Posted on 07/20/2012 3:43:35 PM PDT by Prospero
If only this young man had obamacare his mental illness would have been treated
The GOP obstructionist congress is to blame
and George Bush
and Rush Limbaugh
and maybe Sarah Palin, too
Any evidence that this guy’s an OWS type? Not every nutcase is political. Some nutcases are just nutcases.
I don't know of many people, if any, who deny the reality of mental illness.
The controversy is with how the justice system treats criminals who plead insanity, mental defect, etc.
Murderers like this one evade justice too often with a finding of "innocent due to insanity", or a similar worded finding.
The finding should be "guilty due to insanity" and the normal sentence for the crime carried out.
Many years ago, a dear friend was murdered by a student in her English as a Second Language class. Thanks to that mental illness defense, the guy is now in a prison mental health unit. But he's laughing his butt off. He bragged to a relative that he has it made...doesn't have to do anything for himself, just watches tv all day, while the taxpayers support him. Someday I hope that another inmate will someday rid us of this worthless POS.
Many years ago, a dear friend was murdered by a student in her English as a Second Language class. Thanks to that mental illness defense, the guy is now in a prison mental health unit. But he's laughing his butt off. He bragged to a relative that he has it made...doesn't have to do anything for himself, just watches tv all day, while the taxpayers support him. Someday I hope that another inmate will someday rid us of this worthless POS.
Amen
You have been through this
Once your kid is 18 you can’t even see his medical records or talk to his doctors without his permission, heck you can’t even see his school attendance and grades
You know he is aticking human time bomb and there is nothing anyone can say or do unless he goes off
God Bless
I agree.
Always wise to apply Occam’s Razor.
Damn....wish I’d thought of that!..............
I have to admit that when I saw the first picture of the guy today released by the press that my first thought was, “this guy looks like someone you would have seen at one of the occupy protests.”
Told my wife the same as she showed me the pic on her cell phpne as we were driving to Monticello today.
I wonder if he actually attended any?
If he did, you will never here it from the MSM. Blogosphere, talk radio, or Fox would have to dig it up.
Some states it is “guilty but insane”. Of course the punchline to the whole thing is that whether the insane verdict include the word guilty or innocent doesn’t change what happens to the person, they still go in the nuthouse usually for longer than a “standard” 20 to life verdict will put you in jail. Read an article in the 80s from a criminal defender about how defense attorneys were doing their clients a disservice by using the insanity plea because it usually resulted in longer incarceration, but because it included the word “innocent” the attorneys consider it a win.
Schizophrenia is NOT split personality. I know, my son was diagnosed with this very serious brain disorder in 2006. And 99.999% of people with Schizoprehnia are not psychopathic killers - but they are the ones’ who get all the attention.
No evidence that I can see. The shooter's black protective clothing puts people in mind of OWS "black bloc" protests, and somebody says they saw him at an Occupy Denver rally, but so far that's all in the category of speculation and rumor.
We don’t even know this guy and you proclaim him Schizo? Nothing like prescribing before analyzing, eh, doc?
I'm not a big fan of mind-control scenarios but I'm also not ruling such a possibility.
Ceaseless hustling and hysteria are definite tactics of the Junta, and the whole incident seems way too convenient in serving that agenda, controlling the news cycle.
All that's within my own practical realm of real power, however, is controlling my own reaction to these events, to see their exploitation of the tragedy and pointing that out, regardless of what the motivation of the actual shooter.
I will admit that the level of organization, also does not fit the pattern of most schizophrenics. Though his being apparently lucid and normal before "going on vacation" from his meds does fit that pattern in many cases, especially among the very intelligent schizophrenics, and especially at early onset among many young adult males. I do know this fit the pattern of at least two such "patients" in my own experience.
One of these could have built a flying saucer, before becoming completely symptomatic, and sold tickets.
If not the Junta, certainly the devil, offered aid and assistance. The latter's agenda was equally well-served by this Joker's actions.
Time to re-read Paul's letter to the Ephesians.
My son was diagnosed with this terrible brain disorder in 2006. I wish he had cancer - then he would get understanding and compassion, but alas the ignorance in the world about mental illness is such that the stigma of these illnesses is almost unbearable. (I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir).
I am the director for my state for a program called "Family to Family", conducted by the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI). Family to Family is a 12-week intensive education course, taught by trained family members, to educate families with ill loved ones. The program was a life saver for our family, which is why I eventually became a teacher and now the state director. Go here:
If you have not already taken F2F, I would stringly urge you to see if there is a NAMI affiliate in your area that offers the course.
Thanks, I'll look at it. It started when she was 14. She's 29 now and living who-knows-where. It did lead me into teaching special education. There was no help nearby that I could get to without a babysitter - and, trust me, no one wanted to watch her and I was exhausted.
Didn't make any proclamation, one way or another, except with regard to the criminal exploitation of this tragedy by the regime and its allies, and to compare the reaction of our national news readers to these murders with their non-reaction to the weekend murder rates in Chicago, for example.
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