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White supremacists arrested on 'race war' charges in Florida
The Chicago Tribune / The Los Angeles Times ^ | May 8, 2012 | Richard Fausset

Posted on 05/08/2012 1:27:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Law enforcement officials in central Florida have been rounding up members of a white supremacist group who were allegedly training with weapons at a rural Osceola County compound. The training was reportedly in preparation for a coming "race war."

The group was also planning a "disturbance" at Orlando City Hall to recruit new members, according to court documents.

The arrests of the 10 alleged members of the neo-Nazi skinhead group American Front, or AF, came after a confidential informant infiltrated its Osceola County chapter and shared information about the group's plans with state investigators.

The arrests serve as one of numerous reminders of the efforts of law enforcement to monitor, and sometimes crack down on, the militia and hate groups whose numbers have ticked up since the election of President Obama.

In Alaska on Monday, a 12-member jury was selected in the trial of three militia members who are accused of planning to kill judges and police, according to the Anchorage Daily News. In Georgia on Tuesday, two militia members who had allegedly planned to attack government workers and buildings attended a pretrial hearing after two of their alleged conspirators agreed to cooperate with federal prosecutors, according to the Associated Press.

Seven of the arrests in Florida occurred over the weekend, with three more suspects arrested Monday, according to court documents and a statement from the office of Lawson Lamar, the state attorney based in Orlando.

Each of the seven, including the apparent ringleader, Marcus Faella, 41, faces state felony charges of attempting to shoot into an occupied dwelling, evidence of prejudice while committing a crime, and violation of a state "paramilitary training" statute....

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: astroturf; fibbieclownshow; lmm; obama; racewar; racism
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Any Black Panthers in jail for putting a million dollar bounty on George Zimmerman's head?
1 posted on 05/08/2012 1:27:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Beat me to it.

These “neonazis” are scumbags, but I don’t want to hear ANYTHING about “white racists” until some sort of equal application of the law exists when it comes to the NBPs.


2 posted on 05/08/2012 1:31:57 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What's a "paramilitary training" statute?

Anything they say it is? The Wild and Free Pigs of the Okefenokee Swamp, indeed...

3 posted on 05/08/2012 1:35:21 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who is kookier? Race gangs, or the authorities?

One group drives dented cars —the other doesn’t.


4 posted on 05/08/2012 1:36:24 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This must be the Florida "Hutaree".

I'm kind of bummed, to tell the truth. The federal prosecutors and the FBI will now be too busy with this to investigate the couple of billion dollars that Jon Corzine stole. And they were JUST getting ready to, and all....

5 posted on 05/08/2012 1:38:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

“What’s a “paramilitary training” statute?”

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The grounds on which they will one day, round up all of us evil, white Christian preppers.


6 posted on 05/08/2012 1:40:10 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m with you, 2DV. Where are the Black Panther arrests?


7 posted on 05/08/2012 1:48:16 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Note that this is a "Florida-story" being reported in the Chicago Tribune. What do you want to bet that the Obama Whitehouse sent a Fax?
8 posted on 05/08/2012 1:49:38 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d as soon not live around these folks since, if they had their druthers, they’d shoot me and my wife. The same could be said for the NBPP but no one seems much interested in them.


9 posted on 05/08/2012 1:52:14 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

No one wants to see this. Everyone has friends/family/other. Blacks putting a bounty on Zimmerman in Florida (the State in question) is perfectly fine however. Justify that please.


10 posted on 05/08/2012 1:57:50 PM PDT by allmost
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To: EyeGuy
I'm patiently awaiting their attempt to "come and round up" me or mine...

...can you say "epic"?

I knew you could.

;^\

11 posted on 05/08/2012 1:58:18 PM PDT by Gargantua ("All men ARE 'created' equal--but 21 years later... well, 'nuff said...")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t forget LaRaza.


12 posted on 05/08/2012 2:00:21 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The group was also planning a "disturbance" at Orlando City Hall to recruit new members, according to court documents.

Ummm...this has been going on nationwide for a year now. A great many groups are planning, have planned, have executed "disturbances" in major cities. No one seems to be fretting over that. Is it because they are just a bunch of dirty hippies that don't have.......EEEEEK! ... guns?!!!

13 posted on 05/08/2012 2:02:40 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

evidence of prejudice while committing a crime

You know this isn’t going to stop here.

Everyone who robs some one is prejudiced
against the other person cause they have
money and the robber doesn’t.

Gona git me some MONEY.


14 posted on 05/08/2012 2:02:47 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Gargantua

When was the last time you were accosted due to your ethnicity?


15 posted on 05/08/2012 2:03:14 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost
"When was the last time you were accosted due to your ethnicity?"

