Posted on 10/20/2011 6:43:41 AM PDT by dangus
So now the Romney or Perry supporters are desperately trying to portray Herman Cain as soft on the issue of abortion, trying to twist his words out of context to sound as if he said the exact opposite of what he said. Here's the transcript:
MORGAN: Abortion. What's your view of abortion?So Morgan asks whether Cain would want his daughters to RAISE a child born out of rape and incest as their own. Cain replies that's a decision for the family to make. That's where the sick bastards who are trying to bring Cain down leap into action, making it seem like the question was whether Cain would want them to carry the baby to term:CAIN: I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances. And here's why --
MORGAN: No circumstances?
CAIN: No circumstances.
MORGAN: Because many of your fellow candidates -- some of them qualify that.
CAIN: They qualify but --
MORGAN: Rape and incest.
CAIN: Rape and incest.
Cain is specifically rejecting exceptions to anti-abortion laws that other candidates have put forth allowing abortion in cases of rape and incest.
MORGAN: Are you honestly saying -- again, it's a tricky question, I know.See, out of context it seems like Cain is saying that government shouldn't make the decision to keep or abort the baby. But that's NOT what Morgan asked. It seems that may be what Morgan MEANT to ask, but Cain corrects him that he's mixing up issues.CAIN: Ask the tricky question.
MORGAN: But you've had children, grandchildren. If one of your female children, grand children was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own?
CAIN: You're mixing two things here, Piers?
MORGAN: Why?
CAIN: You're mixing --
MORGAN: That's what it comes down to.
CAIN: No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make.
I'm all for conservatives carefully scrutinizing candidates. I've posted some very harsh material about Perry's opposition to allowing Mexican-American kids learn in English, his lies about the Gardasil case, his opposition to building the border fence, his opposition to E-Verify, his support of Al Gore, his endorsement of HillaryCare, etc. But this making up smears and lies which directly contradict a candidates's words has to stop.
Doesn’t really matter what they say. I’m not voting for Mitt Perry.
I fully expect lies and sleeze from liberals.
I will not tolerate it from conservatives.
Needs to be repeated.
If we don’t put the rapist to death, why do we put the baby to death?
Herman Cain CAN’T ban abortion in cases of rape and incest....
Because when it comes to abortion, we are just crazy, mixed up. And that is because, as a culture, convenience is a reason to be illogical.
My view.
From the tone of questioning, I wouldn’t put it past them to edit the interview to make it seem like Cain was referring to abortion in general when he said it was a family decision. It’s clearly not what he said in the debate.
Thank-you so much for clarifying Cain’s statements! I hadn’t seen the interview myself and was a little concerned as to what he’d said.
Wow! That’s so close to the Muslim practice of killing the victim of rape! I’ve always been against abortion, but I’d never put it in those terms!
Herman Cain is the real deal. Ricky and Mittens should get a room.
This is a complete non-issue.
Even if Cain became Pres and jumped up and down screaming to ban all abortion, there’s no way a noodly Congress would go for it.
He can’t ban any abortion, but he can surely support banning it, which he does.
—READ THE TRANSCRIPT: Herman Cain would ban abortion, including in cases of rape and incest—
One can only hope. But I don’t think the president has that power.
On a related note, a baby who is the result of rape or incest is no more guilty than any other baby. Anyone that opposes abortion except for these cases is opposing it for the wrong reasons.
ABC chimes in, of course: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/is-herman-cain-pro-choice/
It is? Rapists are the victim of rape?
I’ve always been against abortion, but I’d never put it in those terms!
What other way is there of putting it? It's not the baby's fault its mother got raped. Why put it to death. If someone should die, why not the rapist?
He’s saying he’s personally against it but doesn’t think the govt should interfere in extreme conditions.
Sounds ok by me.
Looks to me like he’s got the Chris Christie and usual “pro-choice” rationale: he’s personally against it in all cases, but he doesn’t think the government should make the decision in any cases.
His other major social position is, to me, bizarre and not credible: he thinks that homosexuality in orientation—not specifically action—is a choice. That that’s his “opinion” and you are entitled to your “opinion”.
I really think we’re in tough shape with our choices, as there is no way I want Romney or Perry.
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