Obama’s Outrageous DOL Rules Will Restrict Minors From Working on Family Farms – Killing Farm Life

gateway ^ | March 21, 2012, | Jim Hoft

[george76]

Barack Obama is committed to killing off the family farm – an American tradition.

For generations children and adults have worked together on the family farm. Those days are over.

Senators John Thune (R-S.D.) and Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) today introduced the Preserving America’s Family Farm Act, to prevent the Department of Labor (DOL) from enacting its controversial proposed restrictions that would ban children from working on family farms.

Senator Thune spoke out against the Obama Administration’s proposed labor rules for youth who work on farms and ranches on the Senate floor.

The Obama Administration’s rules are so strict they would restrict minors from handling most animals and even from using battery-powered screwdrivers.

[george76]

full title.

Obama’s Outrageous DOL Rules Will Restrict Minors From Working on Family Farms – Killing Farm Life As We Know It

[george76]

If the federal government can regulate the relationship between parents and their children on their own family’s farm, there is virtually nothing off limits when it comes to government intrusion into our lives

[1_Rain_Drop]

Zero is only trying to create shovel ready jobs. What easier way is there to do it? You have to figure that those children are stealing jobs from ________.

[FormerACLUmember]

The communists in power continue their coordinated assault on the hated middle class.

[sport]

That was what they were designed to do: Kill farm life as we know it.

For that matter, obama was put in office for the sole purpose of destroying the United States as it now is. And at this, he has been 100% successful.

[RedCell]

I had to read the last line of your excerpt twice to make sure it didn’t say something about farm animals using power tools.

Anyway, when I was a growing up a lot of the “minors” would go work the tobacco fields in the summer here in CT. Wicked hard work but the pay wasn’t too bad. I don’t know if they still do that but if the can’t employ the kids to do it, what’s the alternative? Illegal farm hands? Maybe that’s what the boob is after.

[PGR88]

Its really an assault on food production.

Scarce farm labor will already be made even more scarce. Who will it benefit? Illegals? It certainly won’t increase production of food products.

I used to read about the Ag. policies of the Soviet Union and China and naively think, “how could they be so stupid?” I realized only much later that their policies weren’t about production or efficiency, it was about control and politics.

Obama is no different.

[Smokin' Joe]

I worked on my grandfather's tobacco farm from the time I could do something useful...As I got older, baled hay fro my great uncle, and being permitted to operate equipment was a rite of passage which not only gave us incentive to be responsible youngsters, but taught us valuable skills which have proven useful since in other fields.

Not to mention instilling a work ethic, that generally, the more you did, the greater the reward...as well as ultimately a dependence on Divine Providence.

Is 'Hand me the 9/16 wrench.' going to become a crime instead of an opportunity to teach fractions?

[Aria]

I have never been able to find the quote again but I’m sure I read somewhere that Stalin said that when the people get hungry enough they’ll take anything you give them.

I think that’s exactly where Obama wants us - hungry and begging him. The man is a monster.

[Terry Mross]

And what does the “opposition” party do? They introduce legislation to overturn it. Yeah, that’s gonna’ work.

The reason the government is doing this is so the farmers will have to hire more Mexicans. This will force more farmers to sell and all the farm land will be owned by a few select corporations AND controlled by the government.

[madison10]

That law would have got me out of a ton of chores and would have taught me to be a freakin’ lazy butt. (not that I’m overly ambitious, but at least I work. LOL)

[Kickass Conservative]

In a related story, Obama said it's OK for the Amish to kill Bald Eagles. The rub is that they can only kill them with their bare hands.

[onedoug]

Screw the DOL.

[himno hero]

... add in the effects of his energy policy.

This sill squeeze marginal farmers even more. For the larger operators, the costs get passed on... as inflation marches on.

[Terry Mross]

“I just thought I’d mention
my grandma’s old age pension
is the reason why I’m standin’ here today.

I got all my country learnin’
milkin’ and a churnin’,
pickin’ cotton, raisin’ hell and bailin’ hay.”