EVERY year, on April 15.

16 posted on 05/08/2012 2:07:16 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: traditional1
Yes the tax laws are racist. Numbers hate. Females and minorities hardest hit as usual. White males are just coasting on their lovely racist pillow. Give me a f***ing break. Open your eyes, grow up, learn to think. Any of them work.
17 posted on 05/08/2012 2:12:31 PM PDT by allmost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What were they charged with?


18 posted on 05/08/2012 2:13:18 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: MrB

You’ll hear about white racists every week until the election, in an attempt to garner support for our non-African-American mulatto.

If yesterday was an underwear terror plot, and today was a white racist plot, what will tomorrow be? Gender gap lawsuit in a big firm?

Obama’s media is the bread & circuses of truly stupid, dependent sheeple.


19 posted on 05/08/2012 2:16:48 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: SaraJohnson

Don’t forget LaRaza.

Don’t forget Obama/Holder/loony left who have been pushing the racial cold war from a postision of high authority.


20 posted on 05/08/2012 2:22:59 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: allmost

“When was the last time you were accosted due to your ethnicity?”

About 2 months ago. I was filling up my rental car for return to Hertz at Hobby Airport in Houston.

A crappy American sedan, with a black boy driving and a black boy leaning out the back window skidded up, the boy in the back threw a red slurpee at me, soaking me, while they screammed “f——g Jeoooooo” and peeled off.

It was great going though security covered in red sticky crap.


21 posted on 05/08/2012 2:24:39 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

didn’t the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam also call for a bloody race war?


22 posted on 05/08/2012 2:27:01 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Louis Farakhan in jail for sedition and treason.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson in jail for inciting a riot.


23 posted on 05/08/2012 2:27:33 PM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: kiryandil
790.29 Paramilitary training; teaching or participation prohibited.— (1) This act shall be known and may be cited as the “State Antiparamilitary Training Act.” (2) As used in this section, the term “civil disorder” means a public disturbance involving acts of violence by an assemblage of three or more persons, which disturbance causes an immediate danger of, or results in, damage or injury to the property or person of any other individual within the United States. (3)(a) Whoever teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, destructive device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that the same will be unlawfully employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder within the United States, is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. (b) Whoever assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, destructive device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to unlawfully employ the same for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder within the United States, is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. (4) Nothing contained in this section shall be construed to prohibit any act of a law enforcement officer which is performed in connection with the lawful performance of his or her official duties or to prohibit the training or teaching of the use of weapons to be used for hunting, recreation, competition, self-defense or the protection of one’s person or property, or other lawful use. History.—s. 1, ch. 82-5; s. 164, ch. 83-216; s. 1220, ch. 97-102.
24 posted on 05/08/2012 2:27:34 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

I wasn’t asking you, but your response sounds about right. I take it your not an Ethiopian offshoot Jew:)


25 posted on 05/08/2012 2:29:34 PM PDT by allmost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Any Black Panthers in jail for putting a million dollar bounty on George Zimmerman's head?

1. Wrong color. 2. Protected class

26 posted on 05/08/2012 2:31:39 PM PDT by Sarajevo (http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
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To: Little Ray

What were they charged with?

“...preparation for a coming “race war.” Apparently that is a crime?
Doesn’t matter arrest were made and thats what really matters. It will make all the headline news and MSNBC.

I’m guessing all charges will be dropped. However, that won’t make the news or if it does page 15.
mission accomplished.


27 posted on 05/08/2012 2:35:15 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a slippery slope. A private spot of land with some gun range targets on it can become a “para-military compound.” Idle, frustrated chatter on websites or in email can become a “plot to [fill in the blank].” The “inside informant” may be a felon offered a sweet deal - but only if he returns information about nefarious activities being planned by the target group.

This is scary stuff. Add in a headline seeking, wanna-be-a-politician DA, the Holder FBI and/or an aggressive or paranoid sheriff who may be up for re-election and any of us could be caught up and accused of terrorists activities.


28 posted on 05/08/2012 2:37:55 PM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:arab spring,banks,big oil,bush,ceos,christians,coal,FNC,Jpn tsumani,T Party,wall st,you)
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To: allmost

Nope, 100% Ashkenazi, beard, kippot, etc.

Houston is a sh-thole. I hope to never go there again.


29 posted on 05/08/2012 2:38:09 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Meanwhile, MSM INCITERS of race war go free.


30 posted on 05/08/2012 2:45:19 PM PDT by Califreak ( Vote For Pedro!)
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To: Tallguy

Fax or e-mail would leave a trail. Probably a deniable phone call.


