizophrenic's broken thinking, over our lifetimes.

This does not mean, however, that schizophrenia is unknown to law enforcement, competent political leadership, or the health establishment. Far from it.

For a White House, or the mayor of a large city elsewhere, to take such full and shameless political opportunity from a the short-term trauma and shock to the national peace and loss of perspective is nothing short of criminal.

As this president operates within his own diseased pattern of not allowing any tragedy to go to waste, over the course of the next few hours, before the situation elsewhere, likely Syria, distracts his fawning, ignorant fan base in the national media, keep these thoughts in mind.


TOPICS: FReeper Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aurora; braking; chat; colorado; jamesholmes; leftistmassmurder; mentalillness; partisanmediashills; psychiatry; schizophrenia; vanity
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To: Old Sarge

If only this young man had obamacare his mental illness would have been treated

The GOP obstructionist congress is to blame

and George Bush

and Rush Limbaugh

and maybe Sarah Palin, too


41 posted on 07/20/2012 4:30:11 PM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: gwgn02

Any evidence that this guy’s an OWS type? Not every nutcase is political. Some nutcases are just nutcases.


42 posted on 07/20/2012 4:32:05 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Jedidah
Because there are those here who deny the existence of mental illness. It’s already happened today, will again. Read some of the snarky comments on this thread.

I don't know of many people, if any, who deny the reality of mental illness.

The controversy is with how the justice system treats criminals who plead insanity, mental defect, etc.

Murderers like this one evade justice too often with a finding of "innocent due to insanity", or a similar worded finding.

The finding should be "guilty due to insanity" and the normal sentence for the crime carried out.


43 posted on 07/20/2012 4:32:18 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: Prospero
The problem with the mental illness angle is that it seems to be the excuse for everything. True, there is such a thing as mental illness, but it gets thrown around a lot in murder cases. A good lawyer can say his client is mentally ill, the judge or jury is bamboozled, and we the taxpayers get to feed, clothe and house the SOB for the rest of his life.

Many years ago, a dear friend was murdered by a student in her English as a Second Language class. Thanks to that mental illness defense, the guy is now in a prison mental health unit. But he's laughing his butt off. He bragged to a relative that he has it made...doesn't have to do anything for himself, just watches tv all day, while the taxpayers support him. Someday I hope that another inmate will someday rid us of this worthless POS.

44 posted on 07/20/2012 4:34:05 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Prospero
The problem with the mental illness angle is that it seems to be the excuse for everything. True, there is such a thing as mental illness, but it gets thrown around a lot in murder cases. A good lawyer can say his client is mentally ill, the judge or jury is bamboozled, and we the taxpayers get to feed, clothe and house the SOB for the rest of his life.

Many years ago, a dear friend was murdered by a student in her English as a Second Language class. Thanks to that mental illness defense, the guy is now in a prison mental health unit. But he's laughing his butt off. He bragged to a relative that he has it made...doesn't have to do anything for himself, just watches tv all day, while the taxpayers support him. Someday I hope that another inmate will someday rid us of this worthless POS.

45 posted on 07/20/2012 4:34:24 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Jedidah

Amen

You have been through this

Once your kid is 18 you can’t even see his medical records or talk to his doctors without his permission, heck you can’t even see his school attendance and grades

You know he is aticking human time bomb and there is nothing anyone can say or do unless he goes off

God Bless


46 posted on 07/20/2012 4:34:24 PM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: Iron Munro
The finding should be "guilty due to insanity" and the normal sentence for the crime carried out.

I agree.

47 posted on 07/20/2012 4:34:39 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Always wise to apply Occam’s Razor.


48 posted on 07/20/2012 4:34:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: dfwgator

Damn....wish I’d thought of that!..............


49 posted on 07/20/2012 4:36:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Prospero

I have to admit that when I saw the first picture of the guy today released by the press that my first thought was, “this guy looks like someone you would have seen at one of the occupy protests.”

Told my wife the same as she showed me the pic on her cell phpne as we were driving to Monticello today.

I wonder if he actually attended any?

If he did, you will never here it from the MSM. Blogosphere, talk radio, or Fox would have to dig it up.


50 posted on 07/20/2012 4:36:17 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Iron Munro

Some states it is “guilty but insane”. Of course the punchline to the whole thing is that whether the insane verdict include the word guilty or innocent doesn’t change what happens to the person, they still go in the nuthouse usually for longer than a “standard” 20 to life verdict will put you in jail. Read an article in the 80s from a criminal defender about how defense attorneys were doing their clients a disservice by using the insanity plea because it usually resulted in longer incarceration, but because it included the word “innocent” the attorneys consider it a win.