“Fast Train to Georgia” by Billy Joe Shaver

[FormerACLUmember]

"The Obama Administration’s rules are so strict they would restrict minors from handling most animals and even from using battery-powered screwdrivers."

Every tiny detail in the democrat party's plans for America's destruction is carefully constructed.

[Razzz42]

[hapnHal]

A famous quote... revised

Deliver us from EVIL....

revised...

Deliver us from OBAMA!

[Graewoulf]

The drumbeat of Dictator Baby-Doc Barack now is heard on our farms - - - .

Regulate -— Control -— Destroy -—

[oceanagirl]

I think that the main reason is to replace children/teens and young relatives as farm workers with immigrants, legal and illegal, who will eventually become citizens and democratic voters or who will produce U.S. born children who will do the same job.

I personally made summer spending money picking fruit in the orchards of neighbors. I have never seen any kind of really bad accident even when we were using what would now be seen as unsafe 12 foot ladders to get those last cherries.

With this administration, it is always about politics, and its politics includes forming a permanent dem majority—that can't be done by any other method.

[Graewoulf]

It is time to abolish the Department of Labor (DOL).

BTW, what are the other 3 departments?

[Wisconsinlady]

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[Dr.Deth]

If the federal government can regulate the relationship between parents and their children on their own family’s farm, there is virtually nothing off limits when it comes to government intrusion into our lives

Why do you think they enacted "health care reform"

[Avid Coug]

Obama can’t have the last vestiges of American family farms get in the way of his collective farms manned by Democrat Party approved workers. Nothing like good ol’ Communist run farms to knock down food production and control the population’s food supply.

[D Rider]

It is worse than that. I do not know how many times I have come across those raised on farms or grew up working in family business. Hands down the bet workers/employees you can find.

[D Rider]

It is worse than that. I do not know how many times I have come across those raised on farms or grew up working in family business. Hands down the best workers/employees you can find.

[Carry_Okie]

If the federal government can regulate the relationship between parents and their children on their own family’s farm, there is virtually nothing off limits when it comes to government intrusion into our lives

They can't. They'll be happy with the damage they do until they're finally busted by the SCOTUS, ten to fifteen years from now. By then, most of the farmers will be toast. To get the rest, they'll tweak the rules just a bit to accomplish the same thing and force the farmers to sue again to stop them. Bureaucrats have plenty of your money with which to wait out their hosts.

[huldah1776]

So this means no kid has to do any home chores. Ever.

[NMCicero]

Absolutely insane. There’s really no other way to describe it. Someday Americans will wake up from their stupor and realize that the country they thought they lived in has vanished without a trace.

[crazyhorse691]

Obama and his handlers are all city born urbanites that consider hard work to be what you do when you go door to door asking for money to help organize the community. People outside the urban environment are just country hicks that need to be marginalized as racist hang overs.

[FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs]

AGENDA 21
No sense getting minors involved, right? Farming shall end with today's seniors because the 'farmer of tomorrow' is the GOVERNMENT. This is just ONE of the objectives of the U.N's 'Agenda 21'.

[nathanbedford]

There is evidently no end to the good that the federal government can do when we have achieved a proper understanding of the true scope of the Commerce Clause, even regulating the relationship between parent and child.

[saintgermaine]

The problem is not H.O. but the people who still think that he is the next best thing to sliced bread. Unfortunately more and more people who vote for a living outnumber the ones who work for a living and this does not bode well for our future.

[t1b8zs]

Illegal farm hands?

Get real

[JustaDumbBlonde]

Like we pay attention to what the government says we can and can’t do. My grandchildren will work on our family farm. The kids have since the early 1900’s and the tradition will continue. KMABO

[raybbr]

Like we pay attention to what the government says we can and can’t do. My grandchildren will work on our family farm. The kids have since the early 1900’s and the tradition will continue. KMABO

"Sorry, Ms. JustaDumbBlonde. Your insurance doesn't cover that accident your son had while driving the tractor. There is a clause in your policy that prohibits covering illegal activity. And, since your son is only 15 and therefore not, by law, allowed to drive the tractor... Well, we're sorry but you are going to have to pay the bill yourself."

