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GOP Lawmaker Stokes ‘Birther’ Drama (Cliff Stearns, R-FL, awaits Arpaio results)
ABC News ^ | March 20, 2012 | John Parkinson

Posted on 03/21/2012 7:02:58 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

Rep. Cliff Stearns, a senior Republican investigating the White House’s Solyndra energy loan guarantee, told reporters today that he is still, despite all evidence to the contrary, not convinced that President Barack Obama’s birth certificate is valid.

“I am, shall we say, looking at all the evidence,” Stearns, R-Fla., said at the Capitol today, just weeks after he waded back into the debate during a town hall meeting with constituents last month.

Asked if he thinks the president’s birth certificate is authentic, Stearns suggested the issue is not settled for him personally yet, as first reported by the Hill and Roll Call. Before coming to a conclusion, Stearns says he is awaiting the results of another independent investigation by Maricopa County [Ariz.] Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who claims he has proof the birth certificate is a “computer-generated forgery.”

“We are just going to hold in abeyance a final decision until we hear [an outcome],” Stearns said. “Some of these people seem to have legitimate concerns, so I don’t think it is unreasonable just to see what they have to say.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: birther; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; solyndra
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1 posted on 03/21/2012 7:03:01 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT; Danae
There is a link in the story provided to readers for the AP Arpaio Posse press conference coverage (helpful in case they missed it accidentally on purpose):

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/ariz-officials-revisit-obamas-birth-certificate-15923061

The words debunked are used but at least the coverage is simmering.

2 posted on 03/21/2012 7:06:56 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

“Despite all evidence to the contrary”. I LOVE these guys!


3 posted on 03/21/2012 7:09:25 PM PDT by STJPII
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To: Seizethecarp
“I am, shall we say, looking at all the evidence,” Stearns, R-Fla., said

All we have is one lousy congressman willing to even talk about it and this is all he will say? Anyone with any sense knows it's a fake. But this proof that the issue is going nowhere. This congressman and the rest of Congress can be described as 'useless' and 'hopeless', respectively.

4 posted on 03/21/2012 7:10:31 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Seizethecarp
Bammy's SS cant pass E Verify!

He ergo has not filled out his I-9, and is unemployable!


Indonesian Go Home!

5 posted on 03/21/2012 7:20:48 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Mohammedan law every woman must belong to a man will delay the end of slavery until Islam has ceased)
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To: Seizethecarp

” - - - Stearns says he is awaiting the results of another independent investigation by Maricopa County [Ariz.] Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who claims he has proof the birth certificate is a “computer-generated forgery.”

Thanks for this update.


6 posted on 03/21/2012 7:27:44 PM PDT by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Seizethecarp
Arpaio asks for Obama’s Selective Service card
7 posted on 03/21/2012 7:29:40 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Seizethecarp
What "evidence to the contrary"?

We've heard the unsubstantiated opinions of Obama supporters, nothing more.

8 posted on 03/21/2012 8:30:41 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Graewoulf
You are welcome. Hey, it's only one House member, but that's a start! And he's on an important investigative committee looking in to Solyndra as well.
9 posted on 03/21/2012 9:03:12 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

I agree on both points.

Obama ia a pathetic, incompetent Marxist that has captured the imagination of the Democrats, the Liberal Agenda Media, and those who like good sounding speeches.

The result is a blithering idiot who has no objective supporters.

The key is to create doubt in the minds of his supporters.

I am in favor of a multi-pronged campaign on a variety of topics so defense eventually shows the weakness that can be pursued to maximum effect. (Similar to the way a pack of us Graewoulves weed out the weaklings in a herd).

Ping me if you would on this or other potential supporters of Arpaio’s pursuit of the truth.


10 posted on 03/21/2012 10:17:02 PM PDT by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Seizethecarp
Why did President Obama have to order a new copy of his Hawaii long form birth certificate in April 2011 in the first place?

Did the President of the United States and Harvard Law School graduate simply lose the original one, the one that his mother walked out with when she was discharged from Kapiolani Hospital a few days after supposedly giving birth to Obama in 1961?

Or, did the dog eat it?

Or, was it in such bad shape that Obama felt that he needed a new one?

If the original 1961 was in such bad condition, why not show that damaged copy to reporters at the April 27, 2011 press conference just before he showed the reporters the new copy?

If President Obama simply lost the birth certificate that he talks about in one of his books, then I wonder how long ago he lost it, because then Senator Obama ordered a short form certificate in June 2007.

Also, I'm wondering why President Obama ordered a short form in 2007 and then turned around 4 years later in April 2011 and ordered a long form birth certificate, because---I think it is safe to say---most people order a new birth certificate only when they lose the one they had.