31 posted on 05/08/2012 2:47:34 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (God is dead - William Hamilton....William Hamilton is dead - God (And he means it))
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To: Jewbacca

Do you kick ass in chess?


32 posted on 05/08/2012 2:47:54 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

Nope, 100% Ashkenazi, beard, kippot, etc.

Houston is a sh-thole. I hope to never go there again.


33 posted on 05/08/2012 2:50:08 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: allmost

Not particularly.

Then again, I’ve never really played it.


34 posted on 05/08/2012 2:53:08 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The training was reportedly in preparation for a coming 'race war.'"

You cannot prepare for Obama's race war, unless you are on the right side.

35 posted on 05/08/2012 2:54:27 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t doubt that the informant was wired or they have communication, but how in the hell do you attempt to shoot into an occupied dwelling if a shot was never fired and they weren’t in the vicinity of the targeted dwelling??


36 posted on 05/08/2012 2:54:27 PM PDT by goseminoles
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The training was reportedly in preparation for a coming "race war."

However, this is just dandy....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2863852/posts

The New Black Panther Party is calling for a militia of 5,000 black volunteers to capture Trayvon's killer, George Zimmerman, who's in hiding. The small group has posted flyers calling for his capture "dead or alive." That's in addition to the $10,000 bounty the group is offering for Zimmerman's capture.

Yeah, no problem with that at all, huh?

The group was also planning a "disturbance" at Orlando City Hall to recruit new members, according to court documents.

Yep. A "disturbance." Haul their cracker racist butts to JAIL damnit! .a href=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2863852/posts

37 posted on 05/08/2012 2:58:33 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Tallguy

Note that this is a “Florida-story” being reported in the Chicago Tribune


But how do the few sentences about alaska fit in the story?


38 posted on 05/08/2012 2:59:02 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.)
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To: Jewbacca
Stay safe. Avoid the criminal element if you can. Slurpy stains sounds like a good ending IMO.
39 posted on 05/08/2012 2:59:52 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The way the article reads to me, no crimes were committed. Thought about, talked about, went out and practiced with weapons..blah..blah. What exactly did they DO?I guess the law is now whatever someone wants it to be.


40 posted on 05/08/2012 3:07:48 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Jewbacca

what the heck?!?

where is THAT a law?

That is the most unconstitutional garbage I have ever read.


41 posted on 05/08/2012 3:07:56 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009

And I am still trying to figure out how you attempt to shoot into a occupied dwelling. Either you shoot into it, or you DO NOT shoot into it. ????


42 posted on 05/08/2012 3:12:19 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Quickgun
Thought about, talked about, went out and practiced with weapons..blah..blah. What exactly did they DO? I guess the law is now whatever someone wants it to be.

Apparently so.

This drew no attention whatsoever...

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43 posted on 05/08/2012 3:20:09 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It will be interesting to see what the real story is or if this is just another Hutaree setup of some idiots that like to talk big. You’d think that any group of guys that were doing this would know that there are a ton of FBI and state undercover operatives just looking to get in and push these types over the legal line so that they can get the big headlines and look like hero’s for the day. Even if at the end they get let off it will take a few years sitting in jail with no bail before they do.

There certainly are a lot of them though, the 5 in Ohio that they gave a fake bomb to blow up a bridge is another one, all white and apparently part of the occupy crowd. What a bunch of idiots, ya sure that friendly older gentleman offering you a bomb is NOT a federal agent! Those guys deserve 20 years in jail just for being total communist idiots.


44 posted on 05/08/2012 3:23:54 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, I’m all for keeping tight reins on the white supremicists. Now let’s also go after the New Black Panthers and La Raza.


45 posted on 05/08/2012 3:27:27 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Jewbacca

What happpened to our Constitutional right to form a well-ordered militia?


46 posted on 05/08/2012 3:34:47 PM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...who were allegedly training with weapons at a rural Osceola County compound.

Is that a euphemism for 'they were allegedly shooting guns on a private gun range?'

Neo-nazis are scum but I don't see the part about publically announcing a dead-or-alive reward on someone's head. I don't see anything about standing outside a polling place with billy clubs either. Did I miss the part where they Tweeted someone's home address and said go kill the people who live there?

I think this article is more propaganda from the Lynch Mob Media.

47 posted on 05/08/2012 3:35:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Florida.

If you read carefully, it requires an intent to plan an attack/disturbance, not merely training.

I am not sure why conspiracy with intent to commit (insert crime) does not already cover this.


48 posted on 05/08/2012 3:43:12 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

How often do you get anti-Semitic comments?


49 posted on 05/08/2012 3:45:51 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: Jewbacca

How often do you get anti-Semitic comments?


50 posted on 05/08/2012 3:47:21 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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