51 posted on 07/20/2012 4:38:30 PM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: dfwgator

Schizophrenia is NOT split personality. I know, my son was diagnosed with this very serious brain disorder in 2006. And 99.999% of people with Schizoprehnia are not psychopathic killers - but they are the ones’ who get all the attention.


52 posted on 07/20/2012 4:39:29 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Any evidence that this guy’s an OWS type? Not every nutcase is political. Some nutcases are just nutcases.

No evidence that I can see. The shooter's black protective clothing puts people in mind of OWS "black bloc" protests, and somebody says they saw him at an Occupy Denver rally, but so far that's all in the category of speculation and rumor.

53 posted on 07/20/2012 4:40:19 PM PDT by x
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To: Prospero

We don’t even know this guy and you proclaim him Schizo? Nothing like prescribing before analyzing, eh, doc?


54 posted on 07/20/2012 4:46:36 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: Prospero

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9214015


55 posted on 07/20/2012 4:46:56 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: Talisker
It definitely hasn't escaped my notice that the Small Arms treaty, and the general and urgent agenda of the present criminal administration, can all be served by the rabid and rapid exploitation of this massacre. The apparent anti-Jacobin message of the motion picture itself was already becoming a problem for the White House occupiers.

I'm not a big fan of mind-control scenarios but I'm also not ruling such a possibility.

Ceaseless hustling and hysteria are definite tactics of the Junta, and the whole incident seems way too convenient in serving that agenda, controlling the news cycle.

All that's within my own practical realm of real power, however, is controlling my own reaction to these events, to see their exploitation of the tragedy and pointing that out, regardless of what the motivation of the actual shooter.

I will admit that the level of organization, also does not fit the pattern of most schizophrenics. Though his being apparently lucid and normal before "going on vacation" from his meds does fit that pattern in many cases, especially among the very intelligent schizophrenics, and especially at early onset among many young adult males. I do know this fit the pattern of at least two such "patients" in my own experience.

One of these could have built a flying saucer, before becoming completely symptomatic, and sold tickets.

If not the Junta, certainly the devil, offered aid and assistance. The latter's agenda was equally well-served by this Joker's actions.

Time to re-read Paul's letter to the Ephesians.

56 posted on 07/20/2012 4:50:35 PM PDT by Prospero
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To: SCalGal
"My daughter is schitzophrenic. Getting help is difficult and very expensive - and that's if you're willing and able to pay for it. Keeping them medicated when they don't want to be is impossible - and the medication isn't a cure. It just makes the voices a lot quieter - the patient is still mentally ill, although perhaps functional."

My son was diagnosed with this terrible brain disorder in 2006. I wish he had cancer - then he would get understanding and compassion, but alas the ignorance in the world about mental illness is such that the stigma of these illnesses is almost unbearable. (I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir).

I am the director for my state for a program called "Family to Family", conducted by the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI). Family to Family is a 12-week intensive education course, taught by trained family members, to educate families with ill loved ones. The program was a life saver for our family, which is why I eventually became a teacher and now the state director. Go here:

Family to Family

If you have not already taken F2F, I would stringly urge you to see if there is a NAMI affiliate in your area that offers the course.

57 posted on 07/20/2012 4:51:02 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!)
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To: JaguarXKE
I am the director for my state for a program called "Family to Family", conducted by the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI). Family to Family is a 12-week intensive education course, taught by trained family members, to educate families with ill loved ones. The program was a life saver for our family, which is why I eventually became a teacher and now the state director. Go here:

Thanks, I'll look at it. It started when she was 14. She's 29 now and living who-knows-where. It did lead me into teaching special education. There was no help nearby that I could get to without a babysitter - and, trust me, no one wanted to watch her and I was exhausted.

58 posted on 07/20/2012 4:57:15 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: CodeToad
We don’t even know this guy and you proclaim him Schizo? Nothing like prescribing before analyzing, eh, doc?

Didn't make any proclamation, one way or another, except with regard to the criminal exploitation of this tragedy by the regime and its allies, and to compare the reaction of our national news readers to these murders with their non-reaction to the weekend murder rates in Chicago, for example.

59 posted on 07/20/2012 4:59:30 PM PDT by Prospero
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To: Prospero
I'm thinking more along the lines of Schizotypal personality disorder.
60 posted on 07/20/2012 5:09:32 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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