[JustaDumbBlonde]

Your point is well taken, but suffering a bad injury by driving a tractor is almost unheard of ... in fact, the darn tractor drives itself with GPS and my son sits there relatively bored. Any injury by an implement can be explained as an everyday accident, no work involved.

[Hot Tabasco]

what’s the alternative?

Govt. owned and run farms as in communist countries......

The children would be in their govt. run schools, fast tracked in career directions according to their intelligence levels....

[9YearLurker]

This is a massive power play in favor of unions. The plan is to unionize every scrap of labor that has previously been done by farm family members.

[DH]

there is virtually nothing off limits when it comes to government intrusion into our lives

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We are already there. The government controls EVERYTHING you do now. The only thing left is for the government to make everyone DO the same thing as everyone else...Communism/Marxism. That will come after the next election cycle this year.

[From The Deer Stand]

All I can say is this is unbelievable, but coming from the Obama Administration it’s not surprising. Just another reason to get this batch of socialists out of Washington, D.C. in November.

[opentalk]

The small farmers are getting regulated from all sides. Especially small organic. FDA, EPA and now DOL.

Government attempt to control the food supply , add MIchelle Obama's talk of food deserts. They will look for a ways to control the supply and distribution in the name of justice, fairness or climate change

[elcid1970]

So..... will the feds be sending out spies with binoculars to smoke out underage farm workers? Will they?

[sport]

Ten to fifteen years from now, my FRiend, the SCOTUS will be comprised of obama appointees. If you believe that they will reverse any of obama’s edicts, you are living in a dream world.

[liberalh8ter]

Don't be surprised when they do. A family member of mine had some cows get loose late one night. They passed by his back door on their way toward the silage. He jumped in his truck and escorted them back to where they had broken the fence. Once across, he jumped out of his truck and proceeded to repair the fence by headlight. Suddenly, multiple sets of headlights came flying down his driveway - a back drive that privately led to the back side of his father's farm (the farms were adjoined). They arrested him for shining deer, confiscated his truck and his rifle which was in its holder in the back window of truck.

It took a year to get the charges dropped and several years to get his possessions back.

[tnlibertarian]

A famous quote... revised

I don't see the difference.

[wbill]

I worked on a number of farms as a kid. The most onerous thing I did was picking the dead chickens at a chicken farm.

Didn't do me a bit of harm. In fact, I now have skills that I'm sure all of the metrosexual, citified, neutered bunch of guys I work with wish they had.

Guy I work with recently just paid his lawnmowing service (pay to get your lawn mowed? but that's another story....) 100 bucks to trim a small embankment at his house.

Thinking that maybe his trimmer was broken, or he didn't have one, I offered to let him borrow mine. His reply? "Nah, mine is just fine. I just don't like to do it."

I've seen the "embankment" he had "trimmed". Might take me 15 minutes to do, if I worked slowly and had a hard time starting my trimmer up. Sez me, I'm in the wrong business.

And....I'm cringing at the thought of telling my uncle (who owned one of the farms I worked on) "Nah, I just don't feel like doing that incredibly simple task. Can I just give someone 100 dollars to do it for me?"

[thesearethetimes...]

BFL

[Nickname]

This is what it’s come to. Congress shovels money and “rule making” authority at the executive branch then walks away because they don’t want to be held accountable themselves. It’s easier to be defensive, act outraged and point fingers when what they’ve given away is abused.

[Lady Lucky]

Well, you know the expression, “There but for fortune...” The government has had the power, for many years already, to intervene, to come onto your property with the backing of a judge and the escort of a policeman, to inspect your property and question your parenting and take your child into custody. They now have a few more justifications if they need any, which they don’t.
All it really takes is one person with any comment at all against you. True or untrue. They just phone it to the child protection agency in your area and you are screwed.
Nobody in America is doing a blessed thing to fight this, as far as I can determine. Even judges I’ve discussed it with, are afraid of child protectors.