Posted on 05/10/2010 7:18:43 PM PDT by pissant
Chris Nelson, who's retiring after two terms as South Dakota's secretary of state to challenge Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.), gets asked by Kevin Woster whether he believes President Obama is a citizen of the United States. Nelson doesn't know.
[M]eeting the constitutional qualifications to be President is a very important issue. If President Obama isn’t constitutionally qualified, it would be the biggest scam ever perpetuated on the American people. MANY people contacted me as Secretary of State prior to and after the election asking how Obama could be on our ballot given this controversy. Absent a court finding that he isn’t a natural born citizen, we have to take the certification from the National Democratic Convention at face value.
Of course, most people have taken "at face value" Obama's certification of live birth from Hawaii, released by the campaign in 2008, as proof of where he was born. Interestingly, Nelson's less-well-established primary challengers don't take the bait, and blow off the question.
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He's been avoiding answering that question. I posed it to him again for an online chat he is doing at noon today. We'll see if the lib reporter has the guts to ask it as Nelson & his staff blew me off when I questioned him about it back when it broke that the DNC sent out 2 different certifications.
Why wouldn’t the DNC send a certification including eligibility qualifications to all 50 states?...
I read somewhere that only Hawaii has the requirement of a NBC on their ballot for POTUS.
If that is true, Obama is just trying to limit his exposure to the issue and provide officials in Hawaii cover for saying he is a NBC.
“MANY people contacted me as Secretary of State prior to and after the election asking how Obama could be on our ballot given this controversy. Absent a court finding that he isn’t a natural born citizen, we have to take the certification from the National Democratic Convention at face value.”
If he had done his job, and actually read the certification from the DNC, he would know it never said Obama was eligible under the Constitution; it only stated that he was their candidate.
” Absent a court finding that he isn’t a natural born citizen, we have to take the certification from the National Democratic Convention at face value.”
Why? That’s like asking one manufacturer for an objective evaluation between two competing cars.
It’s nonsense to want to know if our President is legitimate?
thanks for ping, Great title
But, Mr Nelson, you never received that certification from the DNC, did you??? So then just what then did you take at face value????
There are a whole lot of go-along-get-along politicians who will be voted out and conservatives who will be voted in this fall because of this issue. Is that okay with you, or is there something else that worries you????
This was probably the price that had to be paid for the Hawaii government leaders to allow the fraud to go forward. It would be highly interesting for an investigative reporter with coconuts to put Nancy Pelosi on the spot for an explanation about the difference in certification forms she signed.
Yikes. When did they do that?
So if somebody had a will hidden in a safe place in their house it could never be used?
Does that provision “expire” in July of 2013 like their “vexatious requestor” bill?
Flip that over for me. Why send the different one to Hawai’i?
Exactly -- it is no longer just about Obama and Pelosi and Axelgreasy and their henchmen. It's about all of those well paid public servants who raised their hand to take their oath to the Constitution which they are now in de facto denial of.
FWIU, the wording for the Hawaiian one was specifically required by Hawaiian law.
It’s in the Constitution of the DNC and RNC that they will only nominate eligible candidates. That’s why the states take their word. The trouble is that the DNC and RNC are exempt from FOIA requirements so they can be as crooked as they want, accountable to nobody. And making a non-governmental entity responsible for checking eligibility is also stupid because the DNC or RNC couldn’t even see Obama’s documents unless he authorized them. A secretary of state would have legal authority to see the documentation.
IOW, the political parties get the credibility of a governmental agency without havng any of the accountability.
Regardless of what happens with Obama this is one thing that NEEDS to be corrected. My SOS said that the voters are the background check for politicians. But the SCOTUS says we can’t operate on anything but rumors because the official records are nobody’s business. Some kind of “security check”, huh?
But Pelosi perjured herself when she signed Hawaii’s certification saying he is Constitutionally eligible.
I don’t understand why SCOTUS apparently said that nobody within the democrat party can sue the DNC leadership for violating their constitution by nominating an ineligible candidate. If a democrat can’t sue, then who ever CAN hold them accountable to their constitution - the only thing safeguarding the process for most states? On what basis was Berg’s case against the DNC rejected?
It’s so incredibly unbelievable to me that all the judges have ruled that there is nobody who can hold these “leaders” accountable when they break the law and/or perjure themselves.
So..... that may be the only one that was submitted with false info?
Because Hawaii requires a separate statement certifying that the candidate is Constitutionally eligible, rather than simply assuming that the DNC and RNC will follow their own constitutions. Normally the Hawaii Democratic Party certified the Constitutional eligibility in the same document saying that the candidate was the HDP’s duly chosen candidate, which was hand-delivered to the Elections Office about a month after the democratic convention. For Obama, the HDP did everything totally different. They signed their statement the day before Pelosi signed the DNC certifications; the HDP left off the Constitutional eligibility language, signaling the DNC that if Obama was going to get on the Hawaii ballot they would have to be the ones to certify his eligibility because the HDP refused.
The HDP representative I spoke with on the phone refused to say who authorized the change, when, or why. He had some choice words about “birthers” though. lol.
It seems to me that the 49 state SOS's could have and should have handed that back to the DNC and told them that it was incomplete. No new state law is actually required. The only thing necessary is a state SOS who can read to see what is there and what is not there, and a portion of the population of the state looking over their shoulders and helping them with their low reading skills.
By saying that Obama was their candidate, their constitution says that has to mean that the person is eligible.
So the Hawaii certification is the one that Pelosi knowingly perjured herself on. But the others are ones on which she broke the DNC constitution. It would be interesting to see what mechanisms the DNC supposedly has in place to remedy corruption or errors within their ranks. Who is able to hold them accountable? Obviously not the PUMAs, huh?
Joseph Sandler should be sweating bullets. The HDOH has confirmed that nobody from the democratic leadership - including Pelosi, Alice Travers Germond, Howard Dean, and DNC Attorney Joe Sandler - even asked to see Obama’s birth records to verify age and citizenship status.
The DNC says they trust that the state parties check eligibility before certifying the candidates to be placed on the primary ballot in their state. But many states - including Hawaii - don’t require the state party to certify the names for the primary ballot because the balloting is done at a caucus instead (another big push in the DNC on Obama’s behalf - using caucuses rather than ballot voting).
If it was true that the DNC trusts the state parties to check eligibility, then it should have been HUGE that the state party from where Obama was allegedly born - which received legal guidance from an attorney who has probably seen Obama’s birth records because he filed Ann Dunham’s divorce from Soetoro - refused to certify his Constitutional eligibility at the first point they would ever have been required to do so.
Joe Sandler has some heavy-duty explaining to do. He and Pelosi should be sharing a room behind bars.
Simple questions that deserve straight answers. I am not a “birther,” but rather a person who would like to know what those answers are. Yet, to the libtard dims and media that simple desire makes me a birther in their minds.
But then again, they are such little minds.
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