Posted on 03/21/2012 7:02:58 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
Rep. Cliff Stearns, a senior Republican investigating the White House’s Solyndra energy loan guarantee, told reporters today that he is still, despite all evidence to the contrary, not convinced that President Barack Obama’s birth certificate is valid.
“I am, shall we say, looking at all the evidence,” Stearns, R-Fla., said at the Capitol today, just weeks after he waded back into the debate during a town hall meeting with constituents last month.
Asked if he thinks the president’s birth certificate is authentic, Stearns suggested the issue is not settled for him personally yet, as first reported by the Hill and Roll Call. Before coming to a conclusion, Stearns says he is awaiting the results of another independent investigation by Maricopa County [Ariz.] Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who claims he has proof the birth certificate is a “computer-generated forgery.”
“We are just going to hold in abeyance a final decision until we hear [an outcome],” Stearns said. “Some of these people seem to have legitimate concerns, so I don’t think it is unreasonable just to see what they have to say.”
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/ariz-officials-revisit-obamas-birth-certificate-15923061
The words debunked are used but at least the coverage is simmering.
“Despite all evidence to the contrary”. I LOVE these guys!
All we have is one lousy congressman willing to even talk about it and this is all he will say? Anyone with any sense knows it's a fake. But this proof that the issue is going nowhere. This congressman and the rest of Congress can be described as 'useless' and 'hopeless', respectively.
He ergo has not filled out his I-9, and is unemployable!
Indonesian Go Home!
” - - - Stearns says he is awaiting the results of another independent investigation by Maricopa County [Ariz.] Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who claims he has proof the birth certificate is a “computer-generated forgery.”
Thanks for this update.
We've heard the unsubstantiated opinions of Obama supporters, nothing more.
I agree on both points.
Obama ia a pathetic, incompetent Marxist that has captured the imagination of the Democrats, the Liberal Agenda Media, and those who like good sounding speeches.
The result is a blithering idiot who has no objective supporters.
The key is to create doubt in the minds of his supporters.
I am in favor of a multi-pronged campaign on a variety of topics so defense eventually shows the weakness that can be pursued to maximum effect. (Similar to the way a pack of us Graewoulves weed out the weaklings in a herd).
Ping me if you would on this or other potential supporters of Arpaio’s pursuit of the truth.
Did the President of the United States and Harvard Law School graduate simply lose the original one, the one that his mother walked out with when she was discharged from Kapiolani Hospital a few days after supposedly giving birth to Obama in 1961?
Or, did the dog eat it?
Or, was it in such bad shape that Obama felt that he needed a new one?
If the original 1961 was in such bad condition, why not show that damaged copy to reporters at the April 27, 2011 press conference just before he showed the reporters the new copy?
If President Obama simply lost the birth certificate that he talks about in one of his books, then I wonder how long ago he lost it, because then Senator Obama ordered a short form certificate in June 2007.
Also, I'm wondering why President Obama ordered a short form in 2007 and then turned around 4 years later in April 2011 and ordered a long form birth certificate, because---I think it is safe to say---most people order a new birth certificate only when they lose the one they had.
That is, it looks to me like the President of the United States and Harvard Law School graduate, Obama, lost his Hawaii long form birth certificate before or during 2007, or else why would he find it necessary to order a less-detailed short form in June 2007 and a long, more-detailed form in April 2011?
I wonder if Obama is paying Joe a “special” visit sometime soon, after all he is out in the SW on a campaign trail.
So??.....ABC?....Where is this compelling evidence to the contrary? The forgeries? Internet images of newspaper baby announcements? Take that to the DMV and see how it gets you.
“I think Cliff Stearns does a good job with the chairmanship of his subcommittee,” Cantor told The Hill in the Capitol Wednesday. “He has my full confidence.”
Cantor was responding to a question about whether it's appropriate to have someone who has questioned Obama's birth certificate leading a probe of the White House.
This is a great sign because a top member of the GOP elite is breaking free from the Alinski-style eligibility-suppression efforts of Obots and GOP elite alike.
Shunning and banning is supposed to be visited on any person who utters sympathy for “birther” claims against Barry because “birthers” have been relentlessly equated with “racists” and “kooks.”
At a minimum Cantor has affirmed Stearns’ position of awaiting the results of Arpaio’s investigation as being a respectable position.
Nixon wasn't driven from office by a SCOTUS ruling or by indictment, but rather by the prospect of a future SCOTUS ruling and future indictment compounded by a conviction in the court of public opinion.
Arpaio’s little posse “snowball” could gather momentum rolling down hill and turn into an avalanche!
IMO the near total suppression of MSM coverage of the posse charges of fraud and forgery could be due to a secret presidential directive deeming eligibility challenges to be a “threat to national security in time of war” especially with the Iran situation about to blow up. Media outlets aiding and abetting eligibility challenges could be subject to having their broadcast licenses pulled and executives could be subject to arrest and detention in secret.
I wouldn't put it past Holder to draft something like that or past Barry to sign it, of course.
This is great! He digs his heels in on the Dennis Miller show!
[snip]
“I don’t know whether he is Kenyan or not,” Monckton said. “The point is that if I were you, I would want to make absolutely sure that he was born here before allowing him to be elected. And the birth certificate that he put up on that website, I don’t know where he was born. But I do know that birth certificate isn’t genuine.”
This is great! He digs his heels in on the Dennis Miller show!