That is, it looks to me like the President of the United States and Harvard Law School graduate, Obama, lost his Hawaii long form birth certificate before or during 2007, or else why would he find it necessary to order a less-detailed short form in June 2007 and a long, more-detailed form in April 2011?

11 posted on 03/22/2012 4:00:30 AM PDT by john mirse
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I wonder if Obama is paying Joe a “special” visit sometime soon, after all he is out in the SW on a campaign trail.


12 posted on 03/22/2012 4:03:04 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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Rep. Cliff Stearns, a senior Republican investigating the White House’s Solyndra energy loan guarantee, told reporters today that he is still, despite all evidence to the contrary, not convinced that President Barack Obama’s birth certificate is valid.

So??.....ABC?....Where is this compelling evidence to the contrary? The forgeries? Internet images of newspaper baby announcements? Take that to the DMV and see how it gets you.

13 posted on 03/22/2012 4:34:51 AM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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Cantor says he has ‘full confidence’ in Stearns despite 'birther' flap Whoooooo! Is this sign or what?

“I think Cliff Stearns does a good job with the chairmanship of his subcommittee,” Cantor told The Hill in the Capitol Wednesday. “He has my full confidence.”

Cantor was responding to a question about whether it's appropriate to have someone who has questioned Obama's birth certificate leading a probe of the White House.

14 posted on 03/22/2012 6:00:34 AM PDT by GregNH (>>>>>I am SO ready to join a brigade of pickup trucks to surround DC<<<<<)
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“Cantor says he has ‘full confidence’ in Stearns despite ‘birther’ flap Whoooooo! Is this sign or what?”

This is a great sign because a top member of the GOP elite is breaking free from the Alinski-style eligibility-suppression efforts of Obots and GOP elite alike.

Shunning and banning is supposed to be visited on any person who utters sympathy for “birther” claims against Barry because “birthers” have been relentlessly equated with “racists” and “kooks.”

At a minimum Cantor has affirmed Stearns’ position of awaiting the results of Arpaio’s investigation as being a respectable position.

Nixon wasn't driven from office by a SCOTUS ruling or by indictment, but rather by the prospect of a future SCOTUS ruling and future indictment compounded by a conviction in the court of public opinion.

Arpaio’s little posse “snowball” could gather momentum rolling down hill and turn into an avalanche!

IMO the near total suppression of MSM coverage of the posse charges of fraud and forgery could be due to a secret presidential directive deeming eligibility challenges to be a “threat to national security in time of war” especially with the Iran situation about to blow up. Media outlets aiding and abetting eligibility challenges could be subject to having their broadcast licenses pulled and executives could be subject to arrest and detention in secret.

I wouldn't put it past Holder to draft something like that or past Barry to sign it, of course.

15 posted on 03/22/2012 11:50:08 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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Lord Monckton: ‘I’m no birther,’ but Obama birth certificate ‘plainly a forgery’

This is great! He digs his heels in on the Dennis Miller show!

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“I don’t know whether he is Kenyan or not,” Monckton said. “The point is that if I were you, I would want to make absolutely sure that he was born here before allowing him to be elected. And the birth certificate that he put up on that website, I don’t know where he was born. But I do know that birth certificate isn’t genuine.”

16 posted on 03/22/2012 2:42:41 PM PDT by GregNH (>>>>>I am SO ready to join a brigade of pickup trucks to surround DC<<<<<)
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To: Seizethecarp; Kenny Bunk; Danae; LucyT
Lord Monckton: ‘I’m no birther,’ but Obama birth certificate ‘plainly a forgery’

This is great! He digs his heels in on the Dennis Miller show!

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“I don’t know whether he is Kenyan or not,” Monckton said. “The point is that if I were you, I would want to make absolutely sure that he was born here before allowing him to be elected. And the birth certificate that he put up on that website, I don’t know where he was born. But I do know that birth certificate isn’t genuine.”

17 posted on 03/22/2012 2:43:27 PM PDT by GregNH (>>>>>I am SO ready to join a brigade of pickup trucks to surround DC<<<<<)
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To: plain talk

Look at it as one more small crack in the dike. Even small cracks with the force of so much water behind them mean it going to break.


18 posted on 03/22/2012 7:01:55 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: plain talk
" But this is proof that the issue is going nowhere. This congressman and the rest of Congress can be described as 'useless' and 'hopeless', respectively. "

I think it is proof the dam is cracking.

19 posted on 03/22/2012 7:17:26 PM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Seizethecarp; GregNH; Kenny Bunk; Danae; LucyT
This is a great sign because a top member of the GOP elite is breaking free from the Alinski-style eligibility-suppression efforts of Obots and GOP elite alike.

Pray for Sheriff Joe and his posse, but also pray for Cantor.

20 posted on 03/22/2012 7:45:26 PM PDT by thecodont
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