[snip]
“I don’t know whether he is Kenyan or not,” Monckton said. “The point is that if I were you, I would want to make absolutely sure that he was born here before allowing him to be elected. And the birth certificate that he put up on that website, I don’t know where he was born. But I do know that birth certificate isn’t genuine.”
Look at it as one more small crack in the dike. Even small cracks with the force of so much water behind them mean it going to break.
I think it is proof the dam is cracking.
Pray for Sheriff Joe and his posse, but also pray for Cantor.
Cracking? LOL. Because after four years one congressman leaned up against the dam and said he is pondering his navel?
watch out for those rolling snowballs....and stones
The following quote from Here: "New Evidence submitted by Orly Taitz includes a copy of the government’ s E-Verify System’s rejection of Barack Obama’s Connecticut Social Security number that he uses. Included is the sworn affidavit of Ms. Linda Jordan who went to E-Verify and submitted Barack Obama’s name. She requested verification of his status and eligibility to legally work in the U.S. Barack Obama failed the simple government test. According to the government’s own system Barack Obama does not qualify to legally hold a job in the U.S."
So, we have a SS number and SS application that are fraudulent and a forgery. We also have a fake, fraudulent, forged copy of a birth certificate. Are not fraud and forgery felonies? Do we have a felonious illegal alien in the White House? This is a serious academic question.
Can someone please explain why the SS number can't pass E-Verify? Sheriff Joe, Orly Taitz, Linda Jordan, Danae, Debbie Schlussel and many others are working on this. This should be viral on the Internet. Where are our Tea Party Representatives on this? Where is Trump on this? What about your representative and senator?
If there has been an official serious response from the left on Obama failing E-Verify, I sure haven't seen it. If there is, please enlighten me. If not, full bore investigations by Sheriff Joe and others will continue. Hats off to Sheriff Joe! Go get em' Joe!
It still boils down to, "What is He Hiding and Why?" This is not over until the Truth prevails.
Thanks for the ping. I get so discouraged by this continual coverup most of the time that even small cracks in the dam(n) like this one lift my spirits a bit.
If his concerns were real, he wouldn’t have to wait on Joe or anyone. That’s just an excuse.
As a EE and aerospace engineer by education and experience, Stearns is taking the correct, logical stand on the forensic evidence, which ultimately will be scientific and not political...just like the spume on the blue dress! Just as we had to wait for the DNA to come back on the stain, we must wait for Barry's original SSSR form and LFBC documents to be examined.
IMO, any genuine conservative would do exactly what Stearns is doing, i.e. wait for the results of the Arpaio investigation. Arpaio, himself, is waiting for the results of his own incomplete investigation.
From Stearns Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Stearns
“According to his official biography,[2] Stearns was born in Washington, D.C., educated at Woodrow Wilson High School, and later earned a degree in electrical engineering from George Washington University. He is also a member of Gamma Beta Chapter of Theta Tau at GW. He participated in the Air Force Reserve Officer Training Corps at GW and was honored as the Air Force ROTC Distinguished Military Graduate.
“Following graduation, he served four years in the United States Air Force as an aerospace engineer in satellite reconnaissance during the Vietnam War.”
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“despite all evidence to the contrary” There IS no evidence....only evidence of FRAUD!!!! LYING MSM POS!!
There is so much evidence that the president has lied about his birth and other aspects of his personal history, that to NOT be a birther would be wacko.
The huge question now is: What is causing most of the media, including conservative members, to not report or discuss these questions? Is something scaring them?
Right now, today, the AG of AZ would be completely justified in throwing Obama off the AZ Ballot. In fact, it is the man's job.
Any reasonable person would have to concede that there is doubt ... or at least call it "some legitimate concern" ... as to Obama's bona fides. Take him off the ballot. Let him come forward as a PLAINTIFF. Have court-appointed experts examine the documents in question. Win lose or draw, that case would go SCOTUS and we can have our questions answered ... maybe not the way we want ... but we can't run the country this way, as we all can see.
Stearns? Don't know the guy, but he could be playing to the gallery. The AZ AG OTOH, needs no one's permission to do his job of vetting candidate qualifications.
He’s had four long years to do his own investigation.
Lucy’s Ping...............
Important, #24.
This is typical MSM Pravda-style journalism, obviously intended to paint Congressman Stearns as some kind of fool who is out of touch with reality. The truth of the matter is that there is no scientific evidence whatsoever that the BC image which appeared on the WH web site last April was a that of a scanned image of a bona fide document. Rather than Stearns or Sheriff Arpaio, it's these MSM hacks, like the anonymous author(s) of the posted story, who are the purveyors of disinformation on the subject.
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Irony duly noted : )
When the investigators talk about "layers" they are talking about combining different images into one. For a simple example when I sign an image I can sign anywhere on the image, then move the text around until it is where I want it.The text exists in a separate moveable layer until I "merge" or "flatten" the image.
The B.C. forgers were working with different software than is used for photographs but the principles and techniques are related. They did not expect close scrutiny and expert analysis and the careless flaws and errors show.
Erm... is this a pointed reference to me? What I published at Pravda is the simple fact based truth. I could not have published it here in the United States. I have gotten a lot of flack for it, including from the owner of this site. Ironically I face more censorship here on this site than I did at Pravda. Collectively, THIS has my “Irony” meter pegged so hard over the needle broke.
Or purposely left that way. There are some that believe the forger was pointing to Alvin as the director of the forgery with X and smiley face